we need the worst celebraties to pretend to be republicans as a covert op
― iatee, Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link
cannot imagine how horrible it must be to watch tv in florida ohio and virginia right now
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link
I hate that the campaigns discovered Hulu. Can't skip that shit.
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
if you use ad block it just shows you a black screen begging you to turn ad block off
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
romnmentum kaput http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/25/oct-24-in-polls-romneys-momentum-seems-to-have-stopped
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
BTW on behalf of Ohio I apologize in advance for whatever happens here.
Every day on my way home I go right past the county board of elections building, and there are a LOT of people doing early voting, every day.
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
Some items that are meant to be real but come off as parodies:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/12928_4602012175566_1447120646_n.jpg
As well as
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0OomdFloKI
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
Man, that eagle isn't even crying. What a waste of effort.
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
its funny because romney is the one who brought up big bird
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
re that linkabait conor friedersdorf piece from a while back where he refused to endorse obama because drone strikes and instead went w/the gold standard guy
An economic depression would kill a lot more innocent people than Obama's drone strike program. Economic performance isn't just about money -- it's about people's ability to feed and house themselves and to obtain health care. Economic instability also feeds social and political unrest and can lead to violence and war. William Jennings Bryan had this right: Monetary policy is a moral issue and proposing to crucify mankind on a cross of gold is a "deal-breaker" for me.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-25/the-presidential-candidate-who-would-destroy-the-economy.html
health care reform also
― iatee, Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
nah I would put my money on dc statehood. it can happen whenever the dems control congress and feel like going for the power grab. and the gains are much more obvious.― iatee, Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:43 PM (42 minutes ago)
― iatee, Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:43 PM (42 minutes ago)
can you imagine the level of "throw the bums out" spent too much time in washington incoherent rage this would create in the other states tho? seems like a one way PR disaster ticket to a complete congressional turnover.
― I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
nah I think the rage would be 100% partisan, democrats would quickly agree that a place w/ more people than wyoming should have representation, republicans would all quickly agree that this is the biggest injustice in human history. I actually think they mentioned this in their platform?
― iatee, Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
dc certainly wouldnt be throwing the bums out B-)
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
btw most gangster licence plate
http://i.imgur.com/RF6Vt.jpg
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha ive never seen that before
― I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
its so good, maybe not quite as good as live free or die, but still
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
so they unsealed the staples divorce records. when do we find out what's in them?
― Mordy, Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
I hate live free or die, it's so randian
― iatee, Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but come on a licence plate that mentions death, you got to give up the props
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
all license plates imply death cause they are on cars
― iatee, Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
i just spent a couple minutes trying to make the dc one into a die hard movie title to give it the leg up but i got nothing
― I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
" The nation's capital city, a special responsibility of the federal government, belongs both to its residents and to all Americans, millions of whom visit it every year. D.C.'s Republicans have been in the forefront of exposing and combating the chronic corruption among the city's top Democratic officials. We join their call for a non-partisan elected Attorney General to clean up the city's political culture and for congressional action to enforce the spirit of the Home Rule Act assuring minority representation on the City Council. After decades of inept one-party rule, the city's structural deficit demands congressional attention. We oppose statehood for the District of Columbia. "
2012 gop platform
― iatee, Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
the DC license plate is probably the best in the country
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
― iatee, Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:42 AM (51 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
to drive w/death is to truly have lived
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/the-momentum-myth/2012/10/25/f7fc67a6-1eaf-11e2-8817-41b9a7aaabc7_blog.html
The first group is made up of truly independent, and undecided, voters. Most of them don’t pay very much attention at all to politics. Eventually, they will vote one way or another (at least if they vote), but they may be the most likely to swing between “undecided” and that candidate depending on what’s currently in the news. This create the impression of momentum, but the effect will be short lived, rather than continuous. The second group is made up of voters who have actually decided but move in and out of “likely voter” screens, or even in and out of answering surveys at all, depending on their enthusiasm for the election and their candidate at any given moment. This can create a temporary “surge” in likely-voter support for one candidate that isn’t actually long term momentum in his or her favor. The third group is made up of so-called undecided voters whose ultimate decision is basically predictable. Thanks to the campaign, they end up “learning” to vote for the candidate they might have expected to support all along. For example, there are those voters who insist that they are independent, yet always just happen to wind up supporting the same party. For them, the high-intensity portions of the campaign in which they are exposed to “their” party’s message will often be sufficient to permanently move them from undecided to decided. That can create a bump for a candidate — and the appearance of momentum — but once it’s done, it’s done. There’s no reason to expect it to build on itself.
