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The main reason for this is that Paris H's own experience is so radically outside any of our frames of reference that she DOES just come across as a spoilt brat even if she isn't actually. I mean, no one other than The Lex and people who know her personally cares what the 'real' Paris is like. Any more than we care about any 'price of fame' confessional type albums. It's one of the reasons why the new Streets album is so much less compelling than the previous two.

People generally want to either idolise or mock their celebrities. They don't want to empathise with them, unless they get cancer or do something else that brings them down to the level or 'mere mortals'.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

ARGH XPOST SHARED BRANE HELP!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

:o

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel the same way about Kanye West's blowout about not getting whatever award it was. The only difference between this and Paris assertion is that (in my opinion) Kanye does have talent, but I still think he looked like a complete fool in this case.

I dunno, I just respect people that accept their praise and/or criticism in stride, and don't get visibly pissed off when the public (or whatever awards organization) doesn't share in their self-perceived recognition.

shorty (shorty), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

do you hate 90% of humanity then, shorty?

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm afraid to tell the truth on that one Lex!

Someone said "I love humanity, it's just the people I can't stand!" Something like that applies to me.

Besides, there are tons of people who accept their recognition gracefully (at least while in public).

shorty (shorty), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Thread is an insult to the great ms. Hilton and proof why Bush should've bombed the UK instead of Iraq.

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Dimehitter Dwayne Hosey (dwaynehosey), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

lol @ people still arguing over the fucking PARIS HILTON record.

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

you're right Merl! Dunno why I felt the need to pull at this thread today.

shorty (shorty), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

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Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

shorty, you know when ur banging on about ppl earning their fame etc, do you mean paris jumping to the top of the porn vid queue and displacing all the honest fame-deserving webcam girls you appear to be peddling in ur dayjob? sorry, i'm awful confused!!

rtccc (mwah), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

dude, I have made no personal attacks against Lex or anyone else in this thread. I have also never spammed or advertized the site I manage here at ILX; I simply used one of my many e-mail addresses that is already a spam-inbox. How any of that has anything to do with this thread... Oh, I see you say you're confused. Nevermind then.

On the other hand, there's no such thing as bad publicity, so thanks!

shorty (shorty), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't believe ILX is having this conversation in 2006.

Can we maybe talk of the new Diddy album? Are people hating on this for the same reason?

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I would imagine Hilton has worked very hard to get where she is. I think she is responsible for her own fame, and has therefore 'earned' it (whatever that means).

Worked? You have got to be joking! Even though she's not to inherit that many millions - to many cousins and whatnot to share the dough - she's never worked in her life unless you count that sex tape she did with Shannen Doherty's ex and holding a cellphone to her ear. (It's entirely possible she signed a contract with some medical reseach center to see if obsessive usage of a cellphone can create brain cancer. She's got'em fooled of course as she has no brain.) But that is beside the point. So what if you worked 24 hours per day, the end result is what matters.

I like her in some weird ass way.

lol @ people still arguing over the fucking PARIS HILTON record.

*stares at thread title*

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't believe ILX is having this conversation in 2006.

aka THE YEAR THE ALBUM CAME OUT

2 american 4 u (blueski), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 23:28 (seventeen years ago) link

You people.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 23:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still waiting for a definition of the word "onlhat."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 23 November 2006 08:42 (seventeen years ago) link

If celebrities are so inherently uninteresting, how then to explain the continuing popularity of (eg) celebrity gossip magazines?

braveclub (braveclub), Thursday, 23 November 2006 09:02 (seventeen years ago) link

people are interested in uninteresting things.

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 23 November 2006 09:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I said "celebrity" as a subject matter isn't interesting. Clearly people are interested in celebrities. Usually for idolising or mocking purposes (see Heat).

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 23 November 2006 09:34 (seventeen years ago) link

tbh some celebrities are interesting, but the phrase "celebrity culture" can only evoke dread. it's a very zoe williams kinda topic.

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 23 November 2006 09:37 (seventeen years ago) link

the problem with "celebrity culture" is that it's such a meaningless phrase that it gets used to represent so many strawmen instead of people thinking about the terms in which people actually engage with/relate to celebrities

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 23 November 2006 10:03 (seventeen years ago) link

true, but that's possibly partially because the word 'celebrity' itself has become meaningless.

have you ever seen the state of the participants in celebrity come dancing/cooking/hairdressing/badger baiting, etc? I reckon the average person on the street would be hard-pressed to name even half of the participants in these programmes before they begin. they may become celebrities afterwards, but that's another story.

rather than meaning 'celebrated' or 'lauded', it now just seems to mean 'somebody that some other person, somewhere, has heard of... once'.

mister the guanoman (mister the guanoman), Thursday, 23 November 2006 10:24 (seventeen years ago) link

the international star system has been going since the 1910s; there is nothing new about celebrity culture. people have been having learned debates about how regular folk relate to celebrities almost as long.

there have long been people like paris hilton, it's just that in the past they didn't have sex tapes, they dressed classier, and didn't always think they needed to *do* things like films and records to justify themselves.

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 23 November 2006 10:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Since the 1840s, when Dickens started doing his American tours.

