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Thanks Andrew, that sounds worth checking out. I need more slow and pretty jazz in my life.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

it is great to see so little "destroy" on this thread... though i will suggest one. destroy: keith jarret "ruta and daitya". it's like herbie hancock doing don cherry, very poorly. kill that noise.

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 16:35 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm sure there are tons of overly polite, classically influenced Eurojazz that are ECMlicious and that I would hate, but the great stuff is really great and I'm glad that ECM exists.

I remembered another one that I have to go back and listen to...this John Abercrombie organ trio record called Tactics that I remember being overly blurry and atmospheric (in playing and sound) except for a couple tracks, but I might like it a lot more now.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 16:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

The Art Ensemble of Chicago's Urban Bushmen is great. One hard-to-find, but definitely worthwhile, ECM title is the Jazz Composers Orchestra's Communications (it's available through ECM in Europe, but I've never seen a copy in the US).

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 16:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

I think it's great that ECM has managed to keep up this aesthetic for so long, I mean there are records that I don't associate with ECM (Conference of the Birds, Communications) but for the most part you know what you're getting. The definition of a good label. And those album covers!

― scott m (mcd), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 17:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

I forgot I also have this one that I picked up for a few bucks on used vinyl. It's more in the vein of Jarrett's classical recordings than his jazz stuff. He sticks to the written music, which is sort of Eastern sounding music for the piano written by the early 20th-century mystic G.I. Gurdjieff.

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 17:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

I picked up Bright Size LIfe yesterday thanks to the recommendation herein. I was looking for some relaxing wintery mood music, and that's pretty much what I got. Thanks!

― Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 17:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

Ah, Bright Size Life is great. Bob Moses!

Also, those 80s Jack DeJohnette Special Edition records are mostly pretty great, I always mean to check out more of them. I just looked at the ECM website, some of those 'selected recordings' comps look pretty tempting.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 17:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

destroy: egberto gismonte and charlie haden. its great music! the best parts are so angular and fragmented that it ends up sounding like "strings of life" played live, or bizarre fractal cut-ups of wyndham hill records (alex degrassi?). okay i'm spazzing a bit but i like their style that much. too bad the recording sucks. way too much dynamic range, thank you ecm! i'll be waiting until i've saved up for my linn before i put this one on again.

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 17:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

Saved up for your Linn what? (LP12/Lingo/Ittok/Rega Exact here! And Kabers! Woohoo!)

― Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 17:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

ooh, I forgot about Jack DeJohnette! Good call, Jordan. I only have the self-titled special edition record from 1979, but it's been a big favorite of mine for a while. Blythe and Murray on reeds. "Zoot Suite" is the killer tune; that one often pops in my head unexpectedly.

― Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 18:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

i saw it in a magazine. i forget what it was called. stackable mono amplifiers, i think. klimax solo, maybe? (they sure have funny names for a scottish company!) that is of course, pie in the sky. i'll be lucky to save up enough to replace my secondhand NAD system when it finally goes ...

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 18:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

Oooh I just thought of another stone classic on ECM - 'Nothing Ever Was, Anyway: Music of Annette Peacock' by Marilyn Crispell, Gary Peacock and Paul Motian, plus a guest appearance from AP herself. Has one of my all-time fave cover pics:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000320E.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 19:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

One hard-to-find, but definitely worthwhile, ECM title is the Jazz Composers Orchestra's Communications

this would be one of my favourite records, the 'touchstone' if you like for my interest in free jazz. Ostensibly on the muso's own JCOA label dating from when it was recorded in the '60s (jazz composers orchestra of _america_ i suppose), yes it turns up packaged and distributed by ECM. I should know, since i've leant several copies of it to people who've liked it so much they've kept it that i've re-bought it 3 times.
Ironic, ridiculous but typical and sad i suppose that it gets shuffled off, not included in ECMs proper catalog. and really Phil ? not available in america? really ?

― george gosset (gegoss), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 00:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

Damnit, I was all psyched to get some of the 'rarum' comps, and then I see that they're not coming out in the U.S. until late May. Oh well, at least they're getting released here.

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 31 January 2004 18:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

S:
Meredith Monk - Turtle Dreams
AMM - It Was An Ordinary Day In Pueblo Colorado

― Russ, Monday, 2 February 2004 15:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

The zenith of ECM:

[img]http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd900/d999/d99906r2msg.jpg[/img]

― Aloyius, Monday, 2 February 2004 15:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

That'll be Crystal Silence (Chick Corea/Gary Burton)

― Aloysius, Monday, 2 February 2004 15:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

anyone mentioned Robin Kenyatta's Girl from Martinique yet? OMG so dope! Not really "ECMy" at all, though.

― angel duster, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 00:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, good call. That is a nice album. Completely forgot about that one.

― Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 00:18 (9 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

Trombonist Julian Priester's two LPs for ECM in the 70s were great atmospheric jazz/funk records.

"Trance" by Steve Kuhn is also excellent.

