1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! - VOTING THREAD! Closes Mar 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

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A Roussos and Animal Collective collab would be great

wk, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link

not that AC

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link

Alice Coltrane collab would be cool too. And Alice Cooper. Alex Chilton even. I suspect you're talking about a.... different AC though. ;)

wk, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 23:40 (eleven years ago) link

just imagine the song titles

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 23:41 (eleven years ago) link

poor roddy

whining boom (electricsound), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 23:42 (eleven years ago) link

Will be voting for solo Demis in the disco poll.

sug sug sputnik (seandalai), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link

I've seen a lot of talk about Yeti (rightfully so) but I'm getting through Tanz Der Lemminge right now and that album is a beast.

Non-Stop Erotic Calculus (bmus), Thursday, 25 October 2012 05:52 (eleven years ago) link

^real talk, Tanz is probably my single favorite Krautrock album

IMP of the perverse (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 25 October 2012 06:10 (eleven years ago) link

Those that were liking the Things Your Mother Never Told You album might want to check out Blatantly Offensive under Jayne County and The Electric Chairs, its equally underrated imo.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 25 October 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

i'm gonna campaign for MUSIC TO EAT by the hampton grease band. 1971. double album of goofy, sloppy punky jazz rock. this is buttrock. by frazzled nerd-weirdos. track times largely exceed 15 mins a piece. shouting. lyrics found in tourist brochures & on the sides of spray cans. monumentally WIGGY wigouts with out-of-nowhere asymmetrical unison heads a-rearin. how the flip they signalled these beyond me. cross-eyed-chicken-dance grooves. wilful stupidity. 5/7 gallops. BOOGIE. biting guitar tones. drum skins flap. fantastically indistinct 60's basstone insistently mangling the jazz-time. these guys were ITCHING. EPIC ephemera. commonly likened to capting beefart. i grew up w/ the captain, somehow i prefer this now.

iglu ferrignu, Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

I guess this is somewhat "canonical" for this poll/thread, but I just wanted to underline how SCORCHING the first Ash Ra Tempel album is. "Amboss" is 19 minutes of mindfuck, a brain slowly but violently turning itself inside-out. Schulze's drumming is incredibly powerful and propulsive, but unpredictable and intuitive; and Gottsching's guitar is all over the place. Just amazing stuff.

Clarke B., Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

lol @ a world where ash ra tempel is canonical

space dokken (Edward III), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

he's talking ILM-World

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

I am too

space dokken (Edward III), Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

they're no Taylor Swift, it's true.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

BTW, I finally picked up Satori. Lord almighty that's a cool-ass record.

Clarke B., Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

I'm putting my ballot together, and most of the stuff I'm excited about voting for doesn't really need campaigning for but I will through up a couple albums that might need help that absolutely rule:

http://www.echoes.dk/images/very.jpg

This was before they went full fantasy-nerd, it's just an amazingly classic hard rock album. I recommend highly you examine it before you write-off Uriah Heep completely...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/518EY2TMGYL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

This Thin Lizzy album doesn't get alot of cred or mention, but it's among my favorite albums of all time. It's a very very loose "concept" album but it never really ties together. It's got hard rockin' tracks, and it also has a few really awesome and really depressing blues rock ballads... like Borderline and the absolute classic Fool's Gold

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/37/Potlatch_%28album%29_cover.jpg

Redbone is an awesome rock band comprised of Native Americans. Their debut was a self-titled double LP that is awesome, but their second - Potlach - is probably their best album made in the 70s. It's very much a mix of funk and country rock that's got a lot of edginess. Ahead of the curve, they were writing songs about cocaine in 1970!

Ok, that's my campaigning so far. I might come up with others...
Oh yeah, laugh at me all you want but my favorite Who album is Quadrophrenia. It's going high on my ballot. If you've written it off without giving it a good listen I would recommend trying it again. It doesn't have the singles and hits of "Who's Next" but I think it stands the test of time very very well.

That's enough for now.

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

The only Heep I have is The Magician's Birthday, and I definitely need to remedy that; thanks for the reminder.

Clarke B., Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

Quadrophenia sucks even more than Tommy

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

IMO it sucks a lot less than Tommy... But I do agree that Tommy sucks.

