~~~~~nutrition nazis 2012~~~~~

Mixes it in things that mask its horrible, horrible taste, mostly. :)

I can almost tolerate it mixed w/ vanilla-flavored greek yogurt.

has anyone had any experience with sucanat?

how does it compare, in baking for example, to brown sugar? woudl you get more of a molasses flavor from it, or does it behave sort of the same way, flavor wise?

Muffin update: eggy muffins made with almond flour taste more like eggs than like almond flour

i used to use stevia in baking and other things fairly often (i even used to make those eggy tasting almond flour muffins! they did the trick - then i switch to almond-flour pancakes for a long time - better), when i was weaning myself off sugar (loved sugar so much) over a decade ago and felt i really needed baked goods and pudding and i don't know just sweet things to eat, and it works decently but isn't for everyone, taste-wise, yeah. i like bitter taste though, so... i didn't use very much at all, and have added honey or organic cane sugar to even out the taste.

really, i figure if you're not eating that many baked goods in the first place, no big deal. like, when do i eat muffins? seriously almost never, but they're nice from time to time, and if low-sugar, even better. but in the great scheme of sugary things, at this point in my sometimes-shakey NN career lol, i'd rather just eat one amazing, sugar-and-butter packed almond croissant every three months.

Yeah, my problem is that I currently eat a lot of sugar and carbs every single day. Weaning is exactly what I'm trying to do... I'm focusing on the sugar for now, and less on the other carbs. But a non-carby snack is also a good thing to have and the muffins do the trick. Nuts are fine and all but they don't have enough volume to keep me going between meals. Certainly not going to pretend I'll never eat sugar again, though. Almond croissants are top of my 'worth it' list!

Have you got the recipe for the almond flour pancakes by any chance?...!

Yeah! It's pretty open, like: an egg, 2 to 3 tablespoons almond flour, pinch of baking powder, maybe a tablespoon or half-tbsp of rice flour or even (gasp) wheat flour (if you're not going full-on NN/no-carb), pinch of stevia, cinnamon (and nutmeg, cardamon, ginger if you want - spices = good), bit of milk/cream and/or olive oil. and nutmeg, cardamon, ginger if you want), bit of milk/cream and/or olive oil. Make pancakes, use butter :) I had some sugar-free syrup on top for a while as part of the weaning process but eventually I let it go, used a tbsp sugarless applesauce instead. And while not carb-free, carbs are minimal - I found they kept me full for at least 4 hours that way.

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i think you mean "dr lustig phd"

Thanks Rrr!

Trying to get back on the NN wagon. Forgive me Cutty for I have sinned.

So has anyone here visited a nutritionist? And if so, would you have any idea how to find one that isn't a complete quack or a waste of time?

i think dietitian is the "non-quack" version

In terms of getting guidance from someone TT probably wants to see a registered dietitian. Not all nutritionists are quacks but dietitians are those who have a professional license. I think.

Do you have insurance, TT? A lot of insurance companies will list ones that they work in connection with and some will offer a discount.

this is pretty pricey, but if you're trying to get healthy and you're too busy/can't cook/hate cooking, it seems like a viable option:

http://freshnlean.com/

$35 p/day p/person if you live in california (includes 3 meals and delivery)

Yeah, non-quack is an important qualification. I already do ok, I think, but I kind of want to make sure I'm not leaving myself open to some kind of deficiency or eating too little or something stupid I haven't thought of yet. Wasn't sure what the dietician/nutritionist difference was

Look for a licensed dietician, for sure! "Nutritionist" has no professional standards/licensure/regulation afaik

anyone use this site? http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/index.html

finding it v interesting and useful.

i just bought like 100 vegetables

list vegetables 1-53

no i just know there was 100

also eggs. i haven't eaten much pasta or "whole grains" for the past couple months and i feel good about it. last night since i was making bolognese sauce i was gonna have pasta but my big pot had stuff in it in the fridge so i baked a delicata squash instead, it was good.

getting into this. so, brown rice, it doesn't really taste any worse than white rice does it? maybe even nicer? i was expecting it not to be nice for some childish reason.

made this tonight: http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/brownricerisotto_84639

Brown rice tastes better than white rice imo! Kind of nutty and has more toothsomeness.

yeah exactly, stands up to flavours a bit better too.

brown rice is generally awful

oh I love brown rice! if you toast it a little before cooking, and add hot/near boiling liquid it comes up a lot nicer than cooking it up from cold like normal.

oh I love brown rice! if you toast it a little before cooking, and add hot/near boiling liquid it comes up a lot nicer than cooking it up from cold like normal.

yep this is how i did it. really good. i recommend that recipe above highly.

I like brown rice way better than plain white but my favorite it maybe basmati.

pro tip: the purpose of rice is to balance out the oil/salt/flavor of the other foods you are eating. it's not really meant to be eaten by itself. hth!

yeah I don't really like rice on it's own in general

i heard eggs were good for you
but now i heard they were bad for you
what's up nazis?

A nicely fragrant long-grained brown basmati is most excellent and not to be sneered at.

eggs in moderation? is how I understand it?

so like, i'm reading a lot about this stuff, but what i wonder about is whether things like brown rice/quinoa are still better avoided in favour of greens or veg. i'm having a lot of veg with these but is there any guide for ratios or whatever?

my main aim is to lose a little weight, i've got a lot slimmer in recent months due to exercise and following some of the obvious rules, less meat etc, i'm just sort of muddled about the need to eat healthy fat and whether that's part of losing weight.

is the key to all this to tackle nutrition first, in terms of eating really good stuff, then count calories after that and start making changes?

I mean honestly if you're eating brown rice & quinoa and vegetables and less meat and you've lost weight already, I fail to see the point of any further policing tbh. But I am not a nutrition nazi.

i eat more meat now and i am getting super strong

If you want to go paleo, then do that instead, I guess? xp

the rule with veg is not a ratio thing: eat as much and as many as possible. there is no upper limit.

quinoa is cool. eat loads. brown rice is ruffage but it's otherwise empty calories. if you need the rice to feel full then eat more protein.

if you need <em>lots</em> of rice to feel full, that should be.

i wouldnt call this completely empty calories. it's not like iceberg lettuce or anything.

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5707/2

my buddy claims brown rice is better for his pre-diabetes because of some glycemic thing.

are bananas good or bad now? the pro-yonanas lobby seems to have a vested interest in "yea"
i feel like a banana every day or so won't hurt, but you shouldn't go bananas eating bananas.

yeah i mean there are worse sins than brown rice.

but lettuce, etc. are not what i mean by empty calories. lettuce is basically zero calories. by "empty calories" i mean stuff with not much going for it other than the energy.

eat bananas. they are good.

bananas are awesome in smoothies too -- add a really good base for other fruit, you really notice when you make one without a nana

there was a lot of stuff about dietary cholesterol in egg yolks, that, afaict, is no longer a concern to most docs. otherwise they are fine imo. everything in moderation.

i discovered this stuff on my last trip to the US. taleban recruitment advert imo.

http://www.southernsavers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/EggBeaters.jpg

i'm pretty sure jamba juice isn't healthy! not at 24oz anyway.

those things are terrifying

avoid unless for some crazy reason you are medically unable to eat actual eggs

but it's 99% real!