xpost lol, typos of yore
― down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Monday, 15 October 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe this will make you feel better?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/15/us-usa-campaign-poll-ipsos-idUSBRE89E1BH20121015
― controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Monday, 15 October 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
There were some good polls today too, I know. Is it pretty much a foregone conclusion at this point that whoever wins, it's going to be with under 300 electoral votes?
― clemenza, Monday, 15 October 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
Are these broken down by parties for those of us who dont care to crack into the numbers? I wonder how many super pissed off dems affect the polls of the last 10 days or so, if any.
― johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 15 October 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
romney would have to swing things quite a bit to get 300 but that's still well within the realm of possibilities for obama
― iatee, Monday, 15 October 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
It's certainly NOT a foregone conclusion that Obama will be under 300.
― timellison, Monday, 15 October 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
xp
Likeliest scenario for that is if he wins both Ohio and Florida.
― timellison, Monday, 15 October 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
Ohio yes, Florida not so sure.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 October 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
considering how close florida was last time - during a relative landslide - I'm not very optimistic. I guess a lot of old people have died since then (not enough, but some) - and lotsa hispanics arrived. but still iirc 300 is possibile sans florida.
― iatee, Monday, 15 October 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
It would be running the table with the rest of the states to get to 300 if he loses Florida.
― timellison, Monday, 15 October 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
Not including North Carolina, that is.
those two seem the least likely of the swing states, tho
― iatee, Monday, 15 October 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
Obama has 265 right now if he wins Ohio. Every single state now in play except for New Hampshire is six electoral votes or more. Romney has to win every single one of them.
― timellison, Monday, 15 October 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
mr. silver re:above
Nate Silver @fivethirtyeight
Looking at breakouts of "swing states" from national polls is just dumb when there are dozens of actual swing state polls out every week.
It's basically a choice between looking at a few hundred interviews vs. thousands of them. Not a close call.
Also, (i) everybody defines swing states differently and (ii) not all swing states are equally important.
Rasmussen's tracker of swing states is marginally interesting since the sample size is OK. But better IMO if they ran a tracker of OH or VA.
― iatee, Monday, 15 October 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
This Morgan Freeman ad is really good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nUDg-O93GU
― timellison, Monday, 15 October 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
Word
Morgan Freeman for president, obviously
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 15 October 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
I actually wish all political ads could be this classy
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 15 October 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
Freeman might have trouble overcoming the "boinking his step-granddaughter" hurdle that has stopped so many other presidential campaigns in their tracks.
― Gyrate For Physicet (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 October 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
but he sounds good! reminds me of someone else, i can't quite recall who...
― cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 October 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
I don't want Candy Crowley in there tomorrow night. I've seen enough of her to know that she is fairly neutral. I want a moderator who's in the tank for Obama.
― clemenza, Monday, 15 October 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 15 October 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
conv upthread made me think of ways the debate could be improved and I realized the best debate would be no moderator + no prepared subjects, just throw em up there and let the yelling begin
― iatee, Monday, 15 October 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
wait maybe it was another politics thread, anyway whatever
ideal debate would be four rounds of rock, paper, scissors
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 15 October 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
rock paper zing
― iatee, Monday, 15 October 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
for 'zing' you make a z with your hands, zing beats paper but not rock
― iatee, Monday, 15 October 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
how about a series of escalating uncomfortable situations? romney and obama just have to stand there and deal with whatever comes however they see fit. first some lady walks up to obama and starts calling him a muslim or whatever. then you find an extremist who hates mormons with a visceral passion and throw him at romney. this Religious Confrontation portion of the debate should actually be pretty easy for them as they'll make appeals to tolerance and support each other. but then there's a staged event where someone in the audience is assaulted and it initially appears that one of romney's sons did it. obama is somehow the only eyewitness to the event and is required to testify on stage, but every time he starts to speak his microphone gives off crazy feedback and jim lehrer covers his ears in disgust. then everyone in the auditorium starts making out for a few minutes and the candidates have to figure out what to do with THAT. someone turns the heat up to 84. the clocks are adjusted so that it appears that the 90 minutes have elapsed, which causes confusion because obviously it's only been about 20 minutes or so - or has it?! the debate concludes with a real life fire in the auditorium, and the doors are locked. there's a key that sits in a locked box between obama and romney, but the only way to open it is to answer some sort of trivia question that only one of them would know the answer to. but it's a really hard question so it takes a few minutes and meanwhile people are dying. something along those lines.
― down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Monday, 15 October 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
or, you know, maybe there's a bit where obama realizes that one entire section of the audience is made up of friends and family of innocent civilians he killed
― down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Monday, 15 October 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
Z S otm, great TV at the very least
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 15 October 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
This hypothetical debate is only available on Russian P2P websites.
― Cunga, Monday, 15 October 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
and meanwhile people are dying.
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qdtG0oiJnJU/0.jpg
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 October 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
Ryan and Biden are watching this debate together behind a one-way mirror glass booth.
― Cunga, Monday, 15 October 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
ZS is a genius
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Monday, 15 October 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
CNN instant poll reactions coming from audience comprised entirely of bestial brony ex-convicts
― Mordy, Monday, 15 October 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
i.e. Congress
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 October 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
wolf blitzer forced to conduct polling wearing sexy comiccon wolf outfit
― Mordy, Monday, 15 October 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
this is the stage and the moderator, but she never asks any questions:
http://i46.tinypic.com/2zizrme.jpg
― down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Monday, 15 October 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
lol ZS
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 15 October 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
Ads to be made from this:http://gawker.com/5951756/all-i-really-need-to-know-about-paul-ryan-i-learned-from-this-soup-kitchen-photo-op
― pretty even gender split (Eazy), Monday, 15 October 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
Clinton is saying what happened in Libya is her responsibility. Popular female SoS provides cover for a scrambling president--just judging on appearances, looks bad. I'm sure Romney will make a big deal of this tomorrow.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 01:53 (eleven years ago) link
Tradition and Hil's political ambitions would almost certainly have her leaving the post at the start of a second O term so it makes sense for her to take responsibility here if it will protect Obama. Is there any evidence R has the agility to make hay from this?
― www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 02:59 (eleven years ago) link
no
― iatee, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 02:59 (eleven years ago) link
if romney does try to make hay out of this i hope obama says something like "we're all sad one ambassador died and everything but at least two skyscrapers didn't get hit by airplanes or a wing of the pentagon didn't go up in flames"
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 03:02 (eleven years ago) link
this really isn't gonna be a thing, it's only a scandal if you watch sean hannity
― iatee, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 03:03 (eleven years ago) link
fort hood was supposed to be the end of Obama's presidency according to Fox
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:36 (eleven years ago) link
Freeman might have trouble overcoming the "boinking his step-granddaughter" hurdle
That's been pretty much debunked at this point. Rumors never fully die, though.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 06:13 (eleven years ago) link
this really isn't gonna be a thing, it's only a scandal if you watch sean hannity― iatee, Monday, October 15, 2012 11:03 PM (Yesterday)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bQnxlHZsjY
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 10:10 (eleven years ago) link
checking the gallup polls will not make you feel better
http://www.gallup.com/poll/158048/romney-obama-among-likely-voters.aspx
barry better show up tonight
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
i already knew that i shared this country with a lot of idiots, but apparently they are very easily impressionable idiots.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link