Scott Walker "Bish Bosch"

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That was an exhausting and fast-moving 10 minutes. Whoosh.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 8 November 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

AWESOME

jed_, Thursday, 8 November 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

Love it. Great video too. Though sitting in the dark and letting the music paint its nightmare-scape in yr brain is still the only way to listen to latter-day Scott IMO.

circa1916, Thursday, 8 November 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

i think "epizootics" is my single of the year.

lunar madness (get bent), Thursday, 8 November 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

I am saving this for tonight right before I go to bed

silverfish, Thursday, 8 November 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

This is great.

my conclusion is that if it wasnt a Scott Walker album - no one would give a shit imo

This is true inasmuch Walker is a huge name, and most people making this sort of music don't get the attention they deserve. Hell, the beginning (before the unmistakable voice kicks in, obviously) sounds kind of like Volcano the Bear. Nobody really gives a shit about them, but they're one of the best bands out there. So... yeah, maybe.

emil.y, Thursday, 8 November 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

I can't imagine anyone would make this album other than Walker, so the premise is kind of built to break.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 November 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

i think "epizootics" is my single of the year.

"You could easily picture this in the current top ten"

jed_, Thursday, 8 November 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

xxpost also, no one wanted to talk about Tilt at all for like 8 years after it came out. Believe me, I tried.

this update fixes the following known sugs (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 8 November 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

Don't think this is true, in the UK at least. It got quite a bit of coverage, including more mainstream stuff like Newsnight. Hell, it even made the charts!

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 8 November 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah I can only speak to the US part. People were excited about rediscovering the 60s albums but Tilt was unwanted evidence for quite awhile.

this update fixes the following known sugs (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 8 November 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link

I remember they invited a fair few celebrity Scott fans to the debut play-out of 'Tilt', and they ran out. (Marc Almond, yep)

Mark G, Thursday, 8 November 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link

Possibly told the story here before, but when I bought Tilt the dude behind the counter (who knew me!) asked repeatedly if I knew what it was like before letting me buy it. IT'S AWESOME, DUDE. LET ME GIVE YOU MY MONEY.

emil.y, Thursday, 8 November 2012 23:24 (eleven years ago) link

ya bish bosch

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 9 November 2012 00:33 (eleven years ago) link

woah

silverfish, Friday, 9 November 2012 02:45 (eleven years ago) link

That video is outstanding.

doug watson, Friday, 9 November 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link

Not so much its Scott Walker, rather its that species who had a chart hit and now are doing this thing which won't get any wide attention but more than your neighbourhood aargh avant outfit (much of this began with the likes of Eno, then Robert Wyatt, etc.) Something that is marvelled at more than it should be.

There's nothing too novel about that, nor this track - lots of his macabre cabaret. Its ok, will be praised for being different and so on, don't think its moving far enough sideways from The Drift (as that was from Tilt).

Might give the record a listen though.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 9 November 2012 10:50 (eleven years ago) link

I disagree about the lack of novelty -- this kind of music doesn't usually attempt to swing that hard, and Walker's emphasis of the swing rhythm is obviously tied to the lyrics in an important way, and that's absolutely something he does that nobody else does much.

He also sings the hell out of this song -- once you adjust your ears and realize it's extreme crooning more than failed bel canto you realize how very flexible that voice is, on this track much more than anything on Tilt or the Drift.

Three Word Username, Friday, 9 November 2012 11:31 (eleven years ago) link

My abiding feelings about his music since Tilt is that it really must be so much fun to assemble these tracks and put it all together in the studio.

music of the squares (MaresNest), Friday, 9 November 2012 11:53 (eleven years ago) link

Check out the documentary about the recording of the previous album - there's a bit where they build a huge wooden box in the studio just to get a 'thumping a huge wooden box' sound.

Huey Lewisies & The Newsie-Wewsies (snoball), Friday, 9 November 2012 12:05 (eleven years ago) link

yaaay this is terrific and fun

polish your turds for beer and hugs (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 9 November 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

TWU otm

polish your turds for beer and hugs (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 9 November 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, so 4AD. Gotta get!! Perfect for winter nights.

This album is neither as radical nor as harrowing as "Tilt" or "The Drift." Like I said earlier, a whole lot of odd guitar riffage scattered throughout, which I don't recall hearing before.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 November 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

I like what seems to me to be the increased accessibility.

dan selzer, Friday, 9 November 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

this sounds way different than the last two albums. the new song. doesn't remind me at all of the drift.

scott seward, Friday, 9 November 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link

the creepycrawly david lynch vibe is similar but the way it comes together sounds very different to me.

scott seward, Friday, 9 November 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

wonder if scott is a jandek fan. i'm just glad these albums exist. i don't play tilt or the drift much but i like knowing they are out there in the world.

scott seward, Friday, 9 November 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

i play Tilt a lot (probably too much). The Drift I'm not keen on but "Clara" is absolutely my favourite "song" Scott ever made. What a thing that is! really!

but Julio on here, just a post on ILX, gave The Drift the best and most honest review it ever had.

