yeah, sounds great.
― tylerw, Monday, 22 October 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
wonderful. Copa City Titty is great. I could listen to Jaki Byard all day.
― mizzell, Monday, 22 October 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, as incredible as the band from this era is, i think byard is secretly the most incredible.
― tylerw, Monday, 22 October 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
ha ha! "RCA Victor are the only label that pay roayalties properly, cause they make so much money from the atomic bomb, they don't have to worry about cheating jazz musicians"
― mizzell, Monday, 22 October 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
i want to have 4 kids just so i can name them jaki, dannie, eric and charles
― mizzell, Monday, 22 October 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
'I am selling my own records from now on... through the mail'
― j., Monday, 22 October 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
i recently read the mingus bio myself when i am real -- he was a weird dude!
― tylerw, Monday, 22 October 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
"Copa City Titty"!
".....nothin to do with mammaries..."
― theStalePrince, Monday, 22 October 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
Many thanks for the heads up on this set
― Brakhage, Monday, 22 October 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
listening to mingus in this era i always think i'd be ok if that was all i was allowed to listen to for the rest of my days. endlessly wonderful/exciting/crazy music.
― tylerw, Monday, 22 October 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
I just installed the NPR Music iPhone app to listen to this -- sounds great.
― Brad C., Monday, 22 October 2012 23:31 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks for posting that link, tylerw. Can't wait for this set. Hey, have you heard Byard's The Jaki Byard Experience? Byard, Kirk, Richard Davis, Alan Dawson. Unbelievable record.
― 5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 22 October 2012 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
Great review in latest issue of The Wire - sounds like the first four (Dolphy-assisted) discs are pretty essential
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link
How long do these 'first listen' things stay up? I have to work today and don't have the internet at work! Really wanna hear this...
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link
They usually stay up at least for a week
― willem, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 13:39 (eleven years ago) link
might as well post this hereiTunes Mingus bargains (Europe, at least)3 in 1 for €4.99, a collection containing Mingus Ah Um, Lionel's Sessions, Pithecanthropus Erectus and The Clown. Yep, that's four!Mingus at Carnegie Hall for €1.99
― willem, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link
Mingus at Carnegie Hall is a sadly overlooked record. Roland Kirk is on fire.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link
that's the one w/ just two tracks right? and kirk hits that insane note and just holds it for eternity or something?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link
yep. Wish there was more from those sessions - apparently it barely scratch the surface of what they were like.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link
yeah reading that bio reminded me i need to hear more of his 70s stuff.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
Carnegie is two tracks. Just about to play them on my way home from work :)AMG says that release misses the opening set and the "freer finale"
― willem, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
Listening to this now, and yes, it's as overwhelmingly brilliant as you'd expect.
My dad saw Mingus -- the group with Dolphy, Byard, Coles, Jordan et al -- in January, 1964 at the Five Spot, two nights running. When I asked him what it was like, he paused, stared off into the distance, and said, "It was one of the greatest experiences of my life."
― 5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 15 November 2012 04:04 (eleven years ago) link
I wish I too had been there to see the godfather of the upright bass.
― Listicle Vogue (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 November 2012 04:25 (eleven years ago) link
It's not just a ruckus jubilation.
― 5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 15 November 2012 04:53 (eleven years ago) link
The Shoes of the Fisherman's Wife Are Some Jibeass Slippers
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 15 November 2012 05:10 (eleven years ago) link
sorry to hear of ted curson's recent passing - the fake 'live' alb he's on w/ dolphy is prob my fave mingus rec
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 15 November 2012 09:12 (eleven years ago) link
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/205629_601371096556572_400376268_n.jpgsalvador shared this over on facebook, pretty rad.
― tylerw, Friday, 1 February 2013 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha, even juke box operators hate him!
― Z S, Friday, 1 February 2013 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
On one of the sets on the new Mosaic box (think it's My Favorite Quintet) he asks the audience not to buy his Columbia or Impulse records, but RCA is ok: "They must make enough from the atomic bomb to pay their musicians."
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 1 February 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
Charles Morbsus
― Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Friday, 1 February 2013 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
lol, the precursor to the "language professors HATE him!" ads
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Friday, 1 February 2013 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
Why did juke box operators hate him, because of the lengthy songs?
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 08:50 (eleven years ago) link
He decked one for playing one of his singles at the wrong speed
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
The Shoes of the Fisherman's Wife Are Some Jiveass Slippers
― j., Thursday, 26 September 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link
where have I heard the opening bar of Moanin' from Blues and Roots? It sounds so familiar, but whosampled only mentions a French hiphop song I'm not that familiar with.
