Did you really feel "welcomed" to the jungle by axl rose, or do you think that was sort of just insincere, halfhearted graciousness?

yeah get bent otm - I've had a hard, hard time letting go. It's only since Chinese Democracy that I've stopped expecting anything good from him. I was always so hopeful, you know?

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:58 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think CD is great. Axl can still write good music. Releasing it is a big hurdle.

i wonder who took up the mantle after he wasn't relevant anymore?

skrillex?

I first heard the rib removal story as an explanation of how Janet Jackson lost all of that weight between Rhythm Nation and janet

Janet Jackson had a rib removed so she could suck her own dick?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XOX_juLtAXU/T-OXGYgvIbI/AAAAAAAAAa8/s8ZyJS-ccqQ/s1600/hugh+marlowe.jpg

"I like that Axl, that quality of quiet graciousness."

are the rivers cuomo leg lengthening procedure and queen's dwarf cocaine party rumors still true?

Janet Jackson had a rib removed so she could suck her own dick?

puts "If" in a whole new light, doesn't it

hmm.

... as far as I know the Rivers Cuomo story is true?

Cuomo was born with his left leg 44 mm (13⁄4 in) shorter than his right leg. After the success of The Blue Album, Cuomo underwent a procedure to correct the condition. This involved the surgical breaking of the bone in his leg, followed by several months of wearing a steel brace which required self-administered "stretching" of the leg four times daily; Cuomo likened the ordeal to "crucifying [his] leg."[31] An x-ray of the leg is part of the album art for "The Good Life" single, and the experience inspired him to write the song. Cuomo can be seen wearing the brace on an episode of the Late Show with David Letterman, which can be found on their DVD Video Capture Device.

urban legends about pop stars are alive in the twitter era, lady gaga has a penis etc

i wonder if we can lend credibility to the manson story if we edit wikipedia to say he donated the rib to be ground up and incorporated in rivers leg.

lol @ "Cuomo was born with his left leg 44 mm (13⁄4 in) shorter than his right leg" -- i think the bigger issue would be a newborn baby with a leg that's over a foot long!

ah yeah gaga! she's got the juice it would take to have a fake dick rumor, props

I really want to make a Mailboxes Etc joke but it's totally inorganic and it would date me

or i dunno i misread that as 13.4 inches, i guess it actually means 4 and a quarter inches. still. (xpost)

Elvis always wanted Priscilla to do the leg-extending thing. </fact>

you mean 1.75 inches?

ohhh i couldn't tell that '3/4' was in smaller lettering than '1'

I am more surprised you had no context for how long 44 mm might be

oh i glossed over that

i have a good handle for metric lengths but when i see them i still go 'fuck you tell it to me in feet and inches, frenchie'

hahaha

I feel like I live in an alternate universe where Axl is still alive and making music becuz really out of anyone from his era he should be dead. Like maybe even he's surprised he's still alive.

"C'mon dudes I'm fat & terrible now, but really I shouldn't even be here, I should have died in like 1993."

Axl being alive is how I know I'm in the Matrix basically

i wonder what josh freese knows about axl that he can't legally talk about...

many xpost to Matt Armstrong - yeah I saw that 06 warmup show and stupidly on the back of that actually BOUGHT tickets for that tour, which they promptly cancelled of course, lol.

There's a couple of ok songs on CD but I mostly can't stand it. I dunno what I wanted but it wasn't that. Mr Veg really likes it though, so ymmv. Or, my mmv.