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

i'm gonna campaign for MUSIC TO EAT by the hampton grease band

Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be on the spreadsheet... otherwise it would already be on my shortlist! Is the spreadsheet link on the OP still good or is there a newer updated one around? I think I remember the ol' HGB being nomminated...

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Thursday, 25 October 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

nm I found it in the T's as they are a "The ..." band.

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Thursday, 25 October 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

ok come join me in the ilxor soundrop room and listen to some of the nominations
http://open.soundrop.fm/s/W16fTbbsgjzuGhsN

to see the chat - just simply move your mouse to the right side of the screen and left click and that will bring up the chat box

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 25 October 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

6 people! but most havent signed into soundrop with their twitter or facebook log ins so cant chat/add/vote so please sign into soundrop!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5136o27zDcL._SS400_.jpg

Hawkwind – Hall Of the Mountain Grill (UA/One Way, 1974)
The double live album Space Ritual (1973) is certainly a great recap of Hawkwind's best up to that point. But it would be a huge mistake to ignore their next album, Hall Of The Mountain Grill, which finds them at their peak, balancing their guitar heavy space rock sound with futurist electronic keyboards and mellotrons. Their classic "Psychedelic Warlords (Disappear In Smoke)" and "D-Rider" sandwich "Wind Of Change," a moody electronic piece augmented by strings. Side two the highlights "You'd Better Believe It" and Lemmy's biker anthem "Lost Johnny," and closes with the dizzying psych freakout "Paradox." Warrior On The Edge Of Time (1975) also has highlights in "Assault & Battery," "The Golden Void" and "Magnu," and is Lemmy's last album with the band. But to me Mountain Grill, complete with sleeve art of the crushed hull of a spaceship crashed onto an alien planet shrouded in poison gasses, is Hawkwind's iconic peak.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

It's impossible for me to figure out which Hawkwind to vote for. I pretty much like the first 4 or 5 equally. Doremi Fasol Latido might have the edge though.

wk, Thursday, 25 October 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

I can't help but pledge my unending allegiance to Space Ritual. It so perfectly encapsulates my favorite era of Hawkwind it almost veers towards cliche.

If you are making love it is imperative to bring all bodies to orgasm simultaneously. Do not waste time blocking your ears. Do not waste time seeking a sound proof shelter.

That shit is hilarious...but yeah, Hall of The Mountain Grill is an awfully close runner up.

Non-Stop Erotic Calculus (bmus), Thursday, 25 October 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

Space Ritual will always be their magnum opus for me (although i love absolutely everything up until around 1978) but have just never entirely got why Hawk fans love Hall Of The Mountain Grill quite so much. Don't get me wrong, I like it too but Warrior always eclipses it to my ears (despite the ill advised and almost comical Moorcock interludes). The ecstatic mellotron / violin that bridges Assault & Battery and Golden Void is one of my most loved moments in all music. Opa Loka gives the motorik of Neu! a run for their money and Kings Of Speed out Motorheads Lost johnny, while Magnu remains one of their best and most considered ever studio constructions.

Still, Hall of.. has the better Barney Bubbles sleeve and the live recording in Chicago of that tour is in the top 3 best Hawkwind live recordings I've heard. Doremi always loses out a bit by Space Ritual blowing it out of the water nut In Search of Space though is the one that needs more love.

stirmonster, Thursday, 25 October 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

Soundrop rooms still going if anyone wants to pop in

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 26 October 2012 00:23 (eleven years ago) link

Hall of the Mountain Grill will DEFINITELY be on my ballot... Huge record.

Clarke B., Friday, 26 October 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link

I think im gonna listen to more music before making a ballot

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 26 October 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

Well shit, now I've heard Warrior On The Edge Of Time and In Search Of Space and I am completely bogged down in the Hawkwind discography. So many riches!!

