STEVE ALBINI

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Why's there such a big cult of personality around a recording engineer? I don't get it.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 25 November 2002 20:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

Because it's fun.

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 25 November 2002 20:31 (10 years ago) Permalink

Because of where he PLACES THE MICROPHONES. Ooooh!

hstencil, Monday, 25 November 2002 20:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

''Why's there such a big cult of personality around a recording engineer? I don't get it.''

um, he's not just a recording engineer sundar. shellac, rapeman and big black were/are good rock bands.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 25 November 2002 20:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

It's because of his music? That's even weirder.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 25 November 2002 21:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

OK he does come across as an idiot and this 'cult' you talk abt (well, since I do live in the UK and don't mix in indie circles)... its the first time I heard of it b-but I like his bands.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 25 November 2002 21:07 (10 years ago) Permalink

Because there are two people here and I want you to kill them.

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 25 November 2002 22:31 (10 years ago) Permalink


Because of where he PLACES THE MICROPHONES. Ooooh!

oh... don't forget the record buttons! and those level knobs! oh shit... and the pan knob!

(really tho... all respect due...)
m.

msp, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 03:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

i think you're confusing tracking with mixing

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 04:01 (10 years ago) Permalink

I saw Shellac like a month ago. I went because Rye Coalition were opening, and if you don't know about them, ya betta axe somebody. I was thinking about going up to Steve and saying (in numbnuts doofus voice) "Uh, Mister Albini, here's a tape of stuff I did on my 4-track with about $500 worth of equipment. Do you think you could listen to it, and then tell me if I have any talent that you could perhaps mold into something great, take me under your wing, as it goes?" But I drank to many beers and had to leave 3 songs into Shellacs set, so it didn't happen.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 04:16 (10 years ago) Permalink

You guys are nerds.
Seriously. Steve Albini is not Julia Roberts and you are not Mary Hart.

E-to-the-Izzo, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:22 (10 years ago) Permalink

And you're not H.L. Mencken so step off already.

hstencil, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:30 (10 years ago) Permalink

But you are Dorothy Parker.
No wait, you're W.C. Fields. Or maybe Otto Fishbine? Ian Blurton perhaps?
I always thought it was the thundering/echo-y drums that indicated the Albini-signature sound?

I'm just wondering, I mean, I like some of Albini's stuff as a guitarist, and I certainly own no shortage of Albini-produced/recorded/engineered alb's, but I buy those to hear the band, not the Bean.

I mean, I wouldn't eat burnt fries just because they were made with PEI spuds.

E-to-the-Izzo, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

Dude, I'm totally Groucho Marx.

hstencil, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

Then I get to be Margaret Dumont.

E-to-the-Izzo, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:47 (10 years ago) Permalink

Well then I'd totally swoon over you, but I don't know you that well.

hstencil, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:48 (10 years ago) Permalink

If you knew me better, you wouldn't swoon.
No wait! You're Groucho!
Maybe I should just be Harpo.

Skronk!

E-to-the-Izzo, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:57 (10 years ago) Permalink

Why's there such a big cult of personality around a recording engineer? I don't get it.
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It's because of his music? That's even weirder.

sundar you are needed on those threads about Pop processes and performers.....
It looks like you'd be on the 'Pop Personalities! They're GrrrrrrrrATE!' side of things, since there's an implication from the above that the engineering/musician thing should be just be a backroom work-like function? Or have I just misinterpreted a joke?
(I'm not having a go here - I'm genuinely curious....)

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 17:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

I always thought it was the thundering/echo-y drums that indicated the Albini-signature sound?

you're kidding, right? his are the dryest drums i can think of.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 22:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

not one drop of reverb allowed near the ambient drum mics (all 150 of them... haha)

gygax!, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 22:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

ILM-friendly Albini article...

oh no it's INDIE!

gygax!, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 22:40 (10 years ago) Permalink

6 years pass...

been reading the luke haines book where he speaks fondly about steve albini (and NO ONE ELSE at all ever), which got me thinking about that 2+2 thread where albini answered a bunch of questions about his career. i read all through it a few years back and im sure he spoke about luke haines/auteurs but i can't find it on there, any ilxors remember?

