ts: humans are stupid, watch the universe fuck them over vs. humans are stupid but blue indians are cool
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 03:41 (eleven years ago) link
the dumb unrealistic behavior was only the most obvious terrible thing abt the movie, but lots of other things were bad too, the pacing the dialog the having any point and making you care abt anything thats happening in it, so its fine to be all I know it sucked but I liked it anyway but its just not a v realistic reaction
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Monday, October 15, 2012 11:33 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
basically
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 03:42 (eleven years ago) link
im giving you guys an out with the camp classic thing
we can all walk away and save face here
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 03:43 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― ryan, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 03:43 (eleven years ago) link
the pacing - actually think pacing is one of its strong points! it's not like it drags anywhere, even on my first go-round when I thought it was totally ludicrous I was never boredthe dialog - this is like a 50/50, most of the stupid dialogue goes hand in hand w/ the bizarre motivations, david's dialogue is uniformly excellent, and I can quote a whole lot of dialog from this so it's at least memorably terriblethe having any point - humans are stupid, watch the universe fuck them overmaking you care abt anything thats happening in it - realizing the film holds a kubrick-like disdain for its characters helps. I recoiled from the unlikable holloway until I figured out the second time around that we're not supposed to like him.
so its fine to be all I know it sucked but I liked it anyway but its just not a v realistic reaction
we were SO wrong
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
I wish I knew how to quit you s1ocki
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:12 (eleven years ago) link
but I can't walk away
also it's a damn good-looking film too
― the late great, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:13 (eleven years ago) link
is there something to the camp angle? maybe? vickers is like a drag king in space I guess. it's prolly my fave theron performance, even better than monster which means she should win an academy award for this.
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:21 (eleven years ago) link
u r literally insane
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:23 (eleven years ago) link
I'm starting the campaign now, give her a statue, hell give er two, this perfomance is better than monster + north country put together
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:28 (eleven years ago) link
i don't think people like their apple store in space secret origin of mankind scifi campy or funny, otherwise hitchhiker's would have gotten more love.
re: vickers -- charlize theron looks too much like charlize theron to register as anyone but charlize theron. (weirdly, same problem with guy pearce even under all that weird makeup)
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:31 (eleven years ago) link
she was born to play the part of a performance-driven ice queen who makes bad decisions, I mean did you see reindeer games
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:37 (eleven years ago) link
ok y'all we really just need to have a poll to resolve this at this point - - - possible answers:
* prometheus: the second coming of space jesus, all lapses are intentional to intensify space madness, possible camp classic* prometheus: the worst, most disappointing movie of 2012, depending what you thought about the dark knight rises* prometheus: some nice effects, but actually kind've a crap film
others?
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:39 (eleven years ago) link
*a good to very good sci-fi that is, as Edward notes, sneakily misanthropic and a very intriguing creation myth both for mankind and the alien films. Plus scary and gorgeous looking.
― ryan, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:46 (eleven years ago) link
prometheus: not as bad as phantom menace, not as good as twin peaks: fire walk with me
re: being born to play a part, michael jackson could be born to play captain EO but if they put captain EO in prometheus, it'd be just "hey that's michael jackson!"
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:48 (eleven years ago) link
Sticking with my "david is dead set on destroying humanity" interpretation. As such, movie is pretty fucking awesome
― costly pussy riot (jjjusten), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:48 (eleven years ago) link
this is a movie where a traumatized woman climbs inside a surgical robot to forcibly remove a parasite alien from her uterus, then afterwards an android says to her "I didn't know you had it in you uh sorry poor choice of words"
ZIIIIINNNGGSSSS IN SPAAAAACCCCCCEE
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:50 (eleven years ago) link
Excited to rewatch this and see if that holds up throughout actually, but chucking all the special features on bluray which I have not given a fuck about yet makes me all HULK SMASH so it might be a while.
