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i want to talk about canadian whiskey

picked up a bottle of alberta premium dark horse, competing crown royal black? prem market entry from provincial institution/100% rye crew at ab premium. bottled at 45% with a boost from corn whiskey + sherry. herbal, rubbery, a twang like diet coke from a can, rye spice-sour. i've been trying to get my hands on a bottle of ab premium 30 yr and i think it might be impossible.

century reserve 21 year, another provincial institution, highwood from high river alberta, from their inherited stash of corn liquor i guess. this is i believe 100% corn and it's woody as fuck, tree bark and match heads and vanilla. also been drinking their white owl spiced which is kind of novelty, aged 10 year rye whiskey + filtered to remove all colour + over ice smells like butterscotch ripple and tastes like cinnamon hearts and brown bread.

also daily black velvet from plastic and crown limited edition.

dylannn, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 06:57 (eleven years ago) link

i had my eye on a bottle of this tonight just because look at it

http://www.selectism.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/black-arts-2-scotch-bottle.jpg

dylannn, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 06:58 (eleven years ago) link

Oooh, I've always wondered about those whiskeys. I like AB Premium a lot but typically I stick with CC 20 yr.

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 12:49 (eleven years ago) link

Anyone had that Redbreast 12 cask strength? I'm curious.

How much/often do you have to drink to undermine health?

Per health, you should worry less about your liver (at first) and more about the calories. A shot of whiskey can be about 100 calories, I think, so a bottle of Wild Turkey would run about ... 1700 calories? Which is 2 and a half Big Macs? So obviously not healthy to make a habit of it, so to speak.

A lot of cocktails hit around 250-500 calories per drink, easily.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:12 (eleven years ago) link

otm

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link

the answer is to pound that bottle of wild turkey while scarfing down on two and a half big macs

乒乓, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link

balances everything out iirc

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:27 (eleven years ago) link

Question: my dad told me that he stopped drinking Manhattans when they "started to go down too easy." I've always liked that way of explaining it, but I didn't know if it had an origin?

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

foreign soccer players iirc

i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link

aimless- power's is a good example of what i'd consider a pure 'irish' whiskey in terms of taste. Test is simple, make a hot whiskey and if the aftertaste doesn't clash with clove, sugar or lemon you're close imo.

Powers/paddy's will always be the basic standard here btw, though you can get alternatives if you want to spend more.

i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link

as I said to a coworker who said he switched to whiskey for the winter instead of beer since he was less active:
"nonsense, a pint of whiskey surely has more calories than a pint of beer!"

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/4292

124 calories in 1.5 ounces

乒乓, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

that's 100 proof - 97 caloriers for 80 proof http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/4106

乒乓, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

whiskey for dinner, it is!

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

so a fifth is like 25 ounces - 2500 calories!

乒乓, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

ya but you'd burn a lot of it off running from the cops ime

i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

I would still drink whiskey over beer though since no carbs in whiskey.

乒乓, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

what do you think the sugars in whiskey are?

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link

I stand corrected, the usda does not think so

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

BAM

乒乓, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

There's a reason they call rocket fuel. Because it's basically, you know, rocket fuel.

True story: a lot of American whiskey distilleries shut down for a time during WWII and actually did shift to producing jet fuel. That's one reason Scotch caught on in America, because all the servicemen were coming home with the only whiskey they could find.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

Only a couple steps between the ethanol blend in my car and the ethanol blend in my whiskey

d-_-b (mh), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

Was seeking easy sipping Canadian whiskey; was recommended Collingwood by LCBO guy; cool girl swept past, picked up a bottle and said 'he's right! it's delicious, and from my hometown'. Bought it. A bit disappointed. Not complex enough, I guess, and too maple-ey.