NI, Monday, 18 May 2009 12:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

that is so fucking inspiring

not the post office security crap, albini's secret santa thing

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 10:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

TO THE ONE TRUE SANTA ABOVE, THIS IS MY etc.

that is an awesome thing to do. Silly postal service.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 11:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

The couple contacted U.S. Rep. Danny Davis, D-Ill., who told them he would look into the post office's policy change. But after talking to postal officials, Davis decided he agreed with the policy change.

"Better to be safe than sorry, that what my momma used to tell us," Davis said. "You can't be too protective."

Well... Yes, you can.

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 15:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

That distinctive metallic chingety-ching guitar sound that Albini gets on 'Kerosene' etc... from now on I will only ever hear that as the sound of badly-mic'ed sleigh bells.

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 15:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

aw that's a real nice thing steve.

IT WASN'T NOT FUNNY! (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

er, I thought Albini was a jerk. CONFUSING

lukevalentine, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

i met him once when shellac played my friend's wedding and he was super nice and polite, even talked with their parents and everything.

IT WASN'T NOT FUNNY! (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

Line-up for next week's Letters to Santa benefit in Chicago. Second City has about 200 seats, so it's a nice, intimate place to see bands. I saw Shellac there at 3 a.m. a few years ago, for an audience of about 50; saw Tweedy, Robbie Fulks, and Jason Molina as well. The Blisters is Tweedy's kid's band--maybe 12 years old, now.

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Action Orientation (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

haha, Shellac plays weddings? wow. but yeah, it seems like Albini likes (or liked) being provocative, but most people who work with him seem to love the guy.

tylerw, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah basically my friends are super fans and his wife to be just emailed bob weston i think and ended up chatting with them about it...they basically had to pay enough to cover the opening touring band's room & board (had a band from NZ on the shellac tour) but anyway it worked out with their schedule and it was really fun, my old band got to open...

they played most of "la grange" and about 30 second of "shout at the devil" wish i recorded that set

IT WASN'T NOT FUNNY! (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

too shart (am0n), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Steve Albini's cookery blog..

http://mariobatalivoice.blogspot.com/

Night Nurse with Wound (Jack Battery-Pack), Friday, 10 June 2011 11:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

"I have also successfully cooked for our cats."

classic!

Night Nurse with Wound (Jack Battery-Pack), Friday, 10 June 2011 11:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like how if you go back to the first few entries it reads like the blandest most uninspired cooking blog ever - think there might have been rather a lot of feet-finding here

his 'great mate' Luke Haines just started one as well, can't quite figure out how much his recipes are trolling (unless you're Paul Weller)

Beth Gibbons & Foreskin Man (DJ Mencap), Friday, 10 June 2011 12:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Now that is worth bookmarking!

Mark G, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol yeah I subscribed to that one

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 10 June 2011 13:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

he sure does make a lot of pasta

call all destroyer, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Love how all of Albini's hobbies - online poker! cooking blog! - reveal him to be the nice, normal guy his reputation doesn't always convey. Though I think he's mellowed a lot as he creeps toward 50.

Now, an Ian MacKaye cooking blog, that would be a surprise.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

I remember when Fugazi did a recipe column for Maximum Rock'n'Roll and it was for fucking oatmeal, no joke.

NickB, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Haines food blog is fucking great.

oppet, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Luke Haines?

kornrulez6969, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

x-post

Ian M.'s been a vegetarian for awhile and a parent for a few years so maybe he could do some interesting blog posts

curmudgeon, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

in some recent henry rollins interview (on wtf i think) he was talking about how he basically hates the whole 'eating' thing and mostly eats oatmeal.

adult music person (Jordan), Friday, 10 June 2011 13:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 10 June 2011 13:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

The only time I have ever followed a musician's recipe was when I made spicy bean burgers from Richard Youngs' vegan cookbook. They were horrible btw and my family hated them.

NickB, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Please tell me that somewhere in the comments on the Albini blog, Michael Gerard has complained about the quality of his hamburgers.