― wank-bond-villain-looking villain, (dog latin), Thursday, 13 March 2014 01:15 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__OSyznVDOY&feature=kp
― wank-bond-villain-looking villain, (dog latin), Thursday, 13 March 2014 01:16 (ten years ago) link
I remember reading about this in 1989-1990, when it was in the pre-planning stages. Had no idea it actually happened -- apparently it was shown on the BBC in 1993, and released on laserdisc.
Directed by Ray Davies!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPNhnIwT920
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 00:29 (nine years ago) link
Ha, whoops, no, let's try that again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8b6KdnnM8Y
Reading the newish Mingus Speaks book of interviews and am reminded I enjoy Mingus more as a personality than as a composer. He's never moved me, except as a bassist in small groups. His ambitions were certainly noble, I just find his chamber jazz / big band music ponderous and dull. I'm probably the only one, though, judging by previous conversations with a wide range of music fans (including my wife, who loves Mingus to death).
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 03:07 (nine years ago) link
you must fundamentally misunderstand something about listening to music
― j., Wednesday, 14 January 2015 03:33 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqZk8KP6xjo
Does anyone know what song sampled that opening piano riff from "Trio and Group Dancers"? I want to say that it's a trip hop song.
― A-Hanisi Coates (Leee), Friday, 1 May 2015 00:28 (nine years ago) link
And pretty sure that it features a female vocalist.
― A-Hanisi Coates (Leee), Friday, 1 May 2015 00:46 (nine years ago) link
I can't believe how long I've slept on Charles Mingus. It's embarrassing, but what a treasure for someone who has been starved for something new.orchestral and cinematic, but it also swings and is full of soul. The last six months or so I been listening to these as much as possible:
Pithecanthropus Erectus (1956, Atlantic)The Clown (1957, Atlantic)Tijuana Moods (RCA, 1957 [1962])Blues & Roots (1959, Atlantic)Mingus Ah Um (1959, Columbia)Mingus Dynasty (1959, Columbia)Mingus at Antibes (1960, Atlantic)Charles Mingus Presents Charles Mingus (1960, Candid)Mingus! (1960, Candid)Oh Yeah (1961, Atlantic)The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady (1963, Impulse!)Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus (1963, Impulse!; sometimes referred to as Five Mingus)Charles Mingus Sextet with Eric Dolphy Cornell 1964 (Blue Note, 1964 [2007])Let My Children Hear Music (Columbia, 1972)
― nicky lo-fi, Sunday, 23 August 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link
Charles Mingus had so many different types of tunes. The guy liked to play raw bluesy stuff trying to get some type of constant gospel call and response improvisation between the horns and piano. Then Mingus dares these European classical music pieces or orchestrated big band pieces, dense pieces of harmony. Mingus also came out of be-bop, so he's got that down too. Charles Mingus was a musician at another level and his recorded output is pretty staggering. I got to figure anything he ever did is worth listening to at least once.
― earlnash, Sunday, 23 August 2015 20:24 (eight years ago) link
Yesterday my daughter insisted on turning up mingus ah um. That was unexpected.
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 23 August 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link
Be sure to check out Jazz Portrait: Mingus in Wonderland. John Handy and Booker Ervin!
― Liquid Plejades, Sunday, 23 August 2015 21:15 (eight years ago) link
My dad saw Mingus two nights running at the Five Spot in late 1963 -- same lineup (Dolphy, Jordan, Richmond, Byard, Coles) as the 1964 Town Hall/European dates. When I asked him what it was like, he paused, stared off into the distance and said quietly, "It was one of the greatest experiences of my life."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 23 August 2015 23:21 (eight years ago) link
that's beautiful
― sleeve, Sunday, 23 August 2015 23:33 (eight years ago) link
That run from 1956 up to Eric Dolphy's death in 1964 is just a ton of good records. Blues and Roots and The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady are probably my favorites, but all of them are good.
― earlnash, Monday, 24 August 2015 00:54 (eight years ago) link
My dad saw Mingus two nights running at the Five Spot in late 1963it is crazy -- i've talked to someone who saw a bunch of NYC jazz in the late 50s/early 60s and it's like these titans of 20th century american music playing tiny clubs. and he says the clubs were rarely very crowded! just mind boggling.
― tylerw, Monday, 24 August 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link