They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

if you can't have the deleted scenes you'd love, love the deleted scenes you have.

also irony - on a ship packed full of smarty pants ppl, janek is the one who figures out exactly what the place is, because he's not blinded by desire & ideology

doesn't matter, still gets squashed like a bug

whats the point of trying so hard to like a failure, put yr helmet back on folks

― --bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:11 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Damn... but enough about your posts.

faced

ZIIIIINNNGGSSSS INNN SPAAAAACCCCCCEE

the captain's the only decent person in the movie, guess what, doesn't matter

― space dokken (Edward III), Monday, October 15, 2012 10:50 PM (1 hour ago)

gtfo with this Stephen Stills bullshit.

genius of the movie appears to be that you can impose fanfic themes to it with particular ease, must be something to do with the type of 3d

*a good to very good sci-fi that is, as Edward notes, sneakily misanthropic and a very intriguing creation myth both for mankind and the alien films. Plus scary and gorgeous looking.

This thread is swinging me in this direction, but there really isn't anything sneaky about this film.

it is kind of interesting that the movie's supporters in this thread seem to like it so much. Watching it multiple times, buying 4 Disc Blu-rays etc

probably some form of space madness tbf

catcher in the pie in the sky

there was something weird about idris elba's performance, like he had no concept he was supposed to be a character in the future, or that his employer isn't actually contemporary actress charlize theron.

my theory is that elba was basically attempting to be tommy lee jones! i'd say he succeeded about 60% of the time - pretty impressive for a black british dude

so anyway i got the dvd and remembered again why i never watch extras or commentary tracks y because i like movies not documentaries about movies

documentaries ARE movies

yeah, movies that SUCK

just kidding, I love documentaries

Documentaries about movies?

burden of dreams is my jam

Los angeles plays itself

i like movies not documentaries about movies

especially fawning documentaries about movies basically made by the people who made the movies

Does Onion still do Commentary Tracks of the Damned? I remember that being pretty hilarious every once in a while.

I read their John Carter one a few days ago. Hopefully this will be on its way.

Starting my Aliens marathon tonight with the first two!

i'd recommend a half marathon there tbph

He's right - Predator 2 / Alien vs Predator / Aliens vs Predator : Requiem / Prometheus are strictly optional.

oh come on, pred 2 is totes canon

aliens 3 and 4 are sitting on my shelf, unwatched; i saw them in the cinema, can't remember a thing about them

thinkin about crackin open a tallboy and just doin it

I did an Alien marathon before watching Prometheus, 1 and 2 are the only ones worth bothering with.

Go for it I say - I'm not going to claim "oh the true connoisseurs of the series prefer them to the vulgar charms of the first two", partly because four is pure vulgar charm, but that sounds like a good time.

i'd agree, 3 & 4 are worth catching, in very different ways

3 is p rad imho

I hate 3, I will hate Fincher forever based on that movie.

haha

I love them all

Well, Alien, Alien Gunfight, Alien Prison, and Alien: The Frenchening, at least

And eventually Guy Pearce can play himself in the docudrama version. Or something.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/oct/17/young-blood-reverse-effects-ageing

Remarkably, the North Korean dictator might have been onto something.

words we should probably not use very often

Remarkably, the North Korean dictator might have been onto something.

title of my memoirs

very tempted to start

Remarkably, the North Korean dictator might have been onto something (lag∞n appreciation thread)

http://blip.tv/redlettermedia/red-letter-media-talks-about-prometheus-on-dvd-6397461 not essential but a cute followup

Watched Alien, Aliens and Alien 3. Alien managed to frighten me a few times, great cast and nice for setting the story. Aliens seemed hokey with awful scenery and the mother alien killed any horror the film could've had. Alien 3 was at least against a believable backdrop and only one alien again, which seems to work better. I think what disappoints me the most about the Alien series is it never pays off the promise set out in the first film. An now after watching prometheus, I guess I get it. Engineers created us through a mishap or experiment, only to create a bioweapon that would create the Alien which then we would continue to attempt to catch in order to create our own weapon from. I feel like I should go one and watch 4 and the other two Vs movies, but I'm running out of steam.

i have to say i still found this to be a pretty rich movie on a 2nd viewing. just so many suggestive little touches.

the (beautiful) opening shots of ragged/irregular patterns in nature sort of play off a bit of dialogue later in the film: "God doesn't create in straight lines." Underscoring at once the Engineers as false gods and the peril of the "promethean" urge to technological creation.

There's also a few exchanges that struck me as significant thematically. When the first helmet comes off:
Shaw: Don't be an idiot!
Holloway: Don't be a skeptic!

And of course where Holloway answers David's question about his creation with "Because we could" and David responds "Wouldn't it be the disappointing to receive the same answer from your God" or something to that effect.

Also, it's definitely Weyland's misguided quest for immortality that seems to set the whole horror show in motion. If this movie is the work of a believer (and I think it is) then it's nicely old fashioned about it. It's a classic hubris smack down.

Aliens is not a horror flick. Cameron knew he couldn't do better, so he deliberately switched genre and went for sci-fi actioner instead.

Prometheus is still fuckin' stupid thanks to Lindelof and Scott enabling each others' worst habits

i also like the contrast between David's nihilism and Shaw's increasingly feeble faith. at what point does "i choose to believe" simply become denial?

and there's an funny little theme of "unwanted children" running throughout. Vickers, squid baby, humans, and the xenomorph itself. something odious even in the fact of biological reproduction--perhaps it's too organic, too much based in our own mechanical/biological natures to really satisfy in the way a technological creation would, which springs forth from disembodied ideas.

the only two parts that were really galling in their stupidity were, of course, the biologist approach the snake-like creature and Elba and crew sacrificing themselves. the second is at least set up by dialogue but it's perfunctory.

it's doubly weird since both scenarios could have been written differently and actually made 100x more interesting. it's like they knew "X" had to happen and just tool the shortest way to get there.

How is the crew sacrifice stupid?

how is everything else not!

the crew sacrifice is "stupid" because elba's co-navigator buddies weren't narrowly following their own optimized self-interest, an unforgivable lapse in believability apparently

Stupid is pushing it. I take that back. But it's literally set up by dialogue like 15 minutes before (where Elba says his only concern is that none of "that stuff" gets back to earth). It plays as a rather ham fisted dramatic moment but I think they could have written some much more exciting way for them to stop the engineer and die in the process.

The 15 minute before scene is hilarious because he is saying this to Noomi Rapace, who has just take some rather more committed steps towards the same principles.