― costly pussy riot (jjjusten), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:51 (eleven years ago) link
Totally happy to reexamine the whole Ridley Scott catalog with the humans are a disease theory, it sure works for blade runner
― costly pussy riot (jjjusten), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:53 (eleven years ago) link
dude you're gonna watch this on DVD? might as well order the hand cranked 8mm
can we launch a kickstarter to get jjjusten a blu ray player
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:55 (eleven years ago) link
re: "only cliche missing is a kid hacker", i was thinking noomi rapace as lisbeth salander would have improved the movie quite a bit, and makes the quick-thinking medicaesarian scene more plausible for her character. also this movie could use more piercings.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:56 (eleven years ago) link
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:50 AM (5 minutes ago)
oh I forgot to add the surgical robot refuses to operate on her cuz she's a woman
fully expect the next movie to start with shaw and david approaching the engineer galaxy where they are confronted by an alien hieroglyphic billboard that reads WE DID IT 4 THE LULZ
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:04 (eleven years ago) link
projecting a sense of humor onto this movie is really scraping bottom, whats the point of trying so hard to like a failure, put yr helmet back on folks
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:11 (eleven years ago) link
if you didn't see the humor in it I feel sorry for you on the internet, which is the worst place to feel sorry for somebody
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:15 (eleven years ago) link
lol look at you and this terrible movie holding hands
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:17 (eleven years ago) link
just go back and retread yr many descriptions of the thing and see if theres any cohearance or continuity operating
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:18 (eleven years ago) link
you want to take slockis camp masterpiece out but can't quite admit it to yrself
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:20 (eleven years ago) link
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:04 AM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I mean u realize this is not the tone they were reaching for
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:22 (eleven years ago) link
y so serious
― the late great, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:24 (eleven years ago) link
if you all would just put yr helmets back on then maybe we can talk like adults do
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:25 (eleven years ago) link
there are so many sardonic moments and bleak ironies in this movie
holloway gets poisoned by the robot boy wonder he constantly belittles
fifield + biologist get killed in the place they desperately try to flee
shaw risks her life to bring back an engineer head that she blows up first chance she gets (with science!)
then she gets the baby she always wanted
the captain goes down with the ship
vickers' every decision is about her own survival but she can't make a 90 degree turn to save her life
weyland, the most powerful man in the film, travels across the galaxy to get clubbed like a baby seal
david runs game on everybody until he gets his head ripped off, even the robot's hubris is rewarded
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:37 (eleven years ago) link
i found it bleakly ironic too how the spaceship is built to fly but at the end it crashes. also how its called a space ship but in the end its not in space.
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:41 (eleven years ago) link
and how everyone is alive and they want to stay alive but then at the end they die
knew I'd win you over eventually
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:42 (eleven years ago) link
wait why does the captain go down with the ship? he just seemed conveniently selfless at that point (also his pilot buddy, too, who we also don't see much characterization from) so much of this movie actually does feel like "yeah whatever, we did it for the lulz"
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:46 (eleven years ago) link
the captain's the only decent person in the movie, guess what, doesn't matter
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 05:50 (eleven years ago) link
wait what did the pilot do to disqualify himself from the ledger of decency?
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:00 (eleven years ago) link
idle gambling w/ the navigator
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:04 (eleven years ago) link
^ this was some tv-level bullshit, I grant you
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:05 (eleven years ago) link
gambling's worse than propositioning your boss?
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:05 (eleven years ago) link
, is yr boss charlize theron
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:06 (eleven years ago) link
he's fine but he's not a properly characterized person, he's more of a decent dotted outline.
― estela, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:06 (eleven years ago) link
there are ledgers of decency and then there's I'd light that ledger on fire and put it out w/ piss for some of that
I am speaking strictly about character motivation of course
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:11 (eleven years ago) link
there was something weird about idris elba's performance, like he had no concept he was supposed to be a character in the future, or that his employer isn't actually contemporary actress charlize theron.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:17 (eleven years ago) link
of all the inexplicable character behavior contained within prometheus, capt janek's interest in the highly annoying ms vickers is the least newsworthy
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:18 (eleven years ago) link
p sure they were going for some kinda man-out-of-his-time feel w/ janek, a noble throwback, hence the nonsense with the squeezebox & xmas tree
― space dokken (Edward III), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:21 (eleven years ago) link
they are both extremely attractive people and should totally be doing it to each other sex style
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:21 (eleven years ago) link
this movie couldve gone a long way toward redeeming itself w/some hot elba on theron lovemaking footage
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:24 (eleven years ago) link