Except Dickens had talent.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 23 November 2006 11:44 (seventeen years ago) link

better in the sack too

2 american 4 u (blueski), Thursday, 23 November 2006 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link

ha, i really dislike dickens (except for great expectations). in my mind there's no doubt that hilton has produced the better work of art!

why are people so hung up on the question of her "talent" anyway? what kind of talent are they referring to? countless musicians with no discernible ability to sing (from bob dylan to britney spears via every indie act ever) or write songs (almost every popular entertainer in the history of pop music) are feted. what is it about paris which needles people so much more?

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:02 (seventeen years ago) link

also i find it v amusing that about 3 people on this thread have heard the full album and ALL OF THEM LOVE IT.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:02 (seventeen years ago) link

also i find it v amusing that about 3 people on this thread have heard the full album and ALL OF THEM LOVE IT.

absence of proof is not proof of absence.

um re talent -- it's not just her talent that's in question, but her producers', writers', etc.

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:05 (seventeen years ago) link

there's no doubt that hilton has produced the better work of art!
why are people so hung up on the question of her "talent" anyway?

there's no doubt that hilton has produced the better work of art!
why are people so hung up on the question of her "talent" anyway?

there's no doubt that hilton has produced the better work of art!
why are people so hung up on the question of her "talent" anyway?

there's no doubt that hilton has produced the better work of art!
why are people so hung up on the question of her "talent" anyway?

there's no doubt that hilton has produced the better work of art!
why are people so hung up on the question of her "talent" anyway?

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:08 (seventeen years ago) link

pasting is fun

2 american 4 u (blueski), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i know right.

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Hoosten OTM

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:30 (seventeen years ago) link

waht

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:32 (seventeen years ago) link

...countless musicians with no discernible ability to sing (from bob dylan to britney spears via every indie act ever)...are feted. what is it about paris which needles people so much more?

in the case of bob and britney, not that I'm a fan of either, they may not be able to sing like nusrats or buckleys or christinas, but at least they're distinctive, they have character and charisma. you'd recognise their voices in a millisecond.

however, paris's singing voice, while also not exactly technically great, is entirely bland and strangely featureless...much like paris herself. it's the vocal equivalent of special K, and I want coco pops, dammit! with chilli!

mister the guanoman (mister the guanoman), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Special K has a very distinctive malty taste. You might be thinking of Kelloggs Start.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link

i thought he meant ketamine!

coco pops with chilli sounds vile.

paris's voice is very distinctive.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:37 (seventeen years ago) link

does that come with little bits of dried prune? start, I mean, not ketamine.

mister the guanoman (mister the guanoman), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:38 (seventeen years ago) link

They think it's all over is a well known quotation popular in England. It is taken from Kenneth Wolstenholme's BBC TV commentary in the closing moments of the 1966 World Cup, where England beat West Germany 4-2 after extra time to win the FIFA World Cup.

Transcribed, the quotation is:

And here comes Hurst! He's got...

(Wolstenholme's attention is diverted by some of the crowd spilling onto the pitch)

Some people are on the pitch! They think it's all over!

(Geoff Hurst scores to put England two goals ahead)

It is now! It's four!

ITV's commentary for the match as the final concluded with "It's four! It's four!" is not quite as notable, as per the BBC's dominance of the British media at the time.

The fourth goal was allowed to stand, although it was scored as a pitch invasion was in progress. The laws of the game clearly state that in such circumstances, the game has to be stopped because of outside interference of any kind [1].

[edit] In pop culture

The phrase, along with other calls from English football matches, appears in New Order's song "World In Motion". The British band The Dentists called their first album Some People are on the Pitch They Think It's All Over It Is Now in Wolstenholme's honour; the LP begins with a sample of Wolstenholme's original commentary. Track #3 on british folk metal act Skyclad's EP Jig-a-Jig is called "They Think It's All Over". The song contains the phrase "They think it's all over. Well is it now?" in its chorus and includes several references to the '66 World Cup.

The quotation was also used as the title of the BBC's satirical sports quiz show They Think It's All Over, which has appeared on BBC One since 1995. The show has heightened the popularity of the phrase in recent years, though Kenneth Wolstenholme was reportedly unhappy with the use of the phrase for the title of the show.

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Stop!
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Stop! may refer to:

* Stop! (album), a 1988 album by Sam Brown
o "Stop!" (Sam Brown song), a song from this album
o "Stop!", this same song was later covered UK R&B singer Jamelia
* "Stop!", a song by Jane’s Addiction from their 1990 album Ritual de lo Habitual
* Stop!, a 2004 Indian film starring Dia Mirza

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Let Go (Avril Lavigne album)
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Let Go

Studio album by Avril Lavigne
Released June 4, 2002
Genre Pop rock
Length 48:38
Label Arista Records
Producer(s) Antonio "LA" Reid
Professional reviews
All Music Guide link
Rolling Stone link
Metacritic (66/100) linkavril i love u.......