Axl was always destructive but not self-destructive -- everyone around him had addictions but it seemed like he was just the most extreme case of Lead Singer Syndrome in history, nothing that would lead him to an early death

otm

what's weird to me about Axl is that he's this strange bipolar hermit who somehow tours nonstop. He gives one interview every five years and he refuses to release new material out of perfectionist fear, but he's happy to jet off to Buenos Aires or Prague to huff and puff his way through Nightrain again. I guess he must just love touring.

the man might also have substantial expenses/debts as well

he probably gets bored hanging out in his mansion

That's what I was thinking after seeing him at Bridge. I think out of everything he really just kind of wants/needs the applause and validation, but it's never to the degreee that he used to get it so he runs off and holes up on terror island in his laboratory hoping to wow the world with his giant death ray or whatever, and every time it's like THOSE FOOLS! THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT POWERS i HAVE. I'LL SHOW THEM ALL!

yeah he barely toured at all for like a decade, the difference between now and the '90s might be how much $ from the glory days he's sitting on.

btw is there any Bridge School video that hasn't been taken down out there, i still haven't seen it

i mean, the amount of money wasted in high priced studios on the recording of chinese democracy alone...boggles the mind

the credits on Chinese Democracy are pretty eye-opening in a O_o kind of way

i mean, the amount of money wasted in high priced studios on the recording of chinese democracy alone...boggles the mind

― terrell sug (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:43 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the label paid for all that tho

all of it? wow...long leash if so...these credits from chinese democracy blow my mind:

Roy Thomas Baker – Initial album production

Paul Buckmaster – Orchestra conductor, Orchestral arrangement on track 14, Initial Symphonic arrangements on tracks 4, 6, 12

i hope someday there's some kind of sprawling investigative report on the inner workings of post-UYI Guns/Axl like that Vanity Fair piece on Scientology

I think the label's final bill was 14 million.

the use of the word "initial" is pretty amazing, it's like those big hollywood movies where they have to give a screenplay credit to the guy who did the first draft before 8 different script doctors who gradually changed every single word

which somehow they managed to recoup in the best buy deal xp

i hope someday there's some kind of sprawling investigative report on the inner workings of post-UYI Guns/Axl like that Vanity Fair piece on Scientology

― my mansplain songz (some dude), Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:48 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god yeah, i wonder if there's anyone who was close enough to it that could do it....

at least i hope tommy stinson got his house paid off through all of this

i hope someday there's some kind of sprawling investigative report on the inner workings of post-UYI Guns/Axl like that Vanity Fair piece on Scientology

― my mansplain songz (some dude), Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:48 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is pretty good but doesn't have the dirt we want

http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/top-posts/the-chinese-democracy-years-1994-2008/

lol who even keeps track of shit to the detail??

Caram Costanzo – digital editing on all tracks; arrangements on tracks 2, 6 and 8; drum arrangements on tracks 3, 6 and 14; sub drums on track 13; production; mixing; engineering; initial production on track 8

the best stories we have are almost all related to Buckethead:

- requesting and getting a giant chicken coop to play guitar in

- watching porn nonstop in said chicken coop until Axl asked him to stop

- becoming very upset when a KFC franchise was shown in flames on the news in the aftermath of 9/11

- allowing a dog's crap to sit in the coop until it stunk up the whole studio

this was one of the best things about the 06 shows: Bumblefoot and Finck doing Aguilera's 'Beautiful'
(start at the 4 min mark)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd5gUn_yj0M&t=4m

axl is such a weird character. more than almost any other rock star on his level, i get the sense that he's a genuinely fucked-up, troubled guy who can't totally control what he does or what he says. if you read his interviews they basically consist of therapy session psychobabble, like, 'i'm really under a lot of pressure right now, i'm struggling just to keep everything under control,' etc. etc. listening to 'AFD' the other day for the first time in a while it struck me how many of axl's lyrics are basically just long strings of tough-guy cliches or lines that sound so hackneyed and artificial they might as well be cliches -- 'take that one to heart,' 'you learn to live like an animal,' 'i'm ready to crash and burn.' yet there's this really genuine sense of rage, resentment, and self-loathing radiating through most of it.

"Rose said that Freese was one of the easiest drummers to work with -- and friendliest. When Spinner spoke to Freese, he took the time to return the compliment. "Everyone always baits me to give them a crazy Axl story," he admits. "I don't really have any. I spent two years in a studio with him (and) I never saw any mood swings. He was never not cool to me. So, I am always quick to defend the guy, even though I know his reality is different than mine. Then again, everyone has a different reality."

that matrix joke might be more truth than joke!

axl is doing jimmy kimmel's show on wednesday