POSSE! YOU KEEP THE SPIRIT ALIVE! It's the 1990s ELECTRONIC ALBUMS poll results!

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But more than half of the people who voted for albums voted for it, so clearly it's well-loved.

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Tuomas, Friday, 2 November 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

It is the 90s poll, fitting that an exciting and adventurous run should end with tedious navel-gazing.

hot slag (lukas), Friday, 2 November 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

Why so much hate for BoC? It's a gorgeous record. Have people forgotten how unique and fresh it sounded at the time?

Clarke B., Friday, 2 November 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

It was like the antidote to the "tedious navel-gazing" happening in "IDM" at the time.

Clarke B., Friday, 2 November 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

great work on pulling quotes throughout the poll btw Tuomas

sug night (sic), Friday, 2 November 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

For those of you who're interested, here are the full album results:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiVOdCUDZoLxdDFJNU1nZzRlWUZ1TWJuS25MSVJwQ1E

Tuomas, Friday, 2 November 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

ok that was some hyperbole, it's a good album, but you know what i mean. fucking IN SIDES! FREQUENCIES! HOMEWORK! and then this solipsistic blahness. it did sound fresh at the time but i swear to god if i hear another wistful downtempo album

hot slag (lukas), Friday, 2 November 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

i prefer zooropa

dsb, Friday, 2 November 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

ok not really but i like "lemon"

dsb, Friday, 2 November 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

How in God's taint did The Quest finish so low?

Clarke B., Friday, 2 November 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

Being out of print for years might have something to do with it? I've wanted to get it for a long time, but I don't want to pay 50 euros for it.

Tuomas, Friday, 2 November 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

at a guess, because you're the only person who voted for it

sug night (sic), Friday, 2 November 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

my theory is that if more people had voted for it, it might have ended up higher

sug night (sic), Friday, 2 November 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

Absolutely amazed that people still love the Orb that much. Next to any of the Orbital, Underworld or Chems albums it feels like a relic to me.

Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 2 November 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

Awww, only two votes for DJ DB's History Of Our World Part 1, but they were both #1 votes. Only album I voted for, as the singles side of the poll is what interests me, but I thought it had a slightly higher standing on ILM.

etc, Friday, 2 November 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

Thankfully Clone is now compiling early, hard-to-find Drexciya material, though the compilation format is a bit weird (so far they've released two comps, which come in oversized digipaks, and which both have only 45 to 50 minutes of music).

Tuomas, Friday, 2 November 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

ok that was some hyperbole, it's a good album, but you know what i mean. fucking IN SIDES! FREQUENCIES! HOMEWORK! and then this solipsistic blahness. it did sound fresh at the time but i swear to god if i hear another wistful downtempo album

― hot slag (lukas), Friday, November 2, 2012 5:40 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Wistful" is not the first word that comes to mind with that record for me. For me, it feels like an exploration of bygone sounds, but in a way that highlights their strangeness, underlines the distance between then and now, and experiences the past as this sort of alien, almost queasiness-inducing thing. It's nostalgia as a trip, sure, but not always a happy one.

Clarke B., Friday, 2 November 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

at a guess, because you're the only person who voted for it

― sug night (sic), Friday, November 2, 2012 5:45 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ha, point taken (though I missed the poll entirely). It's a shame their stuff has been so hard to come by for so long.

Clarke B., Friday, 2 November 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

xxxp I still love The Orb, Chems or Orbital not so much. they are all relics though.

dsb, Friday, 2 November 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

Well "relic" is subjective. Not sure how you can say they all are, unless you think all dance music ages badly.

Nice to see Flux Trax 2 in there. The first volume isn't an especially coherent compilation but it's an incredible seection of 90s greats, many of which I expect to see in the tracks poll:

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Flux-Trax/release/42195

Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 2 November 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

1 vote for Hongkong and none for Biokinetics? Regretting not voting now.

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 2 November 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

for everyone saying so-and-so did the same thing BoC did 20, 30 years before, wtf are you listening to because i want it

happy little (clouds), Friday, 2 November 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

1 vote for Hongkong and none for Biokinetics? Regretting not voting now.

― a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Friday, November 2, 2012 5:54 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's what I'm screaming... For me, those records (and The Quest) are TOTALLY canonical. It makes me wonder if a lot of folks who weren't around for them at the time actually haven't ever heard that prime-era Basic Channel and Chain Reaction stuff?

Clarke B., Friday, 2 November 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

The font is terrible, but the MHTRTC cover image is one of the most perfect evocations of an album's contents in my library.

in the Land of the Yik Yak (Sanpaku), Friday, 2 November 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

I'll note, as others surely have, that *the faces are bleached out* on it, too. That's not exactly "wistful"...

Clarke B., Friday, 2 November 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

And the title is incredible, too.

