Bitches Brew Poll

http://jazzblog.scena.org/2010_04_01_archive.html

Can't believe John McL got no votes

underdone poll for this monumentally perfect record

all great records should get that header on the cover: 'directions in music by'

Going back into a deep fusion kick listening to those early records by Weather Report and Herbie Hancock's Headhunters; it's kind of a shame that the economics of jazz in the pop world wasn't such that somehow those key players could have kept working together. I'd love to hear what Miles Davis trumpet would have fit in on the first couple of Weather Report records, as they really did take up that spacey feel from Bitches Brew and In A Silent Way. Conversely it's not hard to imagine what Herbie, Mike Clark and Paul Jackson would have sound underneath one of Miles 70s funk groups.

Them's the breaks, never happened.

this result is as lopsided and rong as 'rated x' winning the 'get up with it' poll

it's kind of a shame that the economics of jazz in the pop world wasn't such that somehow those key players could have kept working together. I'd love to hear what Miles Davis trumpet would have fit in on the first couple of Weather Report records

The weird thing is (in retrospect, maybe not at the time), Hancock and Weather Report were handily outselling (and outdrawing -- Miles was Herbie's opening act at least once in the 70s) Miles. Miles playing with Weather Report would no doubt have been a thrill for the members of Weather Report, but it might not necessarily have been a selling point for WR's fans.

There's more "rong" in this thread but it got worked out in the end.

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thread needs a teo to do some splicing, work all the best takes into an underrecognized collaboration between him and us

Thread made the mistake of releasing the unedited masters first.

part twoNINE was. In particular.

Pharaoh's Dance got robbed big-time here.

rated x didn't win the get up with it poll

I was so mad at my ipod today for not having Bitches Brew on it.

FWIW, I like the Complete Bitches Brew Sessions more than the album. Some great tracks on there that didn't make the final.

i have probably listened to 'feio' only one time in the entire number of years i have had that set

Feio is great

Donald Fagen, co-founder of Steely Dan, called the album "essentially just a big trash-out for Miles" in 2007: "To me it was just silly, and out of tune, and bad. I couldn't listen to it. It sounded like Davis was trying for a funk record, and just picked the wrong guys. They didn't understand how to play funk. They weren't steady enough."[21]

not enough guys named Skunk

i've read fagen knocking fusion in general, which seems odd.

kind of feel like part of the album's strength is that the players "didn't understand how to play funk"

what does fagen have to say about OTC i wonder

BB is the opposite of sure-footed and slick, and Fagen not liking it tells me pretty much everything I need to know about Steely Dan. Except I already knew it.

Yeah I don't know much about Steely Dan at all really, but I just thought this was odd and funny. And wrong.

Fagen also despised the new music (which is maybe less surprising than him not digging BB); I seem to recall him saying snarky shit about Sun Ra.

I'm not convinced that Steely Dan ever "understood how to play funk"

well they certainly hired people who did.

People who played on Bitches Brew, even.

i mean, it would be pretty disappointing and out-of-character if Steely Dan was really into Bitches Brew.

released 50 years ago yesterday

still sounds like 50 years tomorrow