― Etienne Menu (Etienne), Thursday, 5 August 2004 11:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

I'm listening to a 1999 record by John Abercrombie called "Open Land." It has Mark Feldman, Kenny Wheeler, Joe Lovano, Dan Wall, and Adam Nussbaum.

― Keywords: revenge, knife, granddaughter, demonic-possession, rock-star, eel (Aus, Thursday, 18 May 2006 15:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

Gary Burton - New Quartet, Passengers, Ring, Dream So Real
Eberhard Weber - Silent Feet, Little Movements, Fluid Rustle, Later that Evening, Pendulum

I've picked up on all of these ECM releases in the last year or so and have enjoyed each of them. Not every record is perfect, but there is some great stuff in there.

The best two Burton records are Passengers and Ring, where Weber guests in his band as a second bassist. Some of the lineups on the Burton records are pretty unique with two electric guitarists (one on 12 string), sometimes two basses, Burton on vibes and a drummer. It is electric jazz, but not really fusion compared to stuff like Weather Report or Mahavishnu.

I've really liked Eberhard Weber's stuff, it is an odd mix of jazz and that minimalist symphonic music like Steve Reich or Phillip Glass. The records sound pretty contemporary sounding considering they are 20-30 years old, in fact some of the more Reich styled pieces would not sound out of place on a Tortoise record. Bill Frisell and Jan Garbarek guest on Little Movements. Pendulum is a Weber overdubbed bass orchestra record. It is a pretty unique sounding record. Overall, it may not be hot and swinging jazz, but I think Weber made some interesting records. The guy pretty much just works as a sideman for the last ten or twelve years or so with Jan Garbarek and hasn't put out but a couple of albums.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:46 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'm all about the pretentious stately glacier music on ECM that y'all dislike so much, so I'll add a hearty Search for Anouar Brahem, Tord Gustavsen, Christian Wallumrod, Keith Jarrett's Dark Intervals and Sacred Hymns, Dino Paluzzi, and Tomasz Stanko.

On the non-glacier front, Jon Balke & Batagraf's new album blows me away.

Destroy: Heiner Goebbels. Tried, tried, and tried to get into his work, but it didn't happen.

― Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

I love Lester Bowie's stuff -- my fave of his ECMs is "I Only Have Eyes for You," which is thrilling.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 19 May 2006 00:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

i have one terje rypdal album, it's pretty good.

― gear (gear), Friday, 19 May 2006 00:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

The one that is just titled Terje Rypdal, Jack DeJohnette and Miroslave Vitous is quite good. Rypdal has a nice clear and watery sound. I need to get another one of his records.

I've got Thimar by Anouar Brahem which has Dave Holland and John Surman, but have only given it a couple of full plays. It hasn't really stuck with me either way.

I've also got a few of the Rarum collections including the one on The Art Ensemble of Chicago, Bill Frisell and Jan Garbarek. I think the Art Ensemble is the best of the three. I like the real icy stuff on the Garbarek album, but some of the I guess world fusion/classical kind of music I did not really get. The Frisell one is also a good listen.

Another ECM artist I have a couple of records by that are pretty good are John Abercrombie's Timeless and a couple of the Gateway trio records with Jack DeJohnette and Dave Holland. Cinematic Orchestra must like some Abercrombie, as I think they sampled him a couple of times.

I would like to hear some of Paul Motian's trio albums with Frisell and Joe Lovano. I'd also like to get Ralph Towner's "Solstice".

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 19 May 2006 03:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

'universal syncopations' by miroslav vituous is pretty great, and 'suspended night' by tomasz stanko is really great.

― omar little, Friday, 14 September 2007 06:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

any more good shit of recent vintage to check out?

― omar little, Monday, 28 September 2009 04:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

― Squash weather (Eazy), Monday, 28 September 2009 17:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'll rep for that whole album, as well as Lloyd's "Sangam".

― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 28 September 2009 17:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 28 September 2009 17:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

all of dave holland's stuff.

nik bartsch's ronin is pretty decent (not much improvising, very rhythmic, minimal loops in odd-time signatures bumping up against each other, would be good for soundtracking a david mamet movie).

― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Monday, 28 September 2009 17:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't think Holland's on ECM these days though, at least not for "Overtime" (his best from recent years IMO) onward.

― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 28 September 2009 17:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh, you're right

― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Monday, 28 September 2009 17:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:46 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark

^^^
These records are really beautiful. I just put on Yellow Fields.

― ojo, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 03:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

New Valentin Silvestrov album "Sacred Works" on the ECM New Series is tearfully, wonderfully awesome! Kiev Chamber Choir conducted by Mykola Hobdych doing liturgical chants, spirituals, psalms... Picked it up on a whim today from our sadly struggling local classical music specialist and am so pleased I did. Oh wow.

― krakow, Thursday, 12 November 2009 00:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

I have Silvestrov's "Requiem For Larissa" already, but will definitely be going back to order the rest of his ECM stuff now.

Also picked up a copy of the new ECM catalogue, which makes for very nice idle browsing.

