best 1992 rap album besides The Chronic

no doubt. didn't do that at all here, though?

didn't know we were starting fresh

need to wait til Whiney does that thing he does in every rap thread before calling him out on it, got it

positive k

Diamond D or Showbiz & AG

Diamond D

haha no granny you're supposed to be chill and gracious on the rare occasion that whiney doesn't do that in a rap thread

The singles from a lot of these were amazing, even if the album as a whole was spotty (Da Lench Mob and Das EFX, for example).

I've always felt this way about The Chronic, honestly.

Out of this list I've probably listened to Whut?, Predator, Daily Operation, and Bizarre Ride the most but not sure which one I'd pick. Probably Pharcyde just for nostalgia's sake.

holy crap, i've only maybe heard three of these

voting ganksta nip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PLYbJ7p0Rw

see also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwS77v12GFU

Gang Starr just ahead of Redman.

I've always felt this way about The Chronic, honestly.

I like The Chronic a lot but there are five or six records on this list I enjoy more.

I remember always laughing at the line on Kizz My Black Azz when MC Ren uses his hardest, angriest voice to shout "I'm sick of rappers using live instruments on the stage / SAVE THAT SHIT FOR PARADES"!

looool

i should take the time to point out that the "best album besides" conceit in no way presumes that the excluded album is everyone's favorite, it's just to encourage more interesting results and discussion

Xodus for me, I will probably be the only vote there but I loved that stuff

It's crazy how old most of these albums sound now. The Chronic is the only album that could work as some sort of blueprint still. Unless, of course, Romney wins the election and there's a manichaean funk revival.

well this is the end of the era right - '92 is the year of the Gilbert O'Sullivan lawsuit, and production styles shift over to a less sample-based aesthetic - which Dre was out ahead of, right? or not? heads can correct me but that's my understanding, there's a big shift underway in '92 toward basically making the stuff from scratch instead of building from parts

the law was definitely impacting the music at that point but a pretty huge amount of popular rap was sample-driven up until maybe 1998

like practically all the big producers/production styles drew heavily on samples up until the swizz/timbo/neptunes/mannie fresh era

Pete Rock & Cl Smooth - Mecca and the Soul Brother no contest

btw granmal butthurt, i LOVE the pharcyde, but that doesn't mean some dude wasn't otm

about the urkel part. that's why i love it tho

of the few i have, voting eric b & rakim over das efx

Predator over everything including The Chronic

I remember always laughing at the line on Kizz My Black Azz when MC Ren uses his hardest, angriest voice to shout "I'm sick of rappers using live instruments on the stage / SAVE THAT SHIT FOR PARADES"!

― Walter Galt, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:53 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

mc ren otm

Yeah, I think it has to be The Predator. Not that topicality is the only or best way to judge a hip hop album but it was such a rapid response to the LA riots (as was the Da Lench Mob record) that it screams 1992 to me.

I got a hell of a lot of mileage out of The Goats album at the time. Not sure how well it's aged but I'm voting for that.

I played that a lot too but I think it has aged horribly.

for years i would get The Goats mixed up with Aer0smith and when i first came to ilx found it amusing that people made such a fuss about a guy from a '90s alternative hip hop group posting here

lol

ha haaa

hahahahahaha that

i didn't hear the Goats until a couple years ago, they sounded like hip-hop people who comment on AV Club articles would like...sorta dire

well this is the end of the era right - '92 is the year of the Gilbert O'Sullivan lawsuit, and production styles shift over to a less sample-based aesthetic - which Dre was out ahead of, right? or not? heads can correct me but that's my understanding, there's a big shift underway in '92 toward basically making the stuff from scratch instead of building from parts

― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:13 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the law was definitely impacting the music at that point but a pretty huge amount of popular rap was sample-driven up until maybe 1998

― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:25 AM Bookmark Flag

Yeah, but 88-92 rap had 12 samples in a song whereas 93-98 rap had one or two and maybe a sneaky uncleared one.

Comedy vote for disposable heroes of hiphoprisy (which i actually owned/loved when I was 15)

rev otm - samples still there but for pomo poseurs like myself who got ALOT out of prince paul/hank shocklee sample density this era felt like a definite downturn, there's a reason ppl overreacted to dj shadow. voted pharcyde but immediately wished i'd voted predator instead, a dip from amerikkka and death certificate but that record was huge and had that weird bigger pop impact, feels like the year hip-hop finally truly broke thru completely on radio, maybe some combo of soundscan and 2L2Q flopping.

Predator juuuust ahead of Bizarre Ride, which I expect to be the final result too

true fact: Arrested Development played for free at the reopening of a pub five minutes from my house tonight

(I didn't go)

oh i seriously doubt Cube will get more votes than Pharcyde here

idg why ppl hate on pharcyde good group imo

i don't think anyone said they're not good for what they are, i just like a bunch of these records more

I like Pharcyde better than Predator because there's way to compare it to a much better previous album. Also because it has no "Gangsta Fairytale 2" on it.

oh what, you've never heard Bizarre Ride I The Pharcyde?

I used to have three fourths of these on tape. I heard Das EFX and Redman on baskspin radio the other day and was surprised how nice they sounded through my trucks speakers. Showbiz & A.G's best album didn't come till 97 or 98 with Full Scale. For awhile it seemed like everyone in school was singing Pocket Full Of Stones.

cool school!

Redman, Gang Starr, Das EFX, DJ Quik, Pharcyde ... I have gone for Whut? Thee Album, fuck me what a vintage year and '93 was even better. Not really dug much of Redman post Dare Iz A Darkside, loved bits of Muddy Waters though. I thought The Pharcyde's follow up to Bizarre Ride was very disappointing as well.

I grew up an hour from Port Arthur and an hour and a half from Houston, UGK were huge and the Houston scene. There was a radio station call The Box out of Houston that played local artists before they were known outside of the area. I used to have tapes I recorded from the Box late shows.

lol Bizarre Ride I

I like Pharcyde better than Predator because there's way to compare it to a much better previous album.

(I've said before that) I wasn't down with Death Certificate when I was a kid, the a) homophobia b) racism c) slackness towards women made me take it back to the shop and exchange for something else.

Also because it has no "Gangsta Fairytale 2" on it.

This is a feeble charge to lay against an album that has When Will They Shoot on it, let alone Wicked and Check Yo Self with the OG beat and Good Day (remember how remarkable it was at the time before it became the most-played Cube song ever). Not to mention We Had To Tear This Muthafucka Up and Who Got The Camera and Say Hi and...