the Pete & CL, the Diamond D, and maybe the Redman and the Gang Starr are all peak albums
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 29 October 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
i don't really get The Pharcyde, all the squeaky wacky voices work when it's something like "Ya Mama" but "Passin' Me By" is basically The Love Song of Steven Q. Urkel
― Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
exactly
― croup the color of mayonnaise (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 29 October 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
Some of us aren't as hard as Whiney G Weingarten and some dude
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 29 October 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
I love that dense, tough, clenched funk production you get on the Ice Cube, Paris and Da Lench Mob albums - very '92. It's like Ice Cube's scowl translated into music.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 29 October 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
you should hear the G Rap, basically the same style/production team
― Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 29 October 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
Oh yeah, I forgot that one. I only heard it for the first time this year and it feels utterly essential. Wasn't it the first East Coast album with that sound and outlook?
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 29 October 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
well I think it's the only east coast album produced by DJ Pooh if that's what you mean
― Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 29 October 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
Oh wait, no, I've totally mixed it up with Wanted: Dead or Alive. Ignore me, I have a pounding headache and I'm getting things wrong.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 29 October 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, October 29, 2012 4:41 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's not about it not being gangsta and you know it, c'mon man
― Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
i think it's fair to say it was an east coast gangster album that embraced a synthesis of east coast lyricism with a more west coast style production a full two years before BIG did the same w/ready to die
― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 October 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
dunno if I can cosign that comparison
― Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 29 October 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know what it's about! I get the sense that some people want their rap to be a certain way, have very well-defined boundaries for it, and when someone steps outside those boundaries they cringe.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 29 October 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
AYO RED, GET OFF THAT PUNK SMOOVE SHIT
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Monday, 29 October 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
not really. i'm generally pro-wacky voices in rap! you should be able to criticize an aspect of a record without other people extrapolating that into an assumption that you hate that quality in all records or have some kind of unbending criteria. (xpost)
― Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
nah, you shouldn't, says who
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 29 October 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
cool, good luck expressing opinions about rap that can only be interpreted as a rigidly consistent aesthetic worldview
― Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
aw c'mon i was just joshin. you can't say "eh don't like it...but it's not about x and you know it", and then when I try to guess what it could be get mad about me boxing you in. you're not dogmatic, you appreciate wacky voices, got it.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 29 October 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's no big deal. just thought "Some of us aren't as hard as Whiney G Weingarten and some dude" was a pointless, reductive response to the guys who dared to not be totally in love w/ the Phracyde.
― Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
I like Labcabincalifornia better than Bizarre Ride.
― Luchinski pourin' from the sky, let's get rich (what) (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 29 October 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
I do think that Whiney likes to pretend he's harder than ILX strawman
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 29 October 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
no doubt. didn't do that at all here, though?
― Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
didn't know we were starting fresh
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 29 October 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
need to wait til Whiney does that thing he does in every rap thread before calling him out on it, got it
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 29 October 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
positive k
― sug ones (omar little), Monday, 29 October 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
Diamond D or Showbiz & AG
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 29 October 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
Diamond D
― Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 29 October 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
haha no granny you're supposed to be chill and gracious on the rare occasion that whiney doesn't do that in a rap thread
― Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
The singles from a lot of these were amazing, even if the album as a whole was spotty (Da Lench Mob and Das EFX, for example).
I've always felt this way about The Chronic, honestly.
Out of this list I've probably listened to Whut?, Predator, Daily Operation, and Bizarre Ride the most but not sure which one I'd pick. Probably Pharcyde just for nostalgia's sake.
― joygoat, Monday, 29 October 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link
holy crap, i've only maybe heard three of these
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 01:56 (eleven years ago) link
voting ganksta nip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PLYbJ7p0Rw
― dylannn, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 06:39 (eleven years ago) link
see also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwS77v12GFU
― dylannn, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 06:40 (eleven years ago) link
Gang Starr just ahead of Redman.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 07:34 (eleven years ago) link
I like The Chronic a lot but there are five or six records on this list I enjoy more.
― Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 09:01 (eleven years ago) link
I remember always laughing at the line on Kizz My Black Azz when MC Ren uses his hardest, angriest voice to shout "I'm sick of rappers using live instruments on the stage / SAVE THAT SHIT FOR PARADES"!
― Walter Galt, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 09:53 (eleven years ago) link
looool
― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 10:04 (eleven years ago) link
i should take the time to point out that the "best album besides" conceit in no way presumes that the excluded album is everyone's favorite, it's just to encourage more interesting results and discussion
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 12:24 (eleven years ago) link
Xodus for me, I will probably be the only vote there but I loved that stuff
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 13:02 (eleven years ago) link
It's crazy how old most of these albums sound now. The Chronic is the only album that could work as some sort of blueprint still. Unless, of course, Romney wins the election and there's a manichaean funk revival.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 13:09 (eleven years ago) link
well this is the end of the era right - '92 is the year of the Gilbert O'Sullivan lawsuit, and production styles shift over to a less sample-based aesthetic - which Dre was out ahead of, right? or not? heads can correct me but that's my understanding, there's a big shift underway in '92 toward basically making the stuff from scratch instead of building from parts
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link
the law was definitely impacting the music at that point but a pretty huge amount of popular rap was sample-driven up until maybe 1998
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link
like practically all the big producers/production styles drew heavily on samples up until the swizz/timbo/neptunes/mannie fresh era
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link
Pete Rock & Cl Smooth - Mecca and the Soul Brother no contest
― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link
btw granmal butthurt, i LOVE the pharcyde, but that doesn't mean some dude wasn't otm
― Mr. Zone A (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link
about the urkel part. that's why i love it tho
― Mr. Zone A (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
of the few i have, voting eric b & rakim over das efx
― da croupier, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
Predator over everything including The Chronic
― chow mein kampf (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
― Walter Galt, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:53 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
mc ren otm
― een, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I think it has to be The Predator. Not that topicality is the only or best way to judge a hip hop album but it was such a rapid response to the LA riots (as was the Da Lench Mob record) that it screams 1992 to me.
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
I got a hell of a lot of mileage out of The Goats album at the time. Not sure how well it's aged but I'm voting for that.
― millmeister, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
boom bap bump
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
Predator talk is making me happy I voted for it
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
Ended up voting for Redman.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
"The Big Daddy law is anti-bigot / That means no intol-E-R-A-N-C-E..."
― sug night (sic), Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:16 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is killing me
― croup da color of mayonnaise (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Thursday, 8 November 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
nice turnout!
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Thursday, 8 November 2012 02:14 (eleven years ago) link
results pretty much what I would expect. glad the corny backpacker vote got split lol
― Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 8 November 2012 02:57 (eleven years ago) link
that quik album super underrated. i always forget to vote in these things
― all mods con (k3vin k.), Thursday, 8 November 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link
Yo-Yo – Black Pearl 1
lol who voted for this
― Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 8 November 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
love everyone involved but album really doesn't work
― Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 8 November 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
I'm in the midst of making a 1992 top 25 list and am just curious about how y'all would rank the following albums:
Music To Driveby vs. Black Mafia Life
Daily Operation vs. Mecca and The Soul Brother
― weak willie (longneck), Friday, 16 November 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
MTD >DO >
― Good job, good multiple efforts (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 16 November 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
We're including R&B stuff as well, and it's bloody hard. Just the thought of pitting Funky Divas against Black Mafia Life gives me a headache.
Dangerous vs. What's the 411? vs. Love Deluxe vs. Funky Divas vs. It's About Time?
― weak willie (longneck), Saturday, 17 November 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
So, on the topic of 'The Chronic,' there's this lyric to "Fuck Wit Dre Day" that I've always found puzzling. When Dre says, "Gots teeth in yo mouth so my dick's gotta fit," isn't he kind of saying that his dick is smaller than... teeth? Does this bother anyone else???
