Did you really feel "welcomed" to the jungle by axl rose, or do you think that was sort of just insincere, halfhearted graciousness?

even beyond ego or lack of objectivity, i feel like really good studio monitors can give you such an unrealistically flattering idea of what a work in progress will sound like once other people put it on their humble commonplace speakers/headphones

well pro tools ruins everything as any fule kno xpost

the final album was more like a mosaic of the work that went into it...i have always been interested in how it would have been on the first pass of the album, minus so much overworking

Do you feel welcome?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_Gm06C04U0

the final album was more like a mosaic of the work that went into it...i have always been interested in how it would have been on the first pass of the album, minus so much overworking

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:03 AM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I bet there was a lot of stuff that sounded like Oh My God (which I like a lot fwiw). The hugely negative reaction to that led to a lot of overcooking.

the really strange one is that so many people involved really loved Prostitute, which sounds like just another ballad on the album version

It took me to the 2:54 mark to think that that Bridge Concert video might not be St. Sanders' subtlest piece yet.

"I bet there was a lot of stuff that sounded like Oh My God (which I like a lot fwiw). The hugely negative reaction to that led to a lot of overcooking.

― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, October 24, 2012 12:25 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink"

there are interviews around--i'm looking for a link, but can't seem to find any--that basically confirm this without directly saying it. Axl was really high on that sound for quite some time

omg thank you earlnash

Axl saying "you know where you are? you in the jungle baby" in the Bridge School performance sounds uncannily like Mr. Hankey The Christmas Poo

Also a lot like Dr. Rockso.

hahah, i was just checking in to point out Axl's likeness to Mickey Mouse in that bit, but both of your suggestions are better. i swear Axl was sucking on helium balloons before the performance.

having re-watched that clip after a day gone without, it's transcended from laughably bad to almost surreal.

I could never have prepared myself for this travesty. He's surely finished now. This can't go on.

Still not convinced this isn't one of those "shreds" videos.

― pplains, Monday, October 22, 2012 4:50 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

thats exactly what i thought

2:46 is the bit where i really start to feel sorry for him. he's so far out of his depth trying to recreate the song it's not funny, and he obviously realises that he has to step up his game and sing this part with effort and sincerity. but as yet another trainwreck moment, it becomes emblematic of his struggle as a whole.

it's probably the only performance i'll ever watch where a singer forgetting the words is the least of his problems.

Yee-haw

Can't wait to watch this.

It fucking hurts.

Welcome to the Jungle video Axl was my favorite Axl, followed by kilt and chest protector Axl.

dolphin swimming axl is the best

Chinstrap beard Axl is pretty low on the list, I think.

i like whistling axl
http://cache.vevo.com/Content/VevoImages/video/6FDCA475559DFB2F0823795F3D19D76F.jpg

Time is a cruel mistress.

Someone already took a similar potshot but re: Ezrin... dude who red-lined LOU REED albums is gonna tell me how many good songs I really have? Get the fuck outta here.

That woman on his arm is now

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTc5MDc1NDEwNF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNDg4NTg1._V1._SX214_CR0,0,214,314_.jpg

Someone already took a similar potshot but re: Ezrin... dude who red-lined LOU REED albums is gonna tell me how many good songs I really have?

^also a dude who manned some near perfect Alice Cooper albums.

all lou reed albums are masterpieces you just don't know how to listen right

the kimmel appearance is tonight, yes?

i honestly thought axl was neil doing an axl imitation when i first clicked on the clip

only eventually did the moves suggest someone slightly younger than 60

I just made this on Fake Convos, and it's probably not as funny as it should be, but it took a while and I'm gonna share it anyway:

http://i.imgur.com/S3FcL.jpg

there's no way Axl actually shows up for Kimmel tonight, right?

i say yes, he'll do it to promote the vegas dates cuz he needs the money.

Bumblefoot is jamming with the house band

sucks that jimmy kimmel's show isn't actually live

http://cdn.beta.abc.com/service/image/index/id/d43a57c2-1789-4d82-a283-7454d9f227e6/dim/114x114.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6BRu6zCMAAV9Nk.jpg:large

cool, axl's into cosplay!

so surreal to see him do a tv interview

what was it like? should I watch it online? DETAILS

it was fine. rather bizarrely positive audience response to axl listing his current bandmates.

haha yeah big outpouring of support for DJ Ashba

http://dlvr.it/2N7TmS

lol @ http://cdn.beta.abc.com/service/image/index/id/d43a57c2-1789-4d82-a283-7454d9f227e6/dim/114x114.jpg

For those off-put by Axl's disingenuous welcome, here are two far more appealing jungle invitations:

"Jungle life, you're far away from nothing
It's all right, you won't miss home
Take a chance, leave everything behind you
Come and join me, won't be sorry, it's easy to survive"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r0n9Dv6XnY

"I was standing in the jungle, I was feeling alright...

