Velvet Underground Trainspotting Question

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Has anyone heard this? (or perhaps, more appropriately would anyone want to hear this?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_V.U._1971%E2%80%931973

Internet Alan, Thursday, 18 October 2012 08:30 (eleven years ago) link

I downloaded it long ago but didn't make it through the first disc. It was pretty rough going as far as I remember.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

But parts of it have more VU members than parts of Loaded, so it couldn't be all bad...?

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

Doug, Sterl and Moe?

Mark G, Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

I see a 'copy' every so often, but it's an old-fashioned "hueg" box set and wants 'carrying'...

Mark G, Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

doug and moe are on it, morrison is not. it's not great by any stretch of the imagination, but it has its moments.

tylerw, Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link

If I recall, the first time the (this) VU toured the UK, Lou was over touring himself..

Mark G, Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

The post-Lou V.U. seem way more rooted in rock'n'roll. That set reminded me of Jason & the Scorchers or somebody.
Didn't think it was that bad, maybe even good if it wasn't that particular band. Do think they were paying quite a few of the better known Velvets tracks, but has been a while since I heard it.

Stevolende, Friday, 19 October 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

haha, have you got the one with Cale's keyboard that has a speech bubble saying "SCREE!"
for some reason that's always stuck in my head

Just reading this now because of this thread. That one takes place at The Exploding Plastic Eisteddfod.

Cosmic Fopp (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:45 (eleven years ago) link

RIght, seeing as how that "Final VU" box is £25 on ebay, I've ordered one.

We Shall See!

Mark G, Monday, 22 October 2012 12:15 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Have you guys heard that one where Lou is teaching someone -Nico?- the words to "Venus in Furs" whilst somebody else- Sterl and John? - is playing a Bo Diddley song?

Do You Like POLL Music? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 November 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that should be part of the rehearsal segment of the new box set. aren't they playing "love is strange" too?

tylerw, Friday, 9 November 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

Xp: Guess it's from The Factory Rehearsal: http://open.spotify.com/track/70XPQA0sXtX90xbx6hZ0Lg

Says "Crackin' Up" which sounds like "Love is Strange" so I split the difference.

Do You Like POLL Music? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 November 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

RIght, seeing as how that "Final VU" box is £25 on ebay, I've ordered one.

We Shall See!

― Mark G, Monday, 22 October 2012 12:15 (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well, I got one, and have played CD1 so far.

It's funny, out of all four CDs, Doug Yule only sings one song, one time, that he sang while Lou was in the band: "Oh Sweet Nothing".

No "Candy Says", "Who loves the sun", "New Age", "She's my best Friend", nope.

Mark G, Monday, 26 November 2012 12:41 (eleven years ago) link

VU-related, in some important/amazing ways--be there or be square, Jim:
http://boo-hooray.com/barbara-rubin/christmas-on-earth---barbara-rubin/

dow, Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFaOyQbDTKs

Sweet Sister Ray

Campari G&T, Saturday, 23 March 2013 13:03 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

http://philipjohnsonglasshouse.wordpress.com/2012/02/13/1967-glass-house-country-happening-with-merce-cunningham-john-cage-the-velvet-underground/
The film is archival footage of an event held at the Glass House in 1967 to benefit the Merce Cunningham Dance Company. Described as a “Country Happening” in Vogue Magazine, August 1967, Merce Cunningham dancers performed to music by John Cage, and later the Velvet Underground took the stage.
can't actually see any VU in the film, but maybe those groovy dancers at the end are twisting it to sister ray? funny to imagine the VU playing such a pastoral setting.

tylerw, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

Believe there is another thread about that.

Gallucci Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 October 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link

But surely we need to spread the word that there is a free flexidisc with every initial order from the website. I think it may be a track inside the package already but just think, rarity free with every £54.99 plus p+p spent there.

Stevolende, Friday, 11 October 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link

While stocks last !!!!!

Stevolende, Friday, 11 October 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

This is where The End of Cole Ave once stood. This is where much of Live 1969 was recorded. *sigh*

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 27 October 2013 23:02 (ten years ago) link

"much" = less than half?

what's worse, that pic or this one?
http://www.matrixfillmore.com/images/photos/about/image-gallery/img5.jpg

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 27 October 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link

sorry, "some" or "a chunk" or "the best songs from".

I never listen to 1969 anymore. Listen to the boot of the End of Cole Ave show instead.

IS that the Matrix? I couldn't bring myself to go by there when I was in San Francisco last week.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 27 October 2013 23:50 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

http://velvetundergroundacetate.com/
who's gonna buy it?!

tylerw, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link

Also, wtf the wooden box artifact?

Mark G, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:19 (nine years ago) link

They better include a free banana with that.

