Rolling Classical 2012

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The justly lauded Kertesz/London one has had a ton of different reissues-- see which one has a libretto and get that,is my advice.

this update fixes the following known sugs (Jon Lewis), Monday, 29 October 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

liking this

http://www.pacificaquartet.com/recordings.php?albumName=shostakovich%201,2,3,4

also this ed. of sonatas and interludes by cage

http://www.dustedmagazine.com/reviews/7442

apparently there's another out this year too..

j., Tuesday, 30 October 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link

Franck's harmonic sensibilities rarely work for me.

Hmmm. Do you like any of the late chamber pieces? Franck is one my favorite composers - would recommend the String Quartet in D and the Quintet in F minor.

timellison, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 01:32 (eleven years ago) link

the constant roving chromaticism can make his music seem restless but that doesn't preclude my enjoyment

happy little (clouds), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link

can anyone recommend a recording of bartok's 'bluebeard's castle'? i'd quite like one that includes the libretto....

Get a dvd! Easier to watch than read.. I recommend this one
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bluebeards-Castle-London-Philharmonic-Orchestra/dp/B0011WMWWU/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1351561144&sr=1-1

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i got the kertesz/london recording of "bluebeard's castle" (with libretto), as recommended by jon; it's amazing. the first time i've enjoyed opera. hoping it's maybe a gateway...

cb, Thursday, 15 November 2012 11:30 (eleven years ago) link

can anyone recommend a good recording of Delius' powerful joyous climactic choral stuff which I have seen a couple of times on TV programmes but never taken down the name of the pieces ?
All I can find on spotify is more pastoral ( cartoon deer prancing through woods with bluebirds, that kinda thing)
hopefully someone who knows something can advise.

thomasintrouble, Thursday, 15 November 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link

requiem, a mass of life, sea-drift, songs of sunset (look for the vernon handley recordings)

C:\GAMES\KEEN\KEEN4E.EXE (clouds), Thursday, 15 November 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

ace, thank you so much. I'll do some youtube digging and then look for the recording you recommend.

thomasintrouble, Thursday, 15 November 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

It's hard to know what you heard; Delius deployed chorus in a variety of ways. Was it chorus unaccompanied or orchestra with chorus? Here are some stabs in the dark:

Appalachia - This is a long orchestral work in variation form which brings in the chorus for a big finale ("Honey I am goin' down the river in the mornin'/Hey-oh hey-oh down the mighty river..."). It's based on a spiritual tune from the american south. I recommend Mackerras or Barbirolli for this.

Song Of The High Hills - Probably the most sublime, mysterious & evanescent thing Delius ever did. The apex of his pantheist mode. Mostly orchestral; the chorus is used as a wordless element of the instrumental fabric a la Debussy's Nocturnes. Recommend Mackerras, Fenby or Bo Holten for this.

A Mass Of Life - This is much more choral-centered in the oratorio style. Big and lumbering, with text drawn from Nietzsche's Zarathustra, it was supposed to be a kind of atheist's mass. I've never clicked with this piece. People usually recommend Hickox for it.

Songs of Sunset/Songs of Farewell - These are structured like songs but the chorus carries a lot of the weight. Extremely chromatic, to a fault if you ask me, but they include some heart-piercing moments. Hickox with Bryn Terfel and Sally Burgess is a good choice for these.

Sea Drift - Included on the same Hickox disc with the previous item, this is a fantastic setting of a Whitman poem about sad seagulls for solo voice plus chorus and orchestra. Definitely deserves its status as a greatest hit.

Also, to roll with Delius at all you're gonna have to come to grips with the pastoralist thing. Replace the cartoon deer and bluebirds with the real thing and get inside their skins; this kind of aural nature poetry was not a quaint picture postcard thing for Delius but a subject of the deepest intensity.

(By the way C I think you mean Hickox not Handley? Handley did his share of Delius but not much of the choral stuff iirc?)

multiple decades of jazz (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 15 November 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

ha yes, you're right. was mixing up my chandos regulars.

C:\GAMES\KEEN\KEEN4E.EXE (clouds), Thursday, 15 November 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

and your post is wonderfully informative. will have to do some delving.

C:\GAMES\KEEN\KEEN4E.EXE (clouds), Thursday, 15 November 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link

my love for the Arbiter label is strong - every time I put on something from them, it's the right thing, hiss and all.

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

Webern, Beethoven, Kurtag

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

Cesar Franck continues to frustrate and confound us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOtejkH8jjw

a funny thing happened on the way to the forum (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 24 November 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

The last 1:30 of the last movement of Shostakovich's last symphony: one of my favorite passages of music ever.

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

there is some shitty programme about westminster abbey on tv and all the choirboys are auditioning for the soloist in allegri's miserere and oh god this kid's voice just cuts out for the high c

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Monday, 10 December 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

same programme had zadok the priest all over it and now i can't stop playing zadok the gd priest so i downloaded a couple of oratorios but none of them remotely approximate that awed stately plaintively phasing intro or or the sudden choral exultation (the second half of zadok is no good)

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 14 December 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link

will try to find that

clouds, Friday, 14 December 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link

Recs for watching Don Giovanni on Netflix DVD or streaming?

Johnny Hotcox, Saturday, 15 December 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

Just got a CD of Philip Glass music - "Metamorphosis" and some selections from Glassworks and the score to The Hours performed on harp by Lavinia Meijer. Pretty nice. Here's a bit of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_54NQciqofU

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 15 December 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

To bring this thread (almost) full cycle - this is out a week today: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sibelius-Complete-Symphonies-Tapiola-Finlandia/dp/B0091JQH2Q/

Terabytes of FLACS of screaming (Call the Cops), Monday, 31 December 2012 12:06 (eleven years ago) link

Oh that's great! Cheap too! Shame they are not including Kullervo but that Bournemouth recording has already been available for a while.

The Berglund/Bournemouth team is almost always worth hearing. Their Shostakovich 10 and 11, Vaughan Williams 4 and 6, and sibelius Kullervo are all close to top choices IMO. So I'll want to hear these Sib symphonies.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Monday, 31 December 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

Is there a new thread? (long time reader, first time poster)

flag this post and die (roxymuzak), Sunday, 6 January 2013 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

the 'an attempt at a...' thread is v active right now and for the last couple weeks!

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 January 2013 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

Rued Langgaard's Music Of The Spheres for the first time--a new recording is out conducted by Dausgaard--and was bowled over

from the bowls of ILM, I resurrect this thread to say this is indeed an amazing piece. Watched a youtube of Per Norgard saying he'd slipped this score to Ligeti in 1968, without L's knowledge of Langgaard's music, and Ligeti immediately confessed to a sudden realization of seemingly having been "influenced" by it. Tone clusters, weird, repetitive motifs, harmony that goes even further than Debussy in its total disregard for typical tension/release. The only thing that really gives it away as being a kind of Romantic tone poem is Strauss-y/Wagnerian orchestration. (It also reminds me a bit of Sibelius' later stuff which might support further Norgard connections)

Dominique, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link

Is it OK if I c&p this to the thread I just started: Rolling Classical (Late 2015-)

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 December 2015 20:29 (eight years ago) link


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