Clarke B., Friday, 2 November 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

monolake, drexciya, robert hood, maurizio, model 500...

i refrained from voting b/c i thought i didn't know my 90's shit, expected the results to school me. this list blows.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 2 November 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

"or everyone saying so-and-so did the same thing BoC did 20, 30 years before"

This is almost never true about anything. There's one internet commenter who absolutely insists that there's nothing on Kid A that Can didn't do first.

Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 2 November 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

Which Model 500? Deep Space is overrated imo.

millmeister, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

Well "relic" is subjective. Not sure how you can say they all are, unless you think all dance music ages badly. Dance music ages great!, it has very pronounced cyclical returns, present in lots of forms of culture but especially pronounced in dance music, see the recent returns to organ led skipping garage house. wether the current vogue well get back around to dubby slightly cheesy tripped out ambient or rock/techno hybrids with liam galleger singing over top first is your guess as good as mine. sorry i actually do like the chems but those first two Orb albums a very nostalgic for me.

dsb, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

I was expecting Geogaddi to poll above Mhtr. In the end it didn't even appear! (fine by me by the way)

millmeister, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

Out of all the various genre/decade polls run on ILM, this is the one where I've been familiar with the highest percentage of the albums in the countdown. There are a lot of records here that really opened my ears to various different sounds, not just the ones I voted for either. Something like In Sides... I was obsessed with that when I was 16, I'd heard nothing else like it. BoC wasn't my #1 choice but I'm happy with it winning.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

I'm struck by just how little critical revision of the 90s consensus has occured so far - this list could have been picked from any number of contemporaneous review sites, and there really isn't a single surprise (aside from the St. Etienne showing by indie diehards).

in the Land of the Yik Yak (Sanpaku), Friday, 2 November 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

Geogaddi came out in 2002.

Tuomas, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

Ah, good point.

millmeister, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

are you happy with the results, tuomas?

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

I think most of the critical revisionism of 90s dance - to the extent it has been going on - has been focused on areas which are more tracks-focused than albums-focused.

This list seems depressingly boring to me but I suppose that was inevitable.

Tim F, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

are you happy with the results, tuomas?

There are some good albums there, no doubt. But like I said a while ago, I'm surprised how very, very Brit-centric the list is: 41 out of the top 50 albums come from the UK. As someone who was listening to a lot of German techno in the 90s, I'm a bit disappointed it's represented by only three albums, all of which may be there because the artists behind them (Voigt, Burger, Basic Channel) became more hip in the 00s than they were in the 90s. (They're all great albums though, don't get me wrong.) My number 1 album (Air Liquide's Nephology) is German, and no one else voted for it... :( An equal disappointment is that all of American dance music is represented by Carl Craig alone.

Tuomas, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

I'm sure there were some interesting / original choices in people's lists. It's just when you put them all together, more often than not, the old favourites get hashed out.

millmeister, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

I still listen to the Orb today, though Orbus Terrarum is my pick for the one that held up the best

frogbs, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

i refrained from voting b/c i thought i didn't know my 90's shit, expected the results to school me. this list blows.

yea i am starting to wish i voted regardless of my level of expertise. i understand that it'd be annoying to split hairs over various strains of '90s electronic stuff but this sorta feels pointless

seems like ambient/idm stuff is pretty unavoidable in the general '90s canon, we all have heard or know that we don't want to hear those albums by now, but dance stuff is still p underrepresented outside of obvious stuff like daft punk/prodigy/basement jaxx. tho tim is otm about 90s dance being more about tracks than albums

happy to see landcruising/paperclip people/burger/ink show up. more annoyed than ever at ilx's undying love for autechre

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Friday, 2 November 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

Pansoul by Motorbass is also better than 90% of this list...

Clarke B., Friday, 2 November 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

LOL

the late great, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

It's the 'old favourites' that didn't get hashed out because the spaces were taken by lesser material that surprises me though.

Like, 'A Silent Introduction' only managed 64 but every single Autechre and Aphex Twin-related album of the 90s makes the top 60.

'A Silent Introduction' is substantially more canonical/revered in general than 'Chiastic Slide' (widely considered to be the least of Ae's 90s albums).

So the implication is that there's a bit of a structural bias in this poll towards IDM and UK album dance that lifts even lesser lights, rather than just populism/the wisdom of crowds at work.

Blech 2 beating The Joint is another example - I'd expect Artificial Intelligence or Northern Exposure or Logical Progression to, but in what world apart from a Warp bubble is Blech 2 even particularly remembered?

Of course it's wrong to read too deeply into these results given that Blech 2, say, only got 3 votes.

Tim F, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

x-post

Motorbass is a phenomenal record! How many albums were people allowed to vote for? I want to create a list of my own just for fun.

Clarke B., Friday, 2 November 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link

An equal disappointment is that all of American dance music is represented by Carl Craig alone.

DJ Shadow is from California.

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Friday, 2 November 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

but isn't dance music

zvookster, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

how many ballots were received for this?

zvookster, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

24 for the album vote.

Tim F, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

I'm lolling at the results of polling, not at motorbass

the late great, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link


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