StanM, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://24.media.tumblr.com/b78978798405088c6a4f856da77bdbbc/tumblr_n6nkmwuEcV1t5kowbo1_500.jpg
feel like "train round the bonnnnd" is how nico would've sung that song.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 19:21 (nine years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Chelsea Girls sdtk: http://www.volcanictongue.com/tips

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link

Are there any samples of this online anywhere? Saw it here:

http://littlebigchief.bigcartel.com/product/velvet-underground-chelsea-girls-s-sided-lp

and they have another record I'm interested in, http://littlebigchief.bigcartel.com/product/alien-city-lp

but I don't love to spend good money on new records I haven't heard these days.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 04:07 (nine years ago) link

https://scontent-a-pao.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10521177_10152567944675953_6049362458093982150_n.jpg
from lou's facebook page:

We thought it'd be cool to share a photograph of one of the more "mythical" artifacts of Lou and the VU.

Lou mentioned this in an interview a while back (Q Magazine in 1996, I think), that he'd recently unearthed a demo he had mailed to himself in 1965, the reason for which is known as "the poor man's copyright."

In classic Lou style, he had this to say about the discovery:
"I'm not going to listen it. I don't want to hear these things any more."

Well, here's what it looks like. And no, we haven't opened it.

tylerw, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link

would be interesting if it was different stuff than the demo released on Peel Slowly & See

as for the chelsea girls sdtk, i think this is at least part of it. sounds pretty great, would be curious to know if the bootleg is better sound quality (which is dire)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YUIKvSQ2so

tylerw, Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

According to the post below (originally from the Velvet Forum, reposted on Steve Hoffman), 3rd LP box coming:

Hi all

Good to see that folks are starting to wonder about the status of the 3rd Deluxe 45th.

So far Universal has been doing an excelent job with the Banana and Wl/Wh Deluxe sets, and the 3rd Album will not be an exception. Our guys will take good care of us!
This is what I can say at this point: a selection of the Peter Abrams Soundboard Tapes half inch, 4-track, stereo live recordings of the band at The Matrix Nov 1969 will be part of the Deluxe issue. The quality of these recordings is absolutely fanstatic
and the performances are superb.
As you know there are 42 songs in 4 hours of recordings. Universal still working on which songs will appear, looks like 20 songs in 2 cds. Night and day with the Quine Tapes and Live 1969.

Juts these 2 cds will make the 3rd Deluxe a must for any VU fan.

Stay tuned

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 11 August 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link

oh my god the Matrix recordings!!!!!!!

sleeve, Monday, 11 August 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link

fanstatic indeed!

StanM, Monday, 11 August 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link

hmm this is the one I may have to get, if true

Οὖτις, Monday, 11 August 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link

this would be nice. Hope it's true.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 11 August 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link

So, presumably it will be
CD1: Stereo + singles/promos
CD2: Mono + "VU" + "Another View" and a couple more rarities/unreleased
CD3+4 : Matrix selections

Mark G, Monday, 11 August 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link

Not all of VU etc, obv, just the Yule tracks

Mark G, Monday, 11 August 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link

I hope there is a cheap version of this with the live material. Though the 4 disc described above makes sense

Stevolende, Monday, 11 August 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link

will they include the closet mix and the regular mix, I wonder? This is looking like a must buy

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Monday, 11 August 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link

As you know there are 42 songs in 4 hours of recordings.

SO RELEASE THEM ALL!!

Sporkies Finalist (stevie), Monday, 11 August 2014 18:55 (nine years ago) link

I was thinking that too, but I'm wondering if the other half (or near-half) has already been released on Live 1969. Because those are (mostly? kind of?) the same tapes, right?

And anyway, if they release part of the shows on this box, and then later release a Complete Live Matrix Recordings box, knowing Velvets fans will buy both, it's win-win! For Universal!

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 11 August 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link

closet mix is so pointless

Οὖτις, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link

...except for the alternate 'Some Kinda Love", which is amazing

sleeve, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link

yeah that's the main diff. excited for the matrix stuff! it's about time. yeah, they might just go with stuff that is not the same performances as on Live 1969.

tylerw, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link

Yeah I'm p squarely in the regular mix camp, just curious how complete this'll be. I guess closet mix could be left as an enticement to backlist banana box purchasers.

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Monday, 11 August 2014 19:38 (nine years ago) link

Yeah..

There was a mono third l.p. In the sundazed box, which 'version' was it, closet or Valentin?

Mark G, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link

(which is the definition of a Velvet Underground trainspotting question)

Mark G, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link

vu & nico was 6 discs, right? this could easily be 6 discs if they decide to include the closet mix + "lost album" material. I think levenson has said that session tapes exist for the album, so there may be some cool alternates or or chatter. lou telling doug how to sing candy says, etc.

tylerw, Monday, 11 August 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link


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