Then a lion sang to me and smiled:
'Come join us if you so desire.'...

Pretty soon I knew the tune and
We sat and sang under the moon
And the jungle rang in joyful harmony."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swpv4k8YQRw

In that pic w/Paul Simon with the hat and stache and shit he kind of reminds me of... Beefheart?!?!

that's not Paul Simon is it?

Axl is very tiny if he and Paul are the same height

Axl is short, apparently.

Although a police report reprinted in this article says he's 5'9", which isn't that short. Also, I'm going to copy a hilarious block of text from that article, which had me shaking with laughter.

I'd been shuffling around a surprisingly pretty, sunny, newly renovated downtown Lafayette for a couple of days, scraping at whatever I could find. I saw the house where he grew up. I looked at his old yearbook pictures in the public library. Everyone had his or her Axl story. He stole a TV from that house there. Here's where he tried to ride his skateboard on the back of a car and fell and got road rash all up his arm. He came out of this motel with a half-naked woman and some older guys were looking at her and one of 'em threw down a cigarette, not meaning anything by it, but Axl freaked out and flipped 'em off and they beat the crap out of him. Hard to document any of this stuff. Still, enough Wanted On Warrant reports exist for Axl's Indiana years to lend credence to the claim that the city cops and county troopers pretty much felt justified, and technically speaking were justified, in picking him up and hassling him whenever they spotted him out. One doubts he left the house much that they didn't spot him, what with the long, fine, flowing red hair. Must have been sweet to be Axl.

I went to the city cops. They've mellowed along with the town. In fact, they were friendly. They found and processed the negatives of some heretofore unknown mug shots for me, from '80 and '82, the latter of which (the one where he's shirtless) is an anonymous American masterpiece. Then the ladies in the records department rummaged some and came back with this report, which I've never seen mentioned in any of the bios or online or anything. It's written by an officer signing himself "1—4." I took it back to the Holiday Inn and spent the rest of the afternoon reading. Let's call it The Sheidler Incident. It begins:

FULL NAME: BAILEY, WILLIAM BRUCE…

ALIASES: BILL BAILEY…

CURRENT PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT: SELF EMPLOYED—BAND

CHARGE: W[ANTED]O[N]W[ARRANT]BATTERY…

AGE: 18; HEIGHT: 5'9"; WEIGHT: 149

HAIR: RED; EYES: GRN; BUILD: SLENDER; COMPLEXION: FAIR…

Here's how it all went down that day—allegedly. I'm about to cherry-pick the pivotal bits. A little kid named Scott Sheidler was riding his bike in front of an older kid named Dana Gregory's house. He made skid marks on the sidewalk. Dana Gregory ran out, picked Scott up under the armpits, kicked over his bike, and ordered the boy To get on his hands and knees and scrub the skid marks off the sidewalk. The kid went squealing to his old man, Tom Sheidler. Tom Sheidler went to Gregory and asked if it was true, what Scotty had said. Dana Gregory said, "Yes and I'm going to beat the fuck out of you." The mom, Marleen, ran up to the scene and began to shout. Around the same time, Bill Bailey appeared, red, green, slender, and fair. And here I need to let the report take over, if only temporarily, as I can't begin to simulate its succinctness or authority:

M. Sheidler stated that Bailey was also arguing with Sheidler and that he was using the "F" word in front of her kids. M. Sheidler stated that she went up to Bailey and pointed her finger at Bailey and told him not to use the "F" word in front of her kids. M. Sheidler stated that Bailey, who has a splint on his arm, then struck her on the arm and neck with the splint. I looked at M. Sheidler and could see some red marks on her arm and neck which could have been made by being struck.

This matter of which hand it was subsumes the narrative for a stretch. Marleen Sheidler says "with the splint," and little Scott says "with a splint," but Dana Gregory's younger brother Chris 15 says "with the opposite hand that his splint is on" (adding that Bailey struck Sheidler in response to "Sheidler Strikeing [sic]" him). Bill Bailey himself then goes on to say that he "struck M. SHEIDLER in the FACE with his LEFT HAND the hand with out the SPLINT." Once again, this only after "MARLEEN SHEIDLER struck him in the face" (though seconds earlier, by his own admission, he'd told her "to keep her fucking brats at home"). The story ends with a strangely affecting suddenness: "BAILEY stated SHEIDLER then jumped at him and fell on his face, he then left and went home…"

The thing I couldn't stop wondering as I read it over was: Why were they so freaked out about the skid marks? Is making skid marks on the sidewalk a bad thing to do? It makes me think I spent half my childhood inadvertently infuriating my entire neighborhood.