They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

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she was born to play the part of a performance-driven ice queen who makes bad decisions, I mean did you see reindeer games

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:37 (eleven years ago) link

ok y'all we really just need to have a poll to resolve this at this point - - - possible answers:

* prometheus: the second coming of space jesus, all lapses are intentional to intensify space madness, possible camp classic
* prometheus: the worst, most disappointing movie of 2012, depending what you thought about the dark knight rises
* prometheus: some nice effects, but actually kind've a crap film

others?

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:39 (eleven years ago) link

*a good to very good sci-fi that is, as Edward notes, sneakily misanthropic and a very intriguing creation myth both for mankind and the alien films. Plus scary and gorgeous looking.

ryan, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:46 (eleven years ago) link

prometheus: not as bad as phantom menace, not as good as twin peaks: fire walk with me

re: being born to play a part, michael jackson could be born to play captain EO but if they put captain EO in prometheus, it'd be just "hey that's michael jackson!"

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:48 (eleven years ago) link

Sticking with my "david is dead set on destroying humanity" interpretation. As such, movie is pretty fucking awesome

costly pussy riot (jjjusten), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:48 (eleven years ago) link

this is a movie where a traumatized woman climbs inside a surgical robot to forcibly remove a parasite alien from her uterus, then afterwards an android says to her "I didn't know you had it in you uh sorry poor choice of words"

ZIIIIINNNGGSSSS IN SPAAAAACCCCCCEE

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:50 (eleven years ago) link

Excited to rewatch this and see if that holds up throughout actually, but chucking all the special features on bluray which I have not given a fuck about yet makes me all HULK SMASH so it might be a while.

costly pussy riot (jjjusten), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:51 (eleven years ago) link

Totally happy to reexamine the whole Ridley Scott catalog with the humans are a disease theory, it sure works for blade runner

costly pussy riot (jjjusten), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:53 (eleven years ago) link

dude you're gonna watch this on DVD? might as well order the hand cranked 8mm

can we launch a kickstarter to get jjjusten a blu ray player

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:55 (eleven years ago) link

re: "only cliche missing is a kid hacker", i was thinking noomi rapace as lisbeth salander would have improved the movie quite a bit, and makes the quick-thinking medicaesarian scene more plausible for her character. also this movie could use more piercings.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:56 (eleven years ago) link

this is a movie where a traumatized woman climbs inside a surgical robot to forcibly remove a parasite alien from her uterus, then afterwards an android says to her "I didn't know you had it in you uh sorry poor choice of words"

ZIIIIINNNGGSSSS IN SPAAAAACCCCCCEE

― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:50 AM (5 minutes ago)

oh I forgot to add the surgical robot refuses to operate on her cuz she's a woman

fully expect the next movie to start with shaw and david approaching the engineer galaxy where they are confronted by an alien hieroglyphic billboard that reads WE DID IT 4 THE LULZ

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:04 (eleven years ago) link

projecting a sense of humor onto this movie is really scraping bottom, whats the point of trying so hard to like a failure, put yr helmet back on folks

--bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:11 (eleven years ago) link

if you didn't see the humor in it I feel sorry for you on the internet, which is the worst place to feel sorry for somebody

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:15 (eleven years ago) link

lol look at you and this terrible movie holding hands

--bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:17 (eleven years ago) link

just go back and retread yr many descriptions of the thing and see if theres any cohearance or continuity operating

--bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:18 (eleven years ago) link

you want to take slockis camp masterpiece out but can't quite admit it to yrself

--bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:20 (eleven years ago) link

fully expect the next movie to start with shaw and david approaching the engineer galaxy where they are confronted by an alien hieroglyphic billboard that reads WE DID IT 4 THE LULZ

― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:04 AM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean u realize this is not the tone they were reaching for

--bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:22 (eleven years ago) link

y so serious

the late great, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:24 (eleven years ago) link

if you all would just put yr helmets back on then maybe we can talk like adults do

--bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:25 (eleven years ago) link

there are so many sardonic moments and bleak ironies in this movie

holloway gets poisoned by the robot boy wonder he constantly belittles

fifield + biologist get killed in the place they desperately try to flee

shaw risks her life to bring back an engineer head that she blows up first chance she gets (with science!)

then she gets the baby she always wanted

the captain goes down with the ship

vickers' every decision is about her own survival but she can't make a 90 degree turn to save her life

weyland, the most powerful man in the film, travels across the galaxy to get clubbed like a baby seal

david runs game on everybody until he gets his head ripped off, even the robot's hubris is rewarded

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:37 (eleven years ago) link

i found it bleakly ironic too how the spaceship is built to fly but at the end it crashes. also how its called a space ship but in the end its not in space.

--bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:41 (eleven years ago) link

and how everyone is alive and they want to stay alive but then at the end they die

--bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:41 (eleven years ago) link

knew I'd win you over eventually

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:42 (eleven years ago) link

wait why does the captain go down with the ship? he just seemed conveniently selfless at that point (also his pilot buddy, too, who we also don't see much characterization from) so much of this movie actually does feel like "yeah whatever, we did it for the lulz"

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:46 (eleven years ago) link

the captain's the only decent person in the movie, guess what, doesn't matter

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:50 (eleven years ago) link

wait what did the pilot do to disqualify himself from the ledger of decency?

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:00 (eleven years ago) link

idle gambling w/ the navigator

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:04 (eleven years ago) link

^ this was some tv-level bullshit, I grant you

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:05 (eleven years ago) link

gambling's worse than propositioning your boss?

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:05 (eleven years ago) link

, is yr boss charlize theron

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:06 (eleven years ago) link

he's fine but he's not a properly characterized person, he's more of a decent dotted outline.

estela, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:06 (eleven years ago) link

there are ledgers of decency and then there's I'd light that ledger on fire and put it out w/ piss for some of that

I am speaking strictly about character motivation of course

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:11 (eleven years ago) link

there was something weird about idris elba's performance, like he had no concept he was supposed to be a character in the future, or that his employer isn't actually contemporary actress charlize theron.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:17 (eleven years ago) link

of all the inexplicable character behavior contained within prometheus, capt janek's interest in the highly annoying ms vickers is the least newsworthy

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:18 (eleven years ago) link

p sure they were going for some kinda man-out-of-his-time feel w/ janek, a noble throwback, hence the nonsense with the squeezebox & xmas tree

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:21 (eleven years ago) link

they are both extremely attractive people and should totally be doing it to each other sex style

--bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:21 (eleven years ago) link

this movie couldve gone a long way toward redeeming itself w/some hot elba on theron lovemaking footage

--bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:24 (eleven years ago) link

^ real talk

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:26 (eleven years ago) link

*checks deleted scenes, sighs*

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:26 (eleven years ago) link

if you can't have the deleted scenes you'd love, love the deleted scenes you have.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:32 (eleven years ago) link

also irony - on a ship packed full of smarty pants ppl, janek is the one who figures out exactly what the place is, because he's not blinded by desire & ideology

doesn't matter, still gets squashed like a bug

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:32 (eleven years ago) link

whats the point of trying so hard to like a failure, put yr helmet back on folks

― --bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:11 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Damn... but enough about your posts.

turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:32 (eleven years ago) link

faced

--bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:34 (eleven years ago) link

ZIIIIINNNGGSSSS INNN SPAAAAACCCCCCEE

space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:37 (eleven years ago) link

the captain's the only decent person in the movie, guess what, doesn't matter

― space dokken (Edward III), Monday, October 15, 2012 10:50 PM (1 hour ago)

gtfo with this Stephen Stills bullshit.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:57 (eleven years ago) link

genius of the movie appears to be that you can impose fanfic themes to it with particular ease, must be something to do with the type of 3d

the oft-posited third fisherman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 08:30 (eleven years ago) link

*a good to very good sci-fi that is, as Edward notes, sneakily misanthropic and a very intriguing creation myth both for mankind and the alien films. Plus scary and gorgeous looking.

This thread is swinging me in this direction, but there really isn't anything sneaky about this film.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 08:32 (eleven years ago) link

it is kind of interesting that the movie's supporters in this thread seem to like it so much. Watching it multiple times, buying 4 Disc Blu-rays etc

Number None, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 08:33 (eleven years ago) link

probably some form of space madness tbf

Number None, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 08:36 (eleven years ago) link

catcher in the pie in the sky

the oft-posited third fisherman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 08:42 (eleven years ago) link


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