In all these three cases, shifts happen when the information environment strongly favors one candidate or the other — such as when a party’s (successful) convention is running, or if a candidate is perceived to have decisively won a debate. The key thing, then, is that “momentum” is only likely to last as long as information favoring one candidate continues to dominate the news. And that almost never happens, because the press usually wants to move on to a new story.
For the first two groups, it’s likely that the effect will wear off rapidly once press coverage shifts, as it almost always does. By contrast, for the third group, some of the gains from a “momentum” period are likely to be permanent conversions. But they would have ended up with that candidate, anyway.
― iatee, Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link
er that quote would work better if I included
It’s worth thinking about three groups of voters who might change the horse race polls.
― iatee, Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
convention bump is generally #3, so my theory is #3 ended up happening w/ first debate instead after shitty convention
― iatee, Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
― I'M THE ONLY ON (jjjusten), Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:43 AM (16 minutes ago)
taxation without representation harder
― space dokken (Edward III), Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
If DC and New Hampshire have the most badass license plate mottos, Idaho's is the least:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/61/Idaho_license_plate_-_passenger_baseplate_-_2008.jpg
― joygoat, Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
haha FAMOUS POTATOES
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
Would move to ID if they had a plate that said "Guess I'm Just a Spudboy"
― WilliamC, Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
iirc the dc license plate was approved by clinton on his way out in 99 as a fuck you to bush and the gop
― johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
he put those plates on the presidential motorcade iirc, Bush switched them back
― www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
to the "Celebrate and Discover" ones
Picturing an anthropomorphized Idaho with hands in pockets, kicking the dirt, and muttering "Famous potatoes" under its breath before sighing heavily.
― Gary Mayonnaise (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
Gallup is much closer again. Obama up among registered voters, Romney up among likely.
― timellison, Thursday, 25 October 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
I know Colin Powell will be mostly despised on here, but I'm again glad of this:
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/10/john-mccain-lashes-out-at-colin-powell-after-obama-endorsement.php?ref=fpb
Endorsements almost always mean nothing. But I think Kennedy's was important in '08, and Powell's too, coming right near the end. This year's won't mean as much, but in a real close election, it may make a tiny sliver of difference.
― clemenza, Thursday, 25 October 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
And if it infuriates John McCain, all the better.
― clemenza, Thursday, 25 October 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
I think that John McCain ought to commit sepuku on the Capitol steps as a protest against Colin Powell's endorsement.
― Aimless, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think his arms can accomplish that
― iatee, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
gop talking point is to call o's foreign policy 'feckless' - does this test well amongst angry white people? is it dog whistling at all or am I seeing something thats not there?
― johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
it just sounds a little like you're saying "fuck" and that makes angry people happy
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
he has no more fecks to give
― Mordy, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
does this test well amongst angry white people?
It's a good question and I wouldn't be sure that it does. It's not like the economic issue, where people are holding on to conservative ideology and convinced that Obama is taxing them to the hilt. I haven't seen a lot of people angry about the fact that we haven't been more aggressive about Syria or Iran.
― timellison, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
mccain is quietly appealing to clash fans, fits with his romney can't fail slogan
― space dokken (Edward III), Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
mccain was speaking in code to people who think that "feckless" means "dickless".
― Aimless, Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
had a nightmare last night in which I was watching a tv station that was broadcasting romney's state-by-state wins on election night
― 乒乓, Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
like I woke up and was like, oh, election day is still a week and a half away
― 乒乓, Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
haha i had that one too the other night.
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link