point me in the direction of the really good rolling stones album that's not 'exile on main street'

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i got miss you on forty five last night!! i wish it had the dre remix on it though

simon trife (simon_tr), Monday, 30 September 2002 04:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ok I downloaded the miss you dre mix with high hopes and it gets a big thumbs down... you can't just ditch that bassline! Although I do like the way it foregrounds Mick's vocals/lyrics and makes them sound a lot more sinister... but the beats are wack.

Ben Williams, Monday, 30 September 2002 12:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

"she can make a dead man cum"

mark s (mark s), Monday, 30 September 2002 13:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

OK - Beggars Banquet is one of the finest slabs of dirty, rough edged, diamond in the dust [insert cliche after cliche after cliche here] rock albums fullstop. Fullstop. In 1968, if you can open an album with six minutes of piano chord led incantations to the dark one then you gotta be onto something pretty special. And Beggars Banquet is special.

The people round here prob'ly won't give you much cred for getting turned on by the nasty blues-based rock that forms the bedrock of this album, much less for getting excited by it, but one listen to Streetfighting Man confirms that nobody rocks better than the Stones.

The album bites and snarls just like you'd expect but it also recoils - Sympathy is followed up straight away with the beautiful No Expectations, Streetfighting by Prodigal Son - its this ebb and flow of the whole which keeps Beggars fresh and compelling, human evcen, unlike the later self-parody and empty posturing. It also keeps Beggars from becoming obnoxious - the Stones you sense are beginning to get jaded by the rock star thing, and before the drugs and excess take full effect, they are getting proper pissed off. It's like they're trying to keep their feet on the ground, even as the madness sets in and they ascend to become the biggest rock band in the world. The album is certainly earthy and the symbolism throughout is undeniably rooted in the blues traditions of blood and sweat.

Also, it's on Beggars that I always feel Jagger is beginning to reallise that he can actually write alright lyrics - check Jigsaw Puzzle and tell me if you think he's been listening to Zimmerman. Maybe he doesn't quite pull it off but I give him points for trying.

One more thing - Jones' guitar work here is fascinating. I can never work out if the guy is a drug addled wastrel or a pied-piper genius. I think I'm right in saying that it's his trills an Symapthy, which are hideously out of time but for that, absolutely on point. And also the filthy cat's claw on metal noises he wrings from the thing on Stray Cat Blues - its just fucking spot on, all the way through.

Oh, and what Andrew L said about Goats Head is OTM.

Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Monday, 30 September 2002 15:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't think Brian Jones did anything on Beggars Banquet other than the slide guitar on No Expectations (maybe). There's amazing footage of them working up Sympathy for the Devil from an acoustic blues number in the Jean Luc-Godard film One Plus One--Brian is entirely superfluous.

"Later self-parody": I have to say Mick comes off as a poseur on Stray Cat Blues... but the music makes up for it.

God, my Stones bore mode is becoming engaged... must leave this thread alone....

Ben Williams, Monday, 30 September 2002 15:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's Keith on "Sympathy", yeah. No Jones presence beyond doing most of the drugs for them so they can record. Was Ry Cooder on BB? Could be him on slide.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 30 September 2002 21:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ry Cooder's on Let it Bleed...

and a really good Rolling Stones album that hasn't been mentioned yet: Out of Our Heads (she said yeah!)

willem (willem), Monday, 30 September 2002 21:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

agreed on "Shattered," Ben--tense disco-funk forcebeat par excellence. it's not a coincidence that Prince was a big Stones fan (or that Jagger was a big Prince fan, either).

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 30 September 2002 21:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

two years pass...
Most definitely Exile & Sticky Fingers, though Monkey Man is one hell of a good song. Being more of a Keith fan its only obviuos that Exile was recorded @ Keiths house.

Linda Coats, Monday, 14 February 2005 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link

My personal favorite Stones album is an old German import called Around and Around, a best-of-their-early-days comp. But you'll never find it, so just go get Sticky Fingers.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Monday, 14 February 2005 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link

threads u don't remember starting volume 36 part b).

piscesboy, Monday, 14 February 2005 14:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll defend "Dirty Work" and "Emotional Rescue" (except the title song) to my dying breath.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link

the title song of emotional rescue is absolutely grebt, though!

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, I am very fond of "December's Children." The cover of Berry's "Talkin' About You" and especially "Gotta Get Away," I love that song.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 14 February 2005 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Tattoo You hasn't been mentioned? Side A is the party in the living room - Side B is the bedroom down the hall.

