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they had promo copies of it sent in the states. the new art is *unfortunate* but at least it'll hit outside of new york city. i hear they are recording new 'songy' stuff as a duo. it should be kin to what they were doing on tour, which i heard was telepathic.

― andy, Thursday, 2 October 2003 13:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

can i have a copy of this, colin? will travel, can supply own cdrs!

― raphael diligent (Cozen), Saturday, 29 November 2003 16:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

oh my, i wish! - i am too broke to buy a thing, sorry. I havent seen it anywhere either.

― jed (jed_e_3), Saturday, 29 November 2003 18:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

i am still fairly floor'd by everything i've heard, but especially spirit... (the reish is def in my top 10 this year)

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 29 November 2003 21:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

I love this band with all of my little heart. But mostly when I'm on a little bit of the something something.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 29 November 2003 22:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm a fan. I bought Danse Manatee when it came out, because it was cheap and it looked interesting, and then I emailed the address to find out more about them. This was what, two years ago? I was still in school. One of the guys from the band emailed me back, and told me about Spirit, which I bought as soon as it was back in stock at Other Music. I really love the Spirit album, I think it's one of the most beautiful art records that I've ever heard. I like the Campfire Music and Here Comes The Indian, but nothing on either of them blows me away as much as "Penny Dreadfuls" or "Essplode."

God bless them. I hope that Avey Tare eventually comes around to making more "pop" records at some point, though. I think that melody, lyrics, and structure suits their style very well. I can appreciate the crazier, more free-form music, but it doesn't move me nearly as much.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 30 November 2003 00:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

I was excited to hear that Panda Bear "opened" for the Kompakt gig in NYC recently by singing over a DJ's tracks, just like that cute Colette DJ from Chicago (or is it L.A. now?). Really like their albums, but I'd love to get ahold of a live set of theirs. Like Mr. Quintron and various garage bands I've seen recently, they really seem to shine the most when they play live, and no studio recording is going to capture what they're capable of. They're grrrrr-eat!

― Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Sunday, 30 November 2003 07:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

What is this spirit that you speak of?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 30 November 2003 07:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

Never mind, I have it in my sights now.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 30 November 2003 07:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

RE: pop, yes I like it when it's pop and wish there was more

RE: Kompakt gig...Panda Bear has performed while singing on top of Other Music's Scotty Mau(a fantastic DJ) before, they called themselves "Jane"

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 1 December 2003 05:03 (9 years ago) Permalink

not a big fan myself but thought you'd get a kick out of this piece by the great Rod Smith: http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0330/music-animal.php

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 1 December 2003 05:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

The Jane CDRs are really good. They made very very few of them and sold them at Other Music.
The new AT and PB record will be quite a bit poppier than anything recently and should be amazing. I don't think it is coming out for a quite a while, unfortunately, even though they already recorded it.

― Magic City (ano ano), Monday, 1 December 2003 17:03 (9 years ago) Permalink

"The Jane CDRs are really good. They made very very few of them and sold them at Other Music."

D'oh! I'd love to hear them. I'll be in NY later this month. Do you think there's a snowball's chance in hell they might still have any?

― Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Monday, 1 December 2003 22:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

now i'm a fan. (colin, i'll fix you up.)

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

this kinda sounds like how i wished the oxes sounded like when i was dreaming about them, even though nothing like them.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

'bat you'll fly' really sounds like the russian futurists. did anyone hear that russian futurists record or what?

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

i) this is better through headphones.
ii) he can sound scarily like billy corgan in places; meep.
iii) danse manatee isn't as good as the first disc : /
iv) maybe that was the earphones thing, cos i listened to it through speakers (cf. i).

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 20:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

i like the russian futurists lots but i've never noticed a similarity - i'll have to listen again.

has anyone else heard Hollindagain?

― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 20:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

i think it was just that particular track, toby.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 20:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

i should listen to danse manatee again, i've only heard it once.

actually i should listen to all their albums lots on headphones, i don't get to play them much at home cos ppl tend to complain.

― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 20:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

Hollindagain (or whatever its called) is their best - unfortnately, it's now impossible to find.

What's this "Jane" CDR??

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 8 January 2004 06:03 (9 years ago) Permalink

Campfire Songs! Campfire Songs! Sounds nothing like the rest of their material! But it's REALLY PRETTY and REALLY DRONEY.

Ho hum. Is Hollindagain the live album people are always talking about?

― Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 8 January 2004 06:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah i really really want to know more about this "jane" cdr (cdrs?).

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 8 January 2004 08:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

oh and i totally see where you're coming from re russian futurists.

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 8 January 2004 10:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

hollindagain is supposed to be reissued, i think on paw tracks but maybe fat cat? dunno when.

jane is a duo featuring panda bear (under his own name) and another party i wasn't able to place. very beat-oriented, possibly even clubby. i have no idea where their cdrs might be available, i got a copy from a friend of a friend, who found it in a used been in a store that isn't around anymore in houston.

― Mark Flaum, Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

On one of the Michael Mayer threads on ILM someone wrote that Jane is Panda Bear "singing" over DJ Casio... I think that's write.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

magic city's post

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:35 (9 years ago) Permalink

ts: memory vs. spelling

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

what is 'here comes the indian' like?

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 10 January 2004 02:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

New live dates from the paw-tracks page, which means new material!
February 20th - New York - Barnard College with Need New Body and White Magic - Prentis Hall - 632 W 125th St.

February 21st - New York - Knitting Factory with the Numbers

March 27th - New York - Anthology Film Archives

Deacon told me it might even be danceable!
Plus jane is playing with Orthrealm and Black dice next Friday at the Knit. New York's long dark winter is over.

― Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 19:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

Also since a lot of people were asking: the Jane CDRs were released in photocopied black and white 7" sleeves which made them look kind of like a punk band. The covers are really nice though and they often feature the steal your face dead logo.
They made them all themselves, very few, I don't know how many and I guess they are all gone. They have been talking about putting out a 12"
One description I read somewhere is Cologne beats with psych vocals. Pretty true. The vocals are heavily effected, like a lot of AS stuff. One song, "Coconuts" sounds like reggae. That one and solid gold wall are my favorites. Most songs are around 20 minutes long.

― Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

mitchell - i've asked at other music twice and written Noah personally, and those CDRs are GONE, man - please put it up on soulseek!!!!

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

I like Terrestrial Tones.

but as far as the AT & PB stuff is concerned, what little I've heard all sounds like Cornelius.

― Roger, Friday, 6 February 2004 22:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

roger, I would except, well, I don't even own a computer.

Roger, have you only heard Spirit...? If you like TT I would reccomend Here Comes the Indian esp the "Two Sails" and "Infant Dressing Table" tracks.

― Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

mitchell - i guess then a burn is out of the question?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

roger, I'll see what I can do. I probably can use a friend's computer.

― Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

i'll take this opportunity to mention (for the sake of anybody reading this thread who hasn't made up their mind about buying it or not) that nothing i read from ilxors before buying prepared me for it.

i was expecting some sort of fried elephant six acid folk - instead i got dense sheets of tape manipulation and scary noises. i honestly feel this stuff is closer to stockhausen than elephant six.

i've heard some live jackie o motherfucker bootlegs (very heavy on turntables) that start to approximate the sound but yeah, it's very very tapeloop/effects heavy.

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

Vahid, which record did you buy? My guess is you bought "Here Comes.." It's like the opposite of what I said to Roger. All the Elephant 6/ Flaming Lips comparisons make sense, maybe, when talking about Spirit or Campfire Songs.
The other stuff is definitely fucked.
But, in gerneal, I don't think Avey Tare gets enough credit for his ability to write hooks. Even the most effected, distorted material has a hook, imo.
eg the repeated vocal "hiccups" in "Infant Dressing Table" or the simple keyborad line in "I See You Pan"

The new record, recorded as a duo of AT and PB, is maybe the most acid folk material thus far. It is mainly acoustic guitars, fun percusion, and catchy (but still fucked) songwriting.

― Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

haha my friend doesn't like them because 'they sound like the beatles'.

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

great hook: 'doggy' from campfire songs (still remaining the only animal collective i own due to being poor/slsk not working in the dorm--kakadelic???)

x-o-x-xo

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

mitchell - wow yeah i'd super appreciate that and promise to share with other ILXors, who are also, doubtlessly, jonesing to hear it

i have much to trade - email me if yr lookin for anything - can also pay postage and some extra if ya want

by the way, Avey's split with Grubbs on FatCat is awesome. there's an animal collective lp coming out on Fat Cat this year too

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

for some reason i tend to forget that half of "dusk at cubist castle" is abstract tape experiment. maybe that just shows that compared to animal collective or JoMF the e6 crew are tapeloop dilletantes.

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

mitchell: good guess!

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

i think i can hear that beatles thing actually!

i dont like this that much any more either tho.

― prima fassy (bob), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

i really hope you can sort something out with those jane cdrs, i'm dying to hear them. i wrote to the animal collective and they suggested trying other music again, and a couple of weeks ago they said they'd be getting some in last week, but i've heard nothing since :-(

zemko have you heard hollindagain?

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

keep up zemko!

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

~~prima fassy~~

it was a good pun. it was just too punky. people would call me fassy and think it hurt. close your eyes little one! ack

― zemko (bob), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

havent heard hollindagain no, it's the fat cat one right? feels a bit like the ship has sailed. i wanna hear the russian futurists more now! didnt fancy the double lepers either huh toby

― zemko zemkingdom (bob), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

i miss prima fassy :(

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 7 February 2004 00:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

i'm not sure you'll like the russian futurists, prima fassy.

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 7 February 2004 00:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

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so, new AC. the Panda track is better imo.
Tare repeat the same tricks he pulled in Feels etc...
the production sounds like old AC, which is great.

― nostormo, Monday, 7 May 2012 11:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

On first listen it's ok I guess. Doesn't feel like it has anything at all to do with 2012, which is not necessarily a bad thing but in the absence of new tricks I'd like some better tunes.

― NSFW Australia (seandalai), Monday, 7 May 2012 11:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

the Panda track is better imo.

Both songs sound like Avey Tare to me.

― spastic heritage, Monday, 7 May 2012 12:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah both are avey. don't get a feels vibe at all from these.

― mizzell, Monday, 7 May 2012 13:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

i really like the percussion. agree the tunes aren't great, but these were far from the best songs on the last tour.

― mizzell, Monday, 7 May 2012 14:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wow, seems ILM really has moved on from Animal Collective...not even a bit of abuse for old time's sake?

― NSFW Australia (seandalai), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 00:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

ya these songs haven't struck me very much yet, which as a fanboy is pretty rare for new Animal Collective material. I think maybe I'm not especially digging the sonic palette they're using, it all sounds a bit murky and indistinct without having other qualities to make up for that. But then I've seen them doing their latest set of songs a couple of times and listened to them a couple more and I don't really remember these songs, so whatever I still anticipate the album. V uninternetty response I admit, it's time to proclaim a shark jump.

― Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Doesn't feel like it has anything at all to do with 2012

Not sure what's '2012', but this comment sticks with me.

― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 16:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm holding out for the "Untitled" song that pitchfork filmed them performing at p4k fest last year

― caulk the wagon and float it, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

11 months pass...

centipede hz is their Load

― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 18:42 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

I just happened to throw on Feels this morning on my way to work. Still my favorite of album of theirs.

― Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:07 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Centipede HZ is their Exile on Main Street. It's its own world... the best thing they've done.

― rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:28 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

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