ljubljana, Friday, 26 October 2012 02:30 (eleven years ago) link

i think you've been the victim of an extremely cost-ineffective marketing ploy

i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Friday, 26 October 2012 02:31 (eleven years ago) link

lol, yeah

ljubljana, Friday, 26 October 2012 02:34 (eleven years ago) link

lots of canadian whiskey easy to sip + not too expensive. currently drinking canadian club 100 proof.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/food-and-wine/wine/beppi-crosariol/canadian-whisky-our-home-and-native-hooch/article2426507/

dylannn, Friday, 26 October 2012 03:11 (eleven years ago) link

I got a bottle of the Canadian Club 12 Year as a gift and was initially skeptical because to me Canadian whiskey is Crown Royal, which is what teen metalheads vomit up in your sister's car, but wow it was tasty and didn't last long.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 27 October 2012 00:09 (eleven years ago) link

Dickel Rye coming out soon!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larryolmsted/2012/10/25/a-brand-new-rye-whiskey-that-will-turn-heads/

― Sadly, 99.99 percent of sheeple will never wake up (I DIED), Friday, October 26, 2012 7:39 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the indiana rye strikes again. but i'm still excited for this.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 27 October 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link

ban canadian whiskey

Aimless, Saturday, 27 October 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link

why?

dylannn, Saturday, 27 October 2012 01:16 (eleven years ago) link

canadian whiskey is just too sweet and character-deprived to merit the proud name of whiskey. it's all top and no bottom.

Aimless, Saturday, 27 October 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link

that's a good description of the Collingwood, but since I've just seen Argo I'm feeling extremely pro-Canadian and will make it my mission to find Canadian whiskeys with bottom.

ljubljana, Saturday, 27 October 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link

but i think bourbon tastes super sweet and lacking compared to the ryes i like! for complex and not very sweet, alberta premium 25 year is what i'd pour you. 100% rye grain. complex. farm yards and sawdust, burnt sugar, wintergreen copenhagen, unripe kiwi, spicy as fuck. a perfect mix of wood/water/grain. or wiser's 18 year, which is amazing and full of character and has a subtle, pleasant sweetness balanced by peppery rye spice and a deep, mean pungent bottom end.

dylannn, Saturday, 27 October 2012 04:19 (eleven years ago) link

*takes notes*

ljubljana, Saturday, 27 October 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

A good rye whiskey made in canada is ok by me. It's the stuff that gets labeled as "canadian whiskey" I was downward thumbing.

Aimless, Saturday, 27 October 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

black velvet still one of the top-selling liquors in the state

d-_-b (mh), Saturday, 27 October 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

ban black velvet

Aimless, Saturday, 27 October 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

Suggestions of good shops in San Francisco (or maybe San Jose)?

I will be without a car and rather short on time though, so easy access suggestions may have to trump all else. I'd like to pick up a bottle of something...

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 09:40 (eleven years ago) link

there's a K&L in sf, i'd check that out

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 11:48 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks, that looks good.

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 12:12 (eleven years ago) link

I would still drink whiskey over beer though since no carbs in whiskey.

― 乒乓, Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:13 AM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Good point. In my Irish family, whiskey is a household necessity, like gauze pads and sewing thread - even though I don't like it much on a regular basis. It's for occasions like when your grandmother has cancer and stuff.

It beats the shit out of Bailey's though...I love it when I go to my non-Irish side of the family and they offer a Bailey's like it means anything.

I just bought a bottle of Redbreast 12, which is a pretty easy, flavorful sip. But I only bought it because I couldn't find the cask strength at the time, and when I did come across one I didn't want to buy it and have another bottle of Irish whiskey (which I don't have a lot of use for right now).

Recommend this as a Bailey's alternative:

http://xn--3ga.buffalotrace.com/sites/default/files/BourbonCream_0.png

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

Like drinking melted ice cream.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

hey! some people love to drink melted ice cream (but not me)

Aimless, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

OMG it seems like a pretty bad thing that the most exciting thing happening in my life is that Dickel Rye is coming soon...

Had an impromptu taste test between Old Grandad and Old Overholt last week at a party. Overholt wins IMO.

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

overholt was my hurricane drink when the beer ran out
no hangover!

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

krakow - the whisky shop on sutter at stockton is practically a whisky museum. cask on market and 3rd is good too - more bourbon (whisky shop is almost all scotch).

eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 02:42 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks! Leaving early in the morning. Excited!

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

helped my friend get a bottle of george dickel, think we paid too much though. o well! it was the only store in the area that had it (wburg)

乒乓, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link


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