rfi:dalek (dark new jersey hip hop or something)

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When I interviewed Oktopus after "From Filthy Tongues of Gods and Griots," we talked about New Kingdom. He hadn't ever heard them, but mentioned that they get that comparison a lot and was flattered to eb associated with anything Scott Harding was involved with. Boy, New Kingdom were great!

ng, Saturday, 26 February 2005 13:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Ned, you really need to hear the last track on Negro Nekro Necros.

charlie va (charlie va), Saturday, 26 February 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

he needs to hear all of negro nekro necros, if he hasn't.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 26 February 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link

It's out about now isn't it? Or does all the Ipecac stuff get released a few months earlier in the States.

It came out Feb 8 in the US.

Vic Funk, Saturday, 26 February 2005 23:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Weird, the AMG dates indicated a 2004 release -- and the rip had tags that said 7-16-04.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 26 February 2005 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I put it on my P&J ballot because I got my copy in November or so, and it came with a press release with all these reviews that had already run, so I assumed it had been out a few weeks by the time I got it. Apparently the release date was Feb. 8, though.

charlie va (charlie va), Sunday, 27 February 2005 01:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Dalek are great; never heard anything like them. I saw them on a bill with Radio 4 and Ted Leo, so here were all these skinny white kids with thick frames waiting around, when these 3 african-american fellows stepped on stage looking like they were there to move around some speakers. Then, all of a sudden, this literally THICK fucking sheet of sound blasted out of the amps. You honestly could feel the wall of staticky, beaten-down sound. Intense stuff. Angry. Pissed off. But really fucking cool. (Does get a little tiring after a while....they only played maybe 5 songs and the feedback never abated. But it was amazing).

PB, Sunday, 27 February 2005 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Bump in honor of Gutter Tactics. I haven't heard the others, but I'm feeling this one.

Brad C., Saturday, 31 January 2009 01:48 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

THIS SHIT IS ALL-TIME

acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

you're going to systematically ruin every band i like, huh

batlike darkwing cartoonduck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link

if by 'systematically ruin' you mean 'bump ILX threads of to praise' then yeah fuck you're in for a rough ride

acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link

you say that my enthusiastic bumps are frequently contentless but dude if I analysed the awesome musical narratives and fucked sonics of this group to any depth you'd hate it even more, trust

acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

what I wanna know is how it's taken until now for me to hear it, and on the recommendation of my brother, instead of one of you august critics

acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Love these guys. I wrote a glowing review of Absence for Static Multimedia way back when. I'd link to it, but its sort of embarrassing to re-read now as it was like one of the first published reviews I ever wrote.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Heard Abandoned Language first; mind moderately blown. Now on Absence and holy shitting Christ.

acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

what I wanna know is how it's taken until now for me to hear it, and on the recommendation of my brother, instead of one of you august critics

― acoleuthic, Thursday, April 1, 2010 6:06 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you just gotta keep up w/ me

http://nymag.com/arts/popmusic/features/61881/

batlike darkwing cartoonduck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

also, stop posting

batlike darkwing cartoonduck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

dude quit bitchin', marry yr gf and have a fucken baby or 3

acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

never got into these dudes' recordings that much but saw them a couple of times at my college and they were great live, so loud and oppressive. the first time they opened for paul barman at a frat house (LOL) and blew him off the "stage" (of course). the second time, my pseudo-no wave band opened for them at the on-campus fake bar/venue. we were pretty bad.

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 2 April 2010 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link

LOL apparently I posted about that show like eight years ago:

They are totally kick-ass and extremely loud. Not traditional hip-hop by any means. Very dense and scary sounding. My band opened for them here last week. They are indeed very nice people. As soon as I walked in the door, the producer guy, Octopus, started talking to me and talked my ear off (in a nice way) for about 20 minutes about Ipecac and Mike Patton and all kinds of stuff. Go for it.

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, November 7, 2002 8:58 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I have been on ILX a long time.

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 2 April 2010 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i cringed when i ctrl-f'd myself on this thread but apparently i never posted on it. i remember having negro necro nekros (had to wiki the title of that) but never heard anything after that.

