I am beginning to become scared that Romney/Ryan will win. Can smart people please post here and say reassuring things to convince me that he won't?

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man that last debate was so weird

beef richards (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

that person actually seems pretty informed and rational as far as undecided voters go!

iatee, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, i'd agree w/ him that obama gets an F- on limiting abortion. i mean, a solid grade on not limiting abortions, but on limiting abortions he's been pretty mediocre

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

There's no such thing as an F-. He has totally been discredited.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

i fucking hate undecided voters, how can you possibly be undecided

beef richards (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

That snl short was in fact a documentary.

controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

some dark part of me wants romney to win. i'd like to be alive for america's inevitable caligua phase.

Spectrum, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

you already were

iatee, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

i can only hope that right obama is pacing around an dusty warehouse punching walls and swallowing beef curtain jerky whole, psyching himself up

down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

great, now Romney's Caligula. Can't wait to see where you guys head with this in 2 weeks.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

libya thing worries me, biden looked v unprepared, now theyve got clinton taking responsibility

--bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

It's over.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

who won?

down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

nah if that woulda been a thing it woulda been a thing by now

xp

iatee, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

The Libya thing...I'm not bothered that it took 3 weeks to get the story out to the public correctly. I am bothered that there was an intelligence breakdown that allowed it in the first place. Weird how the media seems to be focusing on the former.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

wasn't the Libyan envoy gay? why wd Repugs give a fuck then?

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

My mother is undecided I have no idea why the fuck why though

homosexual II, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

romney's not caligula, but in my imagination he'd set the stage for a 200-year reign of intricately incestuous ruling families and their increasingly debased kin. but after g w b, i'm thinking lag~~n might be right.

Spectrum, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

i don't think it'll be the end of the world if romney wins. america is pretty resilient and 4 years is not that long a time and romney will not get the chance to do too much dmg i don't think (and that's even assuming he wants to and doesn't just turn out to be technocratic moderate)

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

Just appoint a couple of judges to the Supreme Court and other federal appeals courts. No big deal

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

also, liberals can pretend to care about civil liberties & extrajudicial executions again.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

why people care so damn much about abortion BAFFLES THE SHIT OUT OF ME

homosexual II, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

xxxxpost

At this point, I'm honestly more interested in smart people saying reassuring things to convince me that things won't go to absolute hell if Romney does win.

Gyrate For Physicet (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

it won't be the end of the world != it's no big deal

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

Just appoint a couple of judges to the Supreme Court and other federal appeals courts. No big deal

Yeah, this is the scariest prospect, imo.

Gyrate For Physicet (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

also, liberals can pretend to care about civil liberties & extrajudicial executions again.

― cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:37 PM (56 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is not nothing!

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

then go back to not pretending. HILLARY 2016

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

i don't see any daylight between romney + obama on foreign affairs + war on terror except re tone. obama is more subtle, serious, discursive, romney would be more aggressive, threatening, both would probably deploy same # of drones, both would probably execute iranian strategy in same way (i think, this one i'm not sure of)

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

i don't mean discursive

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

but like analytic maybe

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

if Mitt wins only death will get a lib to leave the Supremes.

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

Too bad for Romney the death squads will be dismantled when he presumes office.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

(i.e. panels; I'm out of practice)

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

i bet you $10,000 that if romney wins he won't touch obamacare

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

So let's say Romney wins, the house maintains a GOP majority, but the senate stays DEM. Any chance at all Obamacare actually gets repealed? Mitt can't veto anything, right? And it's already passed Supreme Court muster. I guess he could repeal with an executive order, but maybe he couldn't.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

romney much more likely to bring back torture -- can't really see obama reversing himself on that one.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

Ryan and the GOP already have a plan to pass his budget through another reconciliation magic trick, I read yesterday on Chait's site. I don't know if that's possible.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah, torture for sure coming back.

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

thank god the mormons wait until jews are dead before they forcibly convert us whew

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

i don't see any daylight between romney + obama on foreign affairs + war on terror except re tone.

Diplomatic skill, genuine interest and empathy, etc.

timellison, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

that's just a morbz open basket imho

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

"empathy" there

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

Oh well.

timellison, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

well who knows what romney would do re foreign policy if elected, the fact that all hes said abt it basically amounts to get tough leads me to believe he could be quite a bit worse than obama, unless hes just blustering and war w/iran is not really a thing he wants, which is completely w/in the realm of possibility

--bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

WHO DO YOU TRUST MORE ON IRAN

timellison, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

hes just blustering and war w/iran is not really a thing he wants, which is completely w/in the realm of possibility

All of his wild west foreign policy words have been put in his mouth imo. Of course, if he'll do it in a campaign, he'll be just as much a piece of clay in office.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

my impression is that the circumstances that determine whether we go to war w/ iran or not has very little to do w/ whether obama or romney is in office

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

our torture has just been outsourced

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

like, obama has said that military intervention is on the table re stopping nuclear iran. that he will not allow iran to get nuclear weapons. and he's actually president! to believe that obama won't go to war w/ iran takes a bigger leap of faith than believing romney won't go to war w/ iran.

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link


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