I am beginning to become scared that Romney/Ryan will win. Can smart people please post here and say reassuring things to convince me that he won't?

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i'm not american and i am starting to be quite nervous about this.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

You have my personal promise that Romney will not win.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

recent polls out today aren't looking too good for obama

all mods con (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

lol whatever

beef richards (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

be a man and post a link or stfu

xpost

beef richards (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

but that's from twelve whole hours ago so you never know

goole, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

in the last 12 hours three undecideds in Idaho moved into the Romney camp.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

haha you guys aren't any fun

all mods con (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

I got some applesauce for ya, baby.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

it's been almost three weeks since Romney gave an interview and more than a month since he answered a single question from the reporters that travel with him. He can't, obviously. He can't answer questions about his auto industry claims and now he can't answer about FEMA either.

is this getting traction in the MSM/ cable news? seems like a p big deal to me if Romney won't answer questions from the reporters traveling with him

it's smdh time in America (will), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

Staging donations?

Empty-handed supporters pled for entrance, with one woman asking, “What if we dropped off our donations up front?”

The volunteer gestured toward a pile of groceries conveniently stacked near the candidate. “Just grab something,” he said.

Two teenage boys retrieved a jar of peanut butter each, and got in line. When it was their turn, they handed their “donations” to Romney. He took them, smiled, and offered an earnest “Thank you.”

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

keeping it classy

goatee-framed sphincter-mouth (jjjusten), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

are all these stories about Romney's staged events just popping up on the online newsources, or are they getting reported on in any of the big msm outlets?

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

Saw a bit on NBC news last night on the Romney Storm Related Event. No mention whatsoever of the Red Cross' thanks-but-no-thanks response to food donations.

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

The big three are too afraid to appear biased these days, even if that means ignoring a whole bunch of stuff that's absolutely true.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

Forget answering questions about the auto industry or taxes or whatever bullshit. Romney still hasn't explained the fundamental operation of his mystery budget plan. His entire secret economic platform hinges on vague promises.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

I was waiting for the Red Cross punchline in that NBC report, but it never came. Beyond being journalistically irresponsible, it also tacitly encouraged people to make donations to the Red Cross that the Red Cross neither needs nor wants.

xp

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

maybe he can deliver the unwanted food to them on the unwanted ships he builds for the navy

goatee-framed sphincter-mouth (jjjusten), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

Haven't kept up today--did Romney get hammered on his FEMA statements from the debate?

clemenza, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

Nate Silver still has Obama up with ~77% to take the electoral college, the only thing that actually matters.

Late game polling that shows dead heats is, IMO, mostly a way for cable news to drum up ratings.

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

Also their probably not polling people who have cast early ballots, which I'd imagine takes out a big chunk of Obama supporters who have already voted for Obama...

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

*they're... the ineffable THEM!

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

this is a lot of bad polls for Romney in a hurry it seems like

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

early voting has been split pretty evenly i think

goole, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

conservatives flipping out at silver/poll aggregation are of course losing it hard, but let me put it in perspective anyway

if i gave you only 70-75% chance of keeping your job past next week, would you not say you were in significant danger of getting canned? i mean, shit. romney's course is uphill but his chances aren't bad at all.

goole, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

A couple weeks ago I saw a stat that said ~80 of early voters were young voters, women, african-americans, latinos or a combination of those demographics... But I guess those were the real early-bird early voters. Still accounted for like 3 million votes.

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

really interested to see what Silver does to the percentage after these polls though

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

if i gave you only 70-75% chance of keeping your job past next week, would you not say you were in significant danger of getting canned?

yes because i understand basic statistics and probability

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha was just gonna say

beef richards (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

i was having trouble forming a response to that

beef richards (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

'job security' for elected officials and everyone else is apples and oranges, h8 when people throw around those analogies as if they're meaningful

push iatee (some dude), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

well right, i was just trying to give that % chance something other than "it must be a huge lie"

goole, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

his chances of winning are pretty bad though

beef richards (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

What are you talking about, Romney has a better chance of winning this than 99.9% of all people ever!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

I started thinking about Silver's 70-30 split in terms of baseball. Or even 75-25; if a lifetime .250 hitter gets a hit, you're not shocked or anything. So low probability, yes (if Silver's right, and I'm sure he is), but Romney winning would be like Curtis Granderson getting a hit, or flipping two consecutive heads.

clemenza, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

Doping might account for recent Romney gains.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

Taking Sides: Mitt Romney or Curtis Granderson

Sug ban (Nicole), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

If Silver moves to 80/20, then we're into Mario Mendoza/Adam Dunn territory, and yes, it's a shock when those guys get a hit.

clemenza, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

oh good – baseball talk!

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah except even great hitters only get a hit 30-35% of the time so really that's not a good comparison.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

Flawed, agreed. Let's not agitate Alfred any further.

clemenza, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

I like thinkign about romney's VORP

iatee, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

baseball averages aren't exactly the same thing as probabilities either

max, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

They vary from year to year--.280 one year, .310 the next--so they're different that way, but as a snapshot, aren't they the same? If a .250 hitter steps to the plate after a large enough sample of at-bats, doesn't he have a 1 in 4 chance of getting a hit?

clemenza, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

2 possible ways to visualize/make intuitive a 70% chance of winning

-> if there were an election every day for ten days, w/ the result every day independent of that of the previous day obama would win 7 days, and romney 3
-> on election day, God rolls a 10-sided die (7 sides obama, 3 sides romney)

flopson, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

Same thing. If Romney wins 3 out of every 10 days, a win on any one day wouldn't be shocking.

clemenza, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

i love that this has taken a baseball turn now.

no, a .250 average doesn't mean that a player has a 1 in 4 chance of getting a hit, because walks don't count toward it, sacrifice flies don't, etc

but the boo boyz are getting to (Z S), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

I like to think of it as 10 parallel scifi universes, stuff happens that makes romney win 3 of them

iatee, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link


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