― boy_slayer, Saturday, 17 November 2012 23:31 (eleven years ago) link
it's "gap teeth" and it's a reference to Luther Campbell and thank you for showing us that there is indeed a demand for Rap Genius's services
― K3v Ink (some dude), Saturday, 17 November 2012 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
― Good job, good multiple efforts (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, November 16, 2012 11:43 AM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this altho imo the mtd v bml is a much closer contest
― D-40, Friday, 7 December 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
― weak willie (longneck), Saturday, November 17, 2012 2:50 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
love deluxe >>>>>>>>>
― D-40, Friday, 7 December 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
― boy_slayer, Saturday, November 17, 2012 5:31 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― K3v Ink (some dude), Saturday, November 17, 2012 5:56 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
LMAO
that's been answered multiple times on ILX longer than rapgenius has been aorund
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Friday, 7 December 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
Our 1992 countdown has come to an end. 17 people voted for 24 albums each, and 66 different albums received votes. Here are the complete results:
1. Dr. Dre: The Chronic2. Gang Starr: Daily Operation3. Ice Cube: The Predator4. Redman: Whut? Thee Album5. Underground Kingz: Too Hard To Swallow6. Pharcyde: Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde7. Pete Rock & CL Smooth: Mecca And The Soul Brother8. DJ Quik: Way 2 Fonky9. Beastie Boys: Check Your Head10. Diamond and The Psychotic Neurotics: Stunts, Blunts And Hip Hop11. Above The Law: Black Mafia Life12. Sade: Love Deluxe13. Compton's Most Wanted: Music To Driveby14. Kool G Rap & DJ Polo: Live And Let Die15. Paris: Sleeping With The Enemy16. Das EFX: Dead Serious17. EPMD: Business Never Personal18. Eric B and Rakim: Don’t Sweat The Technique19. Prince & The NPG: Prince XV/Love Symbol20. Lord Finesse: Return Of The Funky Man21. Penthouse Players Clique: Paid The Cost22. Showbiz & AG: Runaway Slave23. Eazy-E: 5150 Home Of The Sick24. Common Sense: Can I Borrow A Dollar?25. Disposable Heroes Of Hiphoprisy: Hypocrisy Is the Greatest Luxury26. Mary J Blige: What's The 411?27. Boogie Down Productions: Sex & Violence28. Mac Dre: What's Really Going On?29. Too Short: Shorty The Pimp30. Ultramagnetic MCs: Funk Your Head Up31. Soundtrack: Juice32. Willie Dee: I'm Goin Out Like A Soldier33. Da Lench Mob: Guerillas In The Mist34. R. Kelly & Public Announcement: Born Into The 90s35. The Goats: Tricks Of The Shade36. Brand Nubian: In God We Trust37. Hard Knocks: School Of Hard Knocks38. Michael Jackson: Dangerous39. Bone Hard Productions feat Big Mello: Bone Hard Zaggin40. Shabba Ranks: X-Tra Naked41. Tweedy Bird Loc: 187 Ride By42. Spice 1: Spice 143. En Vogue: Funky Divas44. A Tribe Called Quest: Revisited Quest For The Seasoned Traveler45. Tung Twista: Runnin' Off At Tha Mouth46. Grand Puba: Reel To Reel47. TRU: Understanding The Criminal Mind48. OFTB: Straight Up Watts49. Roxanne Shante: Bitch Is Back50. Body Count: Body Count51. Buju Banton: Mr. Mention52. Rage Against The Machine: Rage Against The Machine53. Chubb Rock: Gotta Get Mine Yo!54. MC Ren: Kizz My Black Azz55. Too Much Trouble: Bringin' Hell On Earth56. Yo Yo :Black Pearl57. Demon Boyz: Original Guidance58. RBL Posse: A Lesson To Be Learned59. Point Blank: Prone To Bad Dreams60. SWV: It's About Time61. X Clan : Xodus62. Master P: Mama's Bad Boy63. Heavy D & The Boyz : Blue Funk64. Poison Clan: Poisonous Mentality65. Public Enemy: Greatest Misses66. Kid Frost: East Side Story
― dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 12:06 (eleven years ago) link