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 2 April 2010 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link

not only is this music super-awesome but it is also a surefire 100% guaranteed way to annoy one's parents - I don't think there's been any other music of mine which has had them coming in and telling me to turn it the fuck down with quite this fervour

acoleuthic, Friday, 2 April 2010 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Absence and holy shitting Christ

is this really the name of one of their albums

ain't no thang but a chicken ㅋ (dyao), Friday, 2 April 2010 12:39 (fourteen years ago) link

and his parents thought they had it bad with the chris ofili prints

nakhchivan, Friday, 2 April 2010 12:42 (fourteen years ago) link

^what we mere mortals must wiki

acoleuthic, Friday, 2 April 2010 13:16 (fourteen years ago) link

i remember having negro necro nekros (had to wiki the title of that) but never heard anything after that.

― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 2 April 2010 03:36 (9 hours ago) Permalink

It's their least good release by some distance imo

also want to echo assertion(s) above that they are super nice and funny ppl in my experience

artfuckoleuthic (DJ Mencap), Friday, 2 April 2010 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link

i really do think they are making some of the most important music of our time, and will prolly be remembered fondly like Art Ensemble Of Chicago or the Feelies in 20 yrs.

batlike darkwing cartoonduck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 2 April 2010 14:20 (fourteen years ago) link

yay two more bands for me to systematically destroy!

acoleuthic, Friday, 2 April 2010 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link

LJ, if you haven't made it this far back into the Dälek catalogue, these are both from their first/second album (depending whether you consider Negro Necro Nekros their debut album or a preceding EP) and are absolutely brilliant slabs of hip-hop/fucked sonics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVhIA-YH-7w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9rs9PSG9qE

Did I mention this is one of the most incredible closing 1-2 punches on any album, ever?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 2 April 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I still need to get that album! Nor did I ever get around the Gutter Tactics, how is that one? The EP and the other two full-lengths are fantastic.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 2 April 2010 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Haven't heard Gutter Tactics yet. Assume it's great, as most everything else they've released falls along the great-to-incredible axis.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 3 April 2010 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link

LOL way ahead of you ilxor (sorry to repost from 77 but has to be done):

all that stuff is very important obv

'from filthy tongue', i can confirm, is amazing. 'black smoke rises' was about as awesome as i was always gonna think it was but the real stunners are the last two tracks, especially 'forever close my eyes'...holy shit.

the only (very minor) problem i can see myself having with dalek is the occasional over-reliance upon that 'when the levee breaks' beat but fuck it's still thrilling

― acoleuthic, Friday, 2 April 2010 01:12 (Yesterday) Bookmark

acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 12:22 (fourteen years ago) link

http://nymag.com/arts/popmusic/features/61881/

i know if it weren't for you and "sucka pants" i'd be lost.

scott seward, Saturday, 3 April 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

btw whiney, notice the complete absence of hateration - ILX has changed for the better - this shit is 100% legit

acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link

you've misjudged who'll be the ones looking like sad morons, 'cause it sure as hell won't be the people getting all enthusiastic about music 'cause they, y'know, like it

acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean i seriously can't stop listening to 'absence' on repeat - last track 'opiate the masses' especially is what RATM fucking SHOULD sound like

acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link

that's kinda like saying: bad bands should make good music! i mean, they probably would if they could. in the meantime, just listen to good music.

scott seward, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i like these dudes but their website is called deadverse.com

alt-3, gold & silver (Lamp), Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

haha scott i knew i'd said something a bit leading there but i mean it takes the sorta heavy-rap-loudness-protest-thumping ideal of RATM, at least as i hear them, and executes it infinitely better

acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

also searching ilx for 'undie' threads or w/e = world and worlds and worlds of pain, which mysteriously end about 3 years ago - seriously so glad ilx got over itself :)

acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

ilx poster acoleuthic what mike ladd albums have u listened 2

alt-3, gold & silver (Lamp), Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

none but my clowning alert sensors are at red

acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

i love dalek. feel kinda bad that i haven't kept up though with the last album. heck, maybe even the last two albums. can't remember. but they are great.

scott seward, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

lj, you should check out the last clouddead album. ten. came out in 2004. i really liked it.

scott seward, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

opening track of 'abandoned language' is a thing of beauty - if i were to make a BoC comparison wd people get pissy - don't care tbh

and yeah people are telling me to hear clouddead - think i'll get on it

acoleuthic, Saturday, 3 April 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

sometimes I worry that in 20 years cLOUDDEAD/Subtle/etc. will be remembered as super-dorky prog-rap and my kids will mock me for loving it