― krakow, Thursday, 12 November 2009 00:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

Wow, hadn't heard Silvestrov before. Gorgeous. Thank you

― Bangelo, Thursday, 12 November 2009 00:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'm curious about this album:

― scott seward, Thursday, 12 November 2009 04:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

cuz i love the cover basically. but also cuz i see it described as jazz/krautrock.

― scott seward, Thursday, 12 November 2009 04:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

scott, u can download from here if you're interested
http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2008/08/wolfgang-dauner-output-lp-1970-germany.html

― jaxon, Thursday, 12 November 2009 05:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

this julian priester album "love love" is so so so fucking amazing. side long heavy heavy funky spacey jazz. kinda like mwandishi

― jaxon, Thursday, 12 November 2009 05:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

I only have an MP3 of the title track but it is awesome...one of the best ECMs.

― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 12 November 2009 18:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

Where should I look, within the the ECM catalogue, for other cool laptop fusion as in this year's Jon Hassell album?

― Deliquescing (Derelict), Thursday, 12 November 2009 18:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

the second side of that preister isn't as good. i mean, it's cool, but a lot looser and not as funky.

― jaxon, Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'm curious about this album:
cuz i love the cover basically. but also cuz i see it described as jazz/krautrock.

It's excellent

― I Poxy the Fule (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

cool. i will listen. i just got a TON of ecm stuff i've never heard, so i'll report back.

don't have a copy anymore, but i remember digging this record. i'm not a braxton expert either, so don't know where it rates for his fans.

― scott seward, Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

One more recommendation for Valentin Silvestrov. Specially for Leggiero, Pessante. The Postludium pieces are gorgeous.

― Moka, Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

2nd the upthread recommendation for marion brown "afternoon of a georgia faun." it's great. mellow, twinkly improv.

― ian, Thursday, 12 November 2009 19:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

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Dunno any of his other stuff at all, so it might not be all that compared to the rest of his oeuvre. I do know he's Kate Bush's bass player though.

― cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Friday, 17 June 2011 10:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

sweet - I always admired the Pastorius-ish tones of the bass on some of KB's records (esp. Sensual World) so I'd def be interested in hearing this guy.

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 17 June 2011 11:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Well Mick Karn and John Giblin are also on that so it could be them, Weber's on double bass.

― cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Friday, 17 June 2011 11:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

Giblin's got a funny discog btw, he was the bass player on Scott Walker's Tilt AND Chris De Burgh's Lady In Red.

― cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Friday, 17 June 2011 11:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

If anybody wants to hear some of the Villalobos thing I've thrown a few track up on http://outloud.fm/ILXORS

― MaresNest, Friday, 17 June 2011 12:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

thanks - tho I meant a physical copy!
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 17 June 2011 10:34 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I had a feeling you meant that as soon as I posted it.

― Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Friday, 17 June 2011 13:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

11 months pass...

I've been exploring ECM releases recently with some help from this thread (and the other one). So far I've picked up John Abercrombie's "Gateway" and Eberhard Weber's "Colors of Chloe", both of which are exactly the sort of thing I was looking for - atmospheric, pretty but with enough going on to save them from being background music. "Gateway" is a bit more fusion-y, and "Chloe" is more minimalist, but both are great.

― o. nate, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:03 (11 months ago) Permalink

if you like calm, impressionist, folk-based jazz with a world touch i'd recommend anouar brahem, eg conte de l'incroyable amour. brahem is a tunisian oud player and the sound of his music is rather restrained and slightly oriental. one of the best on ecm these days.

― alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:29 (11 months ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

Revive this. I just discovered the entire ECM catalog is on Mog.

― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 10 March 2013 19:07 (2 months ago) Permalink

The first record by Rainer Brüninghaus, Eberhard Weber's keyboardist in Colors, is awesome. Kenny Wheeler and Jon Christiansen. No bass!

― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 11 March 2013 12:40 (2 months ago) Permalink

Other finds via MOG:

Azimuth -- Kenny Wheeler, Norma Winstone on cox and John Taylor on piano and Berlin-sounding EMS arpeggios. 1977! Pieces of this feel like Klaus Schulze and Joni Mitchell getting high on a mountaintop somewhere.

Jack DeJohnette and John Surman -- The Amazing Adventures of Simon Simon. More synths -- this time with bass clarinet and congas. Very cool.

Barre Phillps -- Mountainscapes. Yet more synths!! Feisty and swinging, synths provide atmosphere and texture for John Surman to bounce off. Again: 1976.

Keith Jarrett -- Spheres. Another record which has traces of Krautrock, and from the most unlikely of places. "Spheres, 9th Movement" sounds like something from Tangerine Dream before they left Ohr. Not thinking the similarities are intentional.

Eberhard Weber -- The Following Morning. In the non-electronic ECM edition, this comes w Rainer Brüninghaus on piano, but no percussion, just orchestra. Big fan of Weber's Pendulum as well, which is overdubbed bass -- which in his case is awesome, not horrifying.

― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 16 March 2013 19:06 (2 months ago) Permalink

Spheres has just been reissued; was sent a link to download it. Maybe now I will.

― 誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 16 March 2013 21:08 (2 months ago) Permalink

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