2008 Primaries Thread

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they've got lots of things in those closets.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 24 January 2008 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link

(xpost: damn you!)

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 24 January 2008 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link

So Sly Stallone now supports McCain and Chuck Norris supports Huckabee. Not fair. Every candidate should have an aging action star in their entourage.

So . . . Tom Cruise for Ron Paul, maybe? Others?

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 24 January 2008 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Tom_Cruise.php

gabbneb, Thursday, 24 January 2008 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link

kucinich: david carradine

gff, Thursday, 24 January 2008 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

HRC/Cruise. Hmmm. . . Both have crazy bug eyes, sometimes. Could work.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 24 January 2008 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Their laughs are both very creepy.

Nicole, Thursday, 24 January 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Good point!

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 24 January 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Edwards/Cruise works, too, tho.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 24 January 2008 21:58 (sixteen years ago) link

It's the hair. And the teeth.

Nicole, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link

back to race again - hillary's status as white non-ethnic may bode pretty well for her electability, given that white non-ethnics Johnson and Carter are the only Dems in modern history to win with a majority of the vote, and the only other white non-ethnic we've run, our hero Algore, 'won' with a plurality. Scandinavians Humphrey and Mondale and Irish McGovern and Greek Dukakis didn't come close, while half-Czech Kerry missed the cigar. Irish(?) Billy C. won twice, of course, but both times with only a plurality, even after he was an incumbent, and in any event he may have signified as a sort of sui generis figure.

gabbneb, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:03 (sixteen years ago) link

and after Reagan made the Irish safe for America

gabbneb, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Romney/Timothy Dalton!(Or Pierce Brosnan.)

Oh, right right, back to the race . . .

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:06 (sixteen years ago) link

and Clinton's ancestry in the US dated to the 18th C

gabbneb, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:08 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/ <-- some of the R backers on here are o_O (Adam Sandler) Mr Rogers :(

bnw, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link

mr. rogers is fucking dead

Eppy, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Dabney why you brake heart

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link

That list is awesome, especially -- as you say -- for the GOP doners.

Hey, GOP, you have exercise guru Denise Austin and game show host Bob Barker and magician David Blaine and Jack-Of-All-Trades Drew Carey and Dabney Coleman on your side. Flaunt Your Star Power, GOP.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:17 (sixteen years ago) link

drew carey o gnoooes

gff, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Jessica Alba gave $600.00 to Harold Ford, Jr.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:19 (sixteen years ago) link

(She's hott.)

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:19 (sixteen years ago) link

ROGERS, FRED M
PITTSBURGH, PA 15213 KERRY, JOHN FORBES (D)
Senate - MA
KERRY COMMITTEE $1,000
general 10/16/02
ROGERS, FRED
PITTSBURGH, PA 15213
F C I THORNBURGH, DICK (R)
Senate - PA
THORNBURGH FOR SENATE COMMITTEE $1,000
general 09/20/91
ROGERS, FRED
PITTSBURGH, PA 15213
FAMILY COMMUNICATIONS INC HEINZ, HENRY JOHN III (R)
Senate - PA
PEOPLE FOR JOHN HEINZ COMMITTEE

remy bean, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Dabney Coleman is the "you forgot Poland" of celebrity campaign doners.

Eppy, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link

ie he's obviously friends w/ Teresa

gabbneb, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link

she was a board member of the company that produced the show

gabbneb, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:21 (sixteen years ago) link

That web site has a GOP delagate count on the right hand side, showing Romney ahead. With a possible small lead in Florida now, his spin team needs to quickly and forcefully send out the message that as GOP contenders drop out, Romney's support will rise as the "anti-McCain" (Romney appears to be picking up Fred Thompson's Florida supporters).

Hopefully, that will propel him to a win in Florida, and then beyond.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:24 (sixteen years ago) link

i think you guys are overestimating the opposition to mccain

gabbneb, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:25 (sixteen years ago) link

You think McCain has won over the hearts and minds of the GOP?