57 7th (calstars), Monday, 14 February 2005 19:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd go with Some Girls. Yeah, what's wrong with "Emotional Rescue"?

noodle vague (noodle vague), Monday, 14 February 2005 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
It's the best song on that record! Keith's song's good too, bit formless tho.

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 21 April 2005 09:18 (nineteen years ago) link

The Rolling Stones Now! is my favorite early album. Then probably Beggars Banquet and/or Let It Bleed.
Metamorphasis is pretty nifty, but it's a b-sides collection (kind of like Flowers, but that one has a few a-sides on it too), so maybe it's not considered a 'real' album. But it's black and round, it's got a hole in the middle, it's twelve inches across and it plays at 33-1/3 rpm, so I count it.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Thursday, 21 April 2005 11:46 (nineteen years ago) link

In response to the original question, 'Memo From Turner' is on Metamorphasis.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Thursday, 21 April 2005 11:47 (nineteen years ago) link

"Metamorphosis" also has the very ace "Somethings Just Stick in Your Mind" and "Downtown Suzie."

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 21 April 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd much rather be with the boys!

European Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Thursday, 21 April 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't like Some Girls that much, mostly because I hate the production.

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link

"Emotional Rescue" gets my vote; "Dirty Work" too. I will defend the latter to the death.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm in the Let it Bleed camp, but will also defend Emotional Rescue (my first Stones album)...including the title track.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, Undercover is cruelly underrated.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, but the guy who started the thread doesn't want to hear Undercover! he wants Let It Bleed or Beggar's Banquet! Give him time!

European Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link

oh wait this thread is from 2002

European Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Between The Buttons!!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 22 April 2005 07:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Goddess In the Doorway!!

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Friday, 22 April 2005 07:17 (nineteen years ago) link

All records 68-72 get an A+, Goat's Head Soup is an underrated classic, and Some Girls is their last great album (and one of their best).

Yngwie AlmsteenMay (sgertz), Friday, 22 April 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link

u still can't get PERFORMANCE on dvd can u?

piscesboy, Saturday, 23 April 2005 08:11 (nineteen years ago) link

It's all about AFTERMATH: "Paint It Black," "Under My Thumb," "High & Dry," "Think," "Stupid Girl," "Flight 505," the epic "Going Home."

Flawless!

m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 23 April 2005 10:20 (nineteen years ago) link

here's a shout out for It's Only Rock 'n Roll - imo definitely the best of their mid-seventies lull (GHS, B&B). The opening track, title track, & "Dance Little Sister" are worth the price of admission. Add to that the coked-out, paranoid funk of "Fingerprint File", "Ain't Too Proud To Beg" cover and Van Morrison-esque "Till The Next Goodbye" and you've got a damn fine Stones record.

Will(iam), Saturday, 23 April 2005 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Goat's Head Soup is an underrated classic

My neighbor was playing something that sounded really good the other day as it came muffled through my wall. When I asked him about it later he told it was Goat's Head Soup. I owned this long ago but seldom listened to it and don't remember it at all. In a way it's not too surprising that this would sound good coming from the next apartment over -- it's the 70s Rolling Stones, after all -- but...further comments? Should I re-buy it?

box.of.rox, Saturday, 23 April 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link

he said it was

box.of.rox, Saturday, 23 April 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link

The UK running order of Buttons makes it a whole different album, really -- without the overfamiliar (but not at all un-classic) "Let's Spend the Night Together" opening it up, it has a more understated appeal. "Yesterdays Papers" works better, leading into "My Obsession," etc.

Also, the UK version of Aftermath opens with "Mother's Little Helper," which the US version does not even include. You can't do without "Paint It Black," though.

happy fun ball (kenan), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 05:57 (nineteen years ago) link

haha "understated appeal"

Jesus I suck.

happy fun ball (kenan), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 06:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I continue to live in hope that one day the world will wake up and acknowledge the louche majesty of Black And Blue. Hot Stuff! Hand Of Fate! Fool To Cry! Memory Motel! I mean, come ON!

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 06:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Seconded. Those songs (there's other good stuff on it, I think, it's a great lazy groove rec if not a great SONGWRITING one) are about as good as anything they evr did. In my drunker/more romantic moments BandB's my fav RS Lp. There isn't a mid70s lull, btw, but there IS a bunch of recieved opinion (actually "It's Only"'s pretty tired as I remember but I'm prob wrong and anyway big deal it's one album).