jed_, Saturday, 10 November 2012 00:25 (eleven years ago) link

i reviewed the drift for decibel magazine. which is a metal magazine. i thought metal fans would like it. i was happy that my editor let me review it. i don't think it's online. came out pretty good.

scott seward, Saturday, 10 November 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

well, The Drift is a heavy, heavy album. i think a lot of people attuned to the methodology behind some of the more interesting metal artists would at least appreciate it.

charlie h, Saturday, 10 November 2012 02:55 (eleven years ago) link

Hey, if someone else is doing this thing as well as Scott Walker, please point me to those records.

circa1916, Saturday, 10 November 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link

xpost Opeth dude said The Drift was one of the biggest influences on the Watershed album.

this update fixes the following known sugs (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 10 November 2012 02:59 (eleven years ago) link

circa 1916, yeah i don't think anyone does Drift-style music with anywhere near the same intensity or effectiveness as Scott Walker, particularly given that his sound and approach are made up of so many strikingly unique constituents. that said, i was listening to Origin's Hesitation by Fushitsusha the other day and noticed that that album share's SW's flair for creating tension and an all-round discomposure through its excessive and unpredictable application of silences.

Jon, yeah i remember reading about the SW influence on Opeth's music. it seems kind of strange, given that Watershed still strikes me after close listening as quite a tepid, wishy-washy album overall. maybe it shares The Drift's tendency to hop all over the place, but even in that regard, SW has a better handle on creating a uniform and encompassing atmosphere that holds firm through the album's various detours.

charlie h, Saturday, 10 November 2012 03:24 (eleven years ago) link

(jed tx for the kind words..)

I think it was a fairly, yes, easy-ish assemble of horn -- some abrasive, thers not -- and gtr sounds. I just found a settling down to the strange world of Scott Walker that isn't really strange.

But I'll see how it'll work with the rest of the record. Feeling anxious as The Drift was a big deal for me..

charlie h - that's an interestng leap to Origin's Hesitation. That's Fushitsusha's most panned alb bcz they weren't doing what they were meant to.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 November 2012 12:41 (eleven years ago) link

are any of you guys fans of this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV8bOaxDMJI&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkiOnPNFH-o&feature=related

scott seward, Saturday, 10 November 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link

i ask cuz THAT guy ghedalia tazartes has a new album out with some other guys credited to REINES D' ANGLETERRE on bo weavil and its really good and strange and reminds me a little teeny bit of SW at times. but just glimmers of it. the vibe. they are different things. but in answer to who are some of the people making records like this...

scott seward, Saturday, 10 November 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

anyway, i highly recommend the new album on bo weavil. called GLOBE ET DYNASTIE.

scott seward, Saturday, 10 November 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

and jon voight as the general...

scott seward, Saturday, 10 November 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

oops rong thread...

scott seward, Saturday, 10 November 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link

Hahah I'd LOVE to hear Jon Voight on a Tazartes OR a Walker album.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 November 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

fiy: spotify took down the two new tracks.

lunar madness (get bent), Sunday, 11 November 2012 02:23 (eleven years ago) link

FYI

lunar madness (get bent), Sunday, 11 November 2012 02:23 (eleven years ago) link

I have to go to bed now an that brass loop from epizootics! is going round an round

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Sunday, 11 November 2012 03:25 (eleven years ago) link

*and - stupid iPhone

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Sunday, 11 November 2012 09:50 (eleven years ago) link

I will look up that Julio post. I've only listened to "The Drift" five times or so. I think I posted something once about how it's not a record that needs to be listened to that often.

On a nerd note I was really surprised to read "this is an analog recording" on the liner notes of "The Drift", as if it was all recorded to tape? I don't believe it, there is no hiss on that recording and there are many, many nearly-silent sound sources

brine? (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 11 November 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

I read the same thing about The Drift, and I seem to recall a brief shot or two of analog tape during the studio bits in 30th Century Man. But yeah, a friend of mine who's a huge Scottophile remarked on first hearing, "Ugh, why did he have to use Pro Tools?"

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 11 November 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

We have a Studer 2-inch 24-track deck here in our studio, and, when freshly calibrated and demagnetized, it is quite incredibly clean sounding. In tandem with external noise gates and noise reduction devices there's little to no perceptible hiss, even at high volume - a lot of this depends on the mixing board and outboard devices as well. And virgin tape too. Scott, I assume, is working in very high-end studios which are much better equipped, with better outboard and presumably very skilled engineers, so whatever little surface noise survived the mixing process could easily be killed in the mastering stage. It's not surprising that it all sounds so clean with the kind of resources he's working with, though it also wouldn't surprise me if there's some digital in there too.

alb indys, Sunday, 11 November 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

i'm pretty sure it was assembled digitally. it certainly sounds like it was. i dunno what pro tools is but it's a badly pieced together record imo. it sounds so computery.

jed_, Sunday, 11 November 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

they're not really comparable but the new cat power album was put together on pro tools and it sounds terrible. i mean there are a few good songs on it but even they sound like shit. it's like there's no reality to it.

jed_, Sunday, 11 November 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link


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