That would be bad.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:26 (sixteen years ago) link

no, but I think the idea that there are lots of people who wouldn't settle for him is overblown

gabbneb, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Agreed (e.g., see above, where my friend -- the Florida evengelical leader -- said despite his support for Huckabee, he'd support (and even campaign) for McCain if he's the GOP nominee). But that doesn't mean McCain is the GOP base's first choice. If they'd prefer an alternative (and only "settle" for McCain if necessary), I want one alternative to emerge, e.g., Romney, who also has the advantage of being far more vulnerable in a GE.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:43 (sixteen years ago) link

i forgot to mention jfk, who won with a plurality (but probably didn't actually win)

gabbneb, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link

this is o/t but we don't have a "rolling congressional youtube roflz thread"

sheldon whitehouse vs epa administrator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-plXrnjN03U

gff, Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:52 (sixteen years ago) link

sheldon whitehouse vs epa administrator

We can do better. No-Holds-Barred Tag-Team Match: Edwards/Cruise v. Romney/Timothy Dalton.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 24 January 2008 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link

In other news: Al Gore sez it's ok for me to get married.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 24 January 2008 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Bill was no friend to the black man.

He relished this bond and often acknowledged his honorary blackness. It is important to remember that the description of Clinton as black was prompted by his experience of personal, public humiliation at the hands of his political foes. It is not a claim about his racial heritage, but instead a reaction to his experience with and use of cultural markers that often stand for the denigrated elements of black life in America.

We knew this, but to read it so baldly -- to recall the nonsense said by intelligent people like Toni Morrison -- galls. He's claiming martyrdom!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:10 (sixteen years ago) link

ouch

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:20 (sixteen years ago) link

A group that lobbies for needle exchanges, for allowing more immigrants with HIV/AIDS to legally enter the country, and for condom distribution in prisons received a $303,000 federal earmark pushed by Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.).

That was one of 261 earmarks Clinton personally helped usher through Congress. That's more earmarks than any other member of Congress seeking the presidency, according to an analysis by the watchdog group Citizens Against Government Waste (CAGW).

...

For the candidates still in the primary race, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) had 46 earmarks ... and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) had no earmarks, according to the CAGW. McCain has campaigned on having no earmarks during his time in Congress, and he has pledged to eliminate them if elected president.

gabbneb, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:43 (sixteen years ago) link

well, if citizens against government waste says so!

and what, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:44 (sixteen years ago) link

just a preview of coming attractions

gabbneb, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:45 (sixteen years ago) link

i dont get what gabbneb's point is

deej, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:52 (sixteen years ago) link

he likes Rear Window?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:53 (sixteen years ago) link

gold star

gabbneb, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Obama does the top ten - http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/01/vice_president.html

gabbneb, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:36 (sixteen years ago) link

HAGAR, SAMMY R MR.
NOVATO, CA 94948
F.W.O. INC./ENTERTAINER George W Bush (R)
President
BUSH-CHENEY '04 (PRIMARY) INC Lost $2,000
primary 07/11/03
HAGAR, SAMMY R.
NOVATO, CA 94948
F.W.O. INC./ENTERTAINER Dana Rohrabacher (R)
House (CA District: 46)
COMMITTEE TO RE-ELECT CONGRESSMAN DANA ROHRABACHER Won $1,000
primary 02/08/02
HAGAR, SAMMY
MILL VALLEY, CA 94941
VAN HALEN GROUP Dana Rohrabacher (R)
House (CA District: 46)
COMMITTEE TO RE-ELECT CONGRESSMAN DANA ROHRABACHER Won $1,000
primary 12/23/93
HAGAR, SAMMY
MILL VALLEY, CA 94941
VAN HALEN GROUP Dana Rohrabacher (R)
House (CA District: 46)
COMMITTEE TO RE-ELECT CONGRESSMAN DANA ROHRABACHER Won $1,000
primary 11/25/91
HAGAR, SAMMY
MILL VALLEY, CA 94941
VAN HALEN GROUP Dana Rohrabacher (R)
House (CA District: 46)
COMMITTEE TO RE-ELECT CONGRESSMAN DANA ROHRABACHER Won $500
general 11/25/91
HAGAR, SAMMY
MILL VALLEY, CA 94941
VAN HALEN GROUP Dana Rohrabacher (R)
House (CA District: 46)
COMMITTEE TO RE-ELECT CONGRESSMAN DANA ROHRABACHER Won $1,000
primary 03/11/88