NickB, Friday, 10 June 2011 14:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

i love that photo.
he looks sooo happy.
he played the game his way, and he got what he wanted.
lucky b*stard.
re the cancer post : well, i could not read it for a few days for obvious reasons, but yesterday i did, and i'm glad.
our situation was very different, but still, was wonderfully open and honest.

mark e, Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

I always read about him talking shit about the Pixies but ive never really read any of those old interviews. Does anyone have any links? I'm pretty curious, all the interviews i can find are more recent.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 13 May 2012 18:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

In the 1960s and '70s, the left began to recognize that internal political debate was being hampered by crippling "revolutionary" circumspectness -- couching every "he" as a "he or she," Referring to mankind as "humankind," trying to be inclusive in every way to everyone. It was ridiculous -- to the left -- and so the phrase "political correctness" was coined to make fun of this awkward, stilted, revolution-speak language.

So, when someone would speak normally, and one of the forbidden language forms or pronouns was used, someone else -- as a joke -- would chime in with "that's not P.C."

It was a way for the Left to make fun of itself in a way that it needed to and deserved. Most importantly, it recognizes overtly that the trivia that dogmatists might criticize are unimportant. It was a joke that made a moderate, sensible point of critique within the Left.

The Right took hold of the term, using it to ridicule earnest attempts to make discourse more civil or policy more responsible, painting them with the same brush as the myopic, dogmatic revolution-speak it was originally intended to make light jest of.

It is now assumed by the general public that this notion of "politically correct" speech was a serious one, and that the left tried to impose it on others, and that it is an example of the Left overreaching in social areas. This is patent bullshit, and I am disgusted that nobody who wasn't around at the time recognizes it. Using the term reinforces the success of this right-wing propaganda move, and I hate it.

I hate orchestrated right-wing propaganda moves.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 13 May 2012 19:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

I love the Shellac song "Ghosts". Did anything in particular inspire it or is there anything interesting about it you can share with us?

Just had the idea that if you could conjure ghosts it would be a pretty terrible power. Like you could just make somebody dead and a ghost just like that. Or take a regular dead person and make him a restless specter forced to roam the earth forever. And if the person with that power was a little girl, just amusing herself by making ghosts like she was making paper dolls or whatever. How cute and also horrible that would be. And then what kind of people would she do that to? Maybe a historical figure she learned about in school or another kid from the neighborhood or somebody from TV...

^^^love this, probably my fav shellac lyrics and i appreciate the insight

call all destroyer, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

surfer rosa & tweez, albums that would not be as good as they are if albini hadn't imposed his vision on them - I would think that this might cause him to question the aesthetic he arrived at ("hands off") tbh

― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, May 13, 2012 8:25 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is sort of interesting to me--i think steve is still imposing his vision tbh, you can recognize his recordings instantly. maybe it's more like these days you know what you're getting if you record with him?

call all destroyer, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think he's just more inclined to slip his vision in through the back door when no one's looking

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's a little like the Dogme 95 folks not imposing their vision with recorded music, fake lights, etc.--when of course you can spot a Dogme 95 movie from a block away.

caro's johnson (Eazy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 23:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

to be honest i can't hear any sonic difference between surfer rosa and doolittle -- maybe it's the MP3s?
the stooges album sounded like a regular high-gloss rock album.

Philip Nunez, Sunday, 13 May 2012 23:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

In a way yeah he seems more like an engineer, someone who knows how to get a good sound and use the right mics. He says thats lots of times producers are responsible for you know, hiring a saxophone or crafting the arrangement or basically co-writing the song as recording. On Surfer he suggested a tempo change and pushed for the in-studio sounds ("You effing die!") but you get the sense he thinks of his job as simply getting the best sonic representation of a song/band. This is why he doesn't take royalties, I'm sure with his work ethic, if he was laying down synth patterns and extra instruments and stuff, he'd want credit.

The difference is between scaled-down multi-track analog and like a far more expensive 24-channel digital system. If you can't tell the difference then I'd say he did a pretty terrific job!

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 May 2012 03:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

it also matters a lot who mixes the record and who they're answering to/who they feel their obligation is to (label vs. artist vs. themselves vs. idk "posterity" or something) -- mix is 1) an entirely different discipline from recording/engineering and 2) absolutely as important as the recording itself. I don't know who mixed those Pixies records but that'd be where I'd look most for differences.

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 14 May 2012 03:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

surfer rosa was all albini. doolittle was a gil norton production but some other dude mixed it

our love will change the world (electricsound), Monday, 14 May 2012 03:21 (1 year ago) Permalink


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