Non-Stop Erotic Calculus (bmus), Friday, 26 October 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

and smoke?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 27 October 2012 01:18 (eleven years ago) link

the Robert Calvert album is also well worth a listen if you want more good 'Awkwind related doings

BTW how the heck did i manage to not nom Algarnas Tradgard? fuck fuck fuck with an extra serving of fuck on the side

Aimeej0rd0nian Ghoulcaper (NickB), Saturday, 27 October 2012 11:43 (eleven years ago) link

Cool album not to be slept on: Randy Holden's Population II. Dude was in Blue Cheer for a while and had a whole side of the third album for himself; this album is an expansion of it and it is a behemoth. I'm not super keen on the first song but the rest is seismic riff action

IMP of the perverse (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

a sample:

http://youtu.be/lnwVCDA9ZKQ

IMP of the perverse (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

ok i guess its time to start on my ballot!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 27 October 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

Just out of interest, did The Ex make the 80's poll?

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Saturday, 27 October 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

i cant remember.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 27 October 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

1936 Spanish Revolution made #365 on the albums poll.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 October 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

ahh yes.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 28 October 2012 00:40 (eleven years ago) link

goddamn how fucking good is rocket from the tombs

space dokken (Edward III), Sunday, 28 October 2012 01:34 (eleven years ago) link

one of my most treasured records is the life stinks bootleg, distinctly remember my astonishment at finding a sealed copy for $9.99 at my local store in '94 (only 600 were pressed). tho it was an unauthorized ripoff, for a loooong time it was the only way to hear rocket from the tombs stuff, such a crucial band for me at the time. I actually never got around to hearing the offical release, the day the earth met the rocket from the tombs... until today... buncha stuff on there that wasn't on life stinks!

so fkn gdamn good fuck

space dokken (Edward III), Sunday, 28 October 2012 01:48 (eleven years ago) link

this shits all over the dead boys vers imo

http://youtu.be/WsCGTe38EEA

space dokken (Edward III), Sunday, 28 October 2012 01:52 (eleven years ago) link

Never Gonna Kill Myself Again is one of my personal faves, it's an amazing collection.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Sunday, 28 October 2012 03:22 (eleven years ago) link

Fucking amazing collection.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Sunday, 28 October 2012 03:32 (eleven years ago) link

I know it's challopsy but RFTT > anything any of them did afterwards, doesn't help that dead boys/pere ubu's best songs were cribbed from them

space dokken (Edward III), Sunday, 28 October 2012 05:31 (eleven years ago) link

RFTT are v. cool, but wtf were you maniacs thinking when you had a fucking meltdown cow over including this:

Steve Reich - Phase Patterns: http://youtu.be/BelPNaePHiU

Reich was feeding raw, aggro DNA to krautrock, no wave (and its rock descendants), industrial, Kraftwerk, etc. insistent, relentless and stripped, a psychedelia not from synesthesia but from extreme focus, the self imploded - machine thought. complete obliteration of the "I" in either case, but this particular psych legacy is still rolling out, ripping up inner space, and I think it's the paramount psych legacy of the 70s. you can grok this stamp across the board in contemporary music. Reich was building agitation made from thousand-yard-stares and the will to live, while Hawkwind were busy piloting the Goodyear Blimp into a mustache factory, thinking their spaceship had beamed into God's own asshole. and I really like Hawkwind.

Steve Reich - Piano Phase: http://youtu.be/

now I must prepare for this year's apocalypse in my flood-zone condo.

Hellhouse, Sunday, 28 October 2012 13:03 (eleven years ago) link

Albini built a goddamn cottage industry from this robo-pound impulse (did you think the cover of The Model was strictly for laffs?). after that, Ministry, Nine Inch Nails, Gore, Prong, Pantera, etc. all fell into line. Helmet were influenced by Big Black, but also by Hamilton's time w/Band of Susans and Chatham. multiple strands of minimalist echos/aesthetics floating around in rock circles. I'll vote f/Space Ritual, but I'm repping f/No New York in the blues-obliterated clamor category.

Hellhouse, Sunday, 28 October 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

It's trippy and psychedelic, and is even more rock-influenced than most other Western art music, but I don't think it's crazy to say that Steve Reich isn't really hard-rocking, certainly not more so than early Pink Floyd or (especially) Dancing in Your Head-era Ornette. In fact, the overall effect is more meditative, intentionally so. I'm a fan btw: Reich probably means more to me than most of what's on this list but I wouldn't want to be ranking Steve Reich albums vs Cheap Trick albums in a hard 'n' heavy 'n' loud rock poll.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 28 October 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link


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