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 12:18 (nineteen years ago) link

RECEIVED, Andrew.

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 12:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Some "great lazy groove" stuff covers the rest of the Lp pretty well now I look

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I think every single Stones studio album has been mentioned on this thread at least once.

Keith C (kcraw916), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 12:40 (nineteen years ago) link

They're a good band

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 12:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Masterpieces

The Rolling Stones, Now!
Aftermath
Beggar’s Banquet
Let it Bleed
Exile on Main Street
Some Girls

Great Albums

12 x 5
December’s Children (underrated)
Between the Buttons
Sticky Fingers

Very Good Albums

England’s Newest Hit Makers
Out of Our Heads
Flowers
Get Your Ya-Ya’s Out

Good Albums

Satanic Majesty’s Request
It’s Only Rock and Roll
Black and Blue
Tattoo You

Don’t care much for the rest…

Not Thaat Chuck, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 13:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd move "Ya-ya's" up to Great, just because of "Stray Cat Blues." But other than that, I think you're totally OTM.

happy fun ball (kenan), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 14:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll say "Dirty Work" again. "One Hit (To The Body)" and "Sleep Tonight" and "Hold Back" kick harder than anything in their catalogue.

As for other post-EOMS classics....I heard "Summer Romance" the other day on the radio and it sounded GREAT.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Other than Exile, Rolling Stones Now is great, and what I've heard of Some Girls suggests that it may be, too. Beggars Banquet is at least very good. I appreciate Aftermath - there's clearly something there - but just don't find it very likable (which may be the point) - what if anything am I missing? Sticky Fingers is ok, but pretty boring. Never heard the others. What should I go for next?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Alfred, NO NO NO NO NO NO NO (have you even HEARD "Tattoo You"? For a start?). Tho maybe yr just beyond infatuated w/80s shit in which case ROCK ON HOMBRE

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Settle down, bro! I love "Tattoo You," but it's SUCH a predictable choice.

I don't love one decade more than another either.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link

btw I love "Black & Blue" as much as you do.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

there'll be peace now that Amateurist is done, at least.

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm sorry, that was stupid.

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link

shit, Frank Kogan's comment is great. I was watching that Godard movie about the Stones the other day, trying to explain what I think Godard is doing there--making the connection between the collective action of the Stones trying to make art (from samba, folk music, blues) and the action in the streets, as unpalatable as it is to various sensibilities. Which is exactly what country music can't do in its current, not uninteresting, ahistorical muddle. The morality of form and its exploitation and all that.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 23:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I like the Stones' filler better than I do the Beatles' , anyway. Their takes on Hank Snow and Benny Spellman and Berry and Rufus Thomas feel pretty integral to me, on those early albums. Anyway, my favorites are indeed "Exile" and "Bleed" and "Aftermath," but I sure listen to "Dirty Work" and "Emotional Rescue" and "Some Girls" more these days, when I listen to the Stones.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 00:56 (nineteen years ago) link

"but I sure listen to "Dirty Work" and "Emotional Rescue" and "Some Girls" more these days, when I listen to the Stones."

Edd, I'm buying drinks tonight.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 00:58 (nineteen years ago) link

c'mon and meet me at the Red Door on Division in Nashvegas, we'll get some old country singers to buy *us* drinks ( Mark Collie stood me n' my buddies to a round the other night, and he told us tales of his unreleased live record made at Tennessee's Women's Prison...Dirty Work indeed.)

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 01:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Nowadays I just look to the stones for fashion tips.

happy fun ball (kenan), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 01:52 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
ha! i like that last post.

piscesboy, Thursday, 15 September 2005 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Once again I thump my fists on the table, proclaiming the greatness of Dirty Work and Emotional Rescue.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 15 September 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

i vote sticky fingers. but even then, just like all the other albums in their purple patch, you have to put up with the mawkish/sentimental/somewhat unlistenable fillerish ballads and downhome country-blues tributes that arent as good as the rock tracks next to them. exile is good in that its so consistent but its highpoints dont stick out immediately like with the others. but then i dont really think the stones are an albums band either, for the most part. hot rocks 1 is my fave album of theirs.

uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, 25 January 2009 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Of the earliest albums, Now! is great. Their version of "Mona" kills.

WmC, Sunday, 25 January 2009 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I like Goat's Head Soup better than Exile.

thirdalternative, Sunday, 25 January 2009 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link


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