Avril Lavigne chronology
Let Go
(2002) Under My Skin
(2004)



Let Go is the first album by pop rock singer Avril Lavigne, released on June 4, 2002.[1] It was highly successful, being certified platinum six times in the United States and seven times in Australia. In Canada it received a diamond award for surpassing sales of one million. It has sold over 15 million copies

Contents [hide]
1 Track listing
2 Singles
3 References
4 Further reading


[edit] Track listing
"Losing Grip" (A. Lavigne/C. Magness) – 3:53
"Complicated" (A. Lavigne/The Matrix) – 4:05
"Sk8er Boi" (A. Lavigne/The Matrix) – 3:23
"I'm with You" (A. Lavigne/The Matrix) – 3:44
"Mobile" (A. Lavigne/C. Magness) – 3:31
"Unwanted" (A. Lavigne/C. Magness) – 3:40
"Tomorrow" (A. Lavigne/C. Frasca/S. Breer) – 3:48
"Anything but Ordinary" (A. Lavigne/The Matrix) – 4:12
"Things I'll Never Say" (A. Lavigne/The Matrix) – 3:43
"My World" (A. Lavigne/C. Magness) – 3:27
"Nobody's Fool" (A. Lavigne/P. Zizzo) – 3:57
"Too Much to Ask" (A. Lavigne/C. Magness) – 3:45
"Naked" (A. Lavigne/C. Frasca/S. Breer) – 3:29/4:27 1
Enhanced track: "I Don't Give"
1 A longer version of "Naked" was released in several European countries. The song includes longer instrumental parts.


[edit] Singles
"Complicated" was the first single from the album. Its release had a major impact on Lavigne's career, and significantly increased sales of the album. It peaked at number two on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100, number three on the UK chart, and number one in Australia. "Complicated" remains Lavigne's most successful song to date.

"Sk8er Boi" was the second single released from Let Go, with a punk edge. The song went top 10 in the US, UK and Australia, and number 1 in Canada. Nonetheless, it remains one of Lavigne's biggest songs to date. After the upbeat songs "Complicated" and "Sk8er Boi" had their runs globally, Lavigne decided to release a ballad from her album. "I'm with You" performed a little bit better than "Sk8er Boi", peaking at number four on the Billboard Hot 100, number seven in the UK, and number eighteen in Canada.

The alternative rock-influenced "Losing Grip" was the fourth single. It barely gained any airplay or video play in the U.S., peaking at number sixty-four on the Billboard Hot 100, more than fifty spots lower than its three predecessors. It managed a twenty-two place in the UK, and went to number twenty in Australia, probably its highest chart position anywhere in the world. Otherwise its release was unsuccessful. "Mobile" was the fifth single released from the album, and was released in Australia as a radio-only track. It was later used in the 2004 film Wimbledon with Kirsten Dunst.

All four of Avril's singles earned Grammy nominations though none have garnered her an award.[1]


[edit] References
^ AvrilLavigne.com
Avril Lavigne Bandaids Avril Lavigne Fansite
Avril Lavigne Wiki Entry on Let Go

[edit] Further reading
Lyrics
hey my name is guneet & m a screwd up fan of avril & i wana be with her & to do that m starting singing her singles

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_Go_%28Avril_Lavigne_album%29"

benrique (Enrique), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:42 (seventeen years ago) link

GET THAT FOOTBALL SHIT OFF PARIS'S THREAD SHOW SOME RESPECT

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:42 (seventeen years ago) link

ban dom

2 american 4 u (blueski), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:48 (seventeen years ago) link

1. bandom
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The state of being in a band.

I figure, the practice amp i have now is enough for just me, this would be a purchase for bandom.
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dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Who is Paris competing against who might be considered to have earned their fame?

Certainly bona fide porn stars might question the professionalism of her sex tape, pointing to her serious lack of expertise, an expertise which can surely come only from many hours of practice. Nick Carter has already been openly scathing on this point.

But in the field of the kind of pop music Paris makes - fluffy pop music light on vocal pyrotechnics - who are her competitors? Britney obv... Emma Bunton? Mandy Moore once but she now seems so pseudo-deep indie...

Do such singers "earn" their fame? Britney was instantly famous when "Baby One More Time" was released. Emma likewise via the Spice Girls. Mandy was probably pretty big, but has certainly worked hard to swap this in favour of indie cred.

Arguably Paris has worked harder to prepare the way for the emergence of the pop star Paris than most other pop stars of the same style do: the millions leading to the sex-tape leading to the trashy club image leading to the reality TV show culminating in the music. She's really like Britney in reverse.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:06 (seventeen years ago) link

How long did it take before people started showing that old clip of Britney on the Disney Club? I don't know if that was something ever used from the get go to illustrate her 'grounding' in the field or just used to point and laugh at her but obv. it didn't have any negative effect.

2 american 4 u (blueski), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Lex thinks Paris >>>> Dickens - OK, this thread has now officially jumped the shark.

Also can I emphasise that I'm not criticising her album because it's her. I'm criticising it because it is a poor pop record.

I've heard the forthcoming Emma Bunton album and it's great!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Additionally I have listened to both the Paris album in full as well as the Danger Mouse remix, as I think I made fairly clear several hundred posts ago.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Bunton's 'Downtown' is useless so am assuming that's not on the album.

2 american 4 u (blueski), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:28 (seventeen years ago) link


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