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:53 (sixteen years ago) link

NELSON, PRINCE ROGERS
LOS ANGELES, CA 90067 BOSCHWITZ, RUDY (R)
Senate - MN
PEOPLE FOR BOSCHWITZ 1990 - $-1,000
primary 06/25/90
NELSON, PRINCE ROGERS
LOS ANGELES, CA 90067
BRESLAUER, JACOBSON ET AL BOSCHWITZ, RUDY (R)
Senate - MN
PEOPLE FOR BOSCHWITZ 1990 Lost $1,000
primary 02/20/90
NELSON, PRINCE ROGERS
LOS ANGELES, CA 90067
BRESLAUER, JACOBSON ET AL BOSCHWITZ, RUDY (R)
Senate - MN
PEOPLE FOR BOSCHWITZ 1990 Lost $1,000
primary 02/20/90

...

:(

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Ted Nugent (bio)
rock star, hunter

Election Picks
1 win, 1 loss
$500 Republican
$1,000 Democrat
total: $1,500
Contributor Candidate or PAC Election
Result* Amount Date FEC
Filing
NUGENT, THEODORE
CONCORD, MI 49237
SINGER BARCIA, JAMES A (D)
House (MI District: 05)
BARCIA FOR CONGRESS Won $1,000
primary 07/25/92
NUGENT, THEODORE "TED"
CONCORD, MI 49237
SELF/DAMN YANKEES WORLD WIDE WILSON, THOMAS DOOLEY (R)
House (MI District: 07)
COMMITTEE TO ELECT THOMAS DOOLEY WILSON Lost $500
primary 06/17/92

!!!!

Eisbaer, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:04 (sixteen years ago) link

then again, maybe nuge's contribution to this barcia fellow isn't so surprising:

Political career

Barcia was a member of the Michigan State House of Representatives, from 1977 to 1983. He left the House after being elected to the Michigan Senate, where he served until he resigned in 1993 to enter the United States House of Representatives.
Barcia's Congressional District from 1993 to 2002
Barcia's Congressional District from 1993 to 2002

Barcia was elected as a Democrat from Michigan's 5th congressional district to the 103rd Congress and to the four succeeding Congresses, serving from January 3, 1993 to January 3, 2003. He was a moderate Democrat who opposed abortion and gun control. He had a lifetime rating of 54 from the American Conservative Union--the highest of any Democrat from Michigan at the time.

After the United States 2000 Census, Barcia's district was dismantled by the Republican-controlled state legislature. Most of his district's territory was shifted to the 10th District, but his home in Bay City was merged with the neighboring 9th District of fellow Democrat Dale Kildee. The new district retained Barcia's district number (the 5th), but was geographically more Kildee's district. Under the circumstances, Barcia opted to run for his old seat in the State Senate and won.

On April 23, 2004, he was indicted on federal campaign finance law violations relating to the failed 2002 congressional bid of then-Macomb County Prosecutor Carl Marlinga. The charges against Barcia were dropped in July of 2005.

On October 10, 2002, Jim Barcia was among the 81 House Democrats who voted in favor of authorizing the invasion of Iraq.

Eisbaer, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait, wait, wait, wait: Ted Nugent donated to Democrats?

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 25 January 2008 02:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Haha Ron Paul just blamed Iraq on the Clinton administration.

Eppy, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:36 (sixteen years ago) link


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