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Saturday, 3 April 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link

(not that that should stop you, looj)

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Saturday, 3 April 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link

dose one et al are super-dorky prog-rap, love them for what they are or not at all

ogmor, Monday, 5 April 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link

nah mike ladd has some jams

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

from The Future Is Now! thread:
Co-produced, -generated by Momim of Dalek and trombonist Rick Parker (who's worked with Tim Berne, Mingus Big Band, Wu Tang, baby): bluesy, spacious, sometimes hungover hornorities meet bracing beats, working through strata of data under Polar stars (ain't no sunshine; none needed). Salt and tackle provided, tronic taxonomies left 2 U: (if could only pick one: "Safar," with searchlight phasing; if had to flush one: "Nanotronic")
https://wondermachine.bandcamp.com/album/a-fire-of-flowers-grows-around-us

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dow, Monday, 23 November 2015 23:47 (eight years ago) link

https://f1.bcbits.com/img/a4225398947_16.jpg

dow, Monday, 23 November 2015 23:48 (eight years ago) link

oh fuck that gig was enormous

ogmor you're in for a treat. mc dälek himself assured me they'd kill it up there "plus we haven't played there in a minute" so they've got a new crowd to impress

goes without saying that their beats are the best beats but the dude's flow is visceral

avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 00:35 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

the new track is incredible, so hyped for the album

imago, Friday, 23 June 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

yes, yes the album is great

imago, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 13:31 (six years ago) link

four years pass...

Nice new overview piece at Bandcamp

https://daily.bandcamp.com/lists/dalek-album-guide

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

The album with Faust is one of the most amazing things ever.

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

Seeing them tonight but having investigated the support act, not only does it have a member of Dalek in it, but their debut album is out today and is sick as hell, electro-noise rock of a very high order

https://holyscum.bandcamp.com/album/strange-desires

imago, Friday, 10 June 2022 13:41 (one year ago) link

!!! Thanks for the word on that.
I posted link to this brief take upthread, but Voice changed links again, so here tis from my own archive, taking this approach as far as I ever did, mending ways later (Voicewise), but meant to convey unusual listening experience:

Karma Sutures
Ancient Teutonic drone-rockers take on Jersey art-hoppers
October 5th, 2004 4:50 PM Issue 40

Faust vs. Dalek
Derbe Respecte, Alder
Staubgold

Not so long ago, a young Jersey trio of prodigious mad hiphopologists, Dalek,
undertook a European tour. How they suffered! Until rescued by an old German
kombo of legendary mad progologists, Faust. Transcription of (ob)session
follows:
Facedown bass-clown chews through plaster cast appeal and last appeals.
Artillery fire falls like fossils, into single phylum. Spinal columns of beats
stack, driven home, bent high; remixing bricks, carpets, and windows. In some
crumbling rumble's scratch, soundbeast crawls on. Barrel tongues roll years.
Inventory takes itself, junkyard ripples like hide riding a horsefly:
Groovation gathers. A thin blue flame suspends, not unlike the aural aura of organist
Larry Young, but he died long ago. Miles and Jimi never played together, but
he played with them both. It is also not unlike the gas-jet flame Miles's
autobio claimed to be his earliest memory, seen across a field of whitest stove
top. Atmosphere waits out the needle of such a tiny thrill. But its point has
been made. And if the listener's ear-hole cherry should regrow itself, sealing
feeling? Well. CDs last a while. This one will be waiting.

dow, Friday, 10 June 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

Followed by this for the collegetown local:

Dalek
Thursday @ the Ravari Room
The cliché tag of “underground” rap is right for Dalek’s pungent layers of sound, which earned them an album-length collaboration with prog pioneers Faust. On their first three albums, they pushed the layers up into towers of rubble, recycling old wars, civilizations, and other lost causes. On 2007’s Abandoned Language, they scrape away the noise, and direct an “Isolated Stare” up at hovering, glittering sounds, through a fractured glass ceiling of frustration. But they persist, rapping and playing over stoically-to-angrily swinging beats. They’re reputedly a formidable live act too.

dow, Friday, 10 June 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

But also, I need to post a correction: the Tarana album I linked upthread in 2015 involves Ravish Momin, not Dalek's Alap Momin. It's really good, though,and seemed like it had some Dalek appeal.

dow, Friday, 10 June 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link


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