They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

frankly, the notion that humans are accidental by-product of a bio-weapon created by a super-intelligent race that looks on us as something to be exterminated (ie, like Aliens) strikes me as kind of a unique answer to "big questions."

Actually, this has been kicking around the alien abduction branch of UFO conspiracy theory for awhile. More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia

a french farce xp

la cage aux xenomorph

They open up the pod, Nathan Lane steps out...

"IT'S HUGE WHITE AND TERRIFYING, RUN."

I still don't know wtf alien resurrection is, if you figure it out please write

Alien Resurrection is an 8-page story from a 1979 issue of Heavy Metal magazine - only it hasn't been translated from the original French.

there ya go.

lance henriksen was in an Aliens movie!!! I wish he had been in more movies. I've only watched the first two Aliens and this one ,but reading this thread has made me want to see them all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zCbtPL_Kng
"weyland yutani... bought out by WAL-MART" kind of sums up alien resurrection

I see prometheus on the more speculative end of sci-fi which is the genre's sweet spot imo... and speculative works tend to be less concerned with rational character behavior and narrative consistency

yet this is somehow still otm:

and in the end the only question that needs answering, as in all the other alien movies, is how the fuck are we going to get out of here

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, October 12, 2012 3:54 PM (20 minutes ago)

re: lance henriksen -- he was in almost as many alien movies as sigourney weaver! RIP BISHOP

nothing to do w/ this movie (haven't seen) but, i'd love to see a movie about aliens that flips the usual comment on human militarism (do we try to talk to them or do we fight them) -- make the aliens factional in that way.

what

I guess I'll be watching all of them soon, haven't seen Aliens 2 since it came out, and only remember there being a little girl hiding, and military type men.

I feel like I should mention PREDATORS again so there it is

goole idgi can you unpack yr science faction scenario

plenty of alien movies are like this:

1. humans encounter aliens (accidentally, whatev)
2. mutual incomprehension = potential for violence
3. humans are divided on question: try to comprehend or opt for violence quickly

most alien movies solve this problem by making the aliens malevolent. i'm saying, add 4. the aliens are divided by that exact question themselves

aliens are ppl too

there was an alien comic where the android wasn't a humanoid but built in the shape of an alien so it could observe their behavior, but it was still basically the servant to the human scientists so they had scenes with this alienbot serving the science crew tea and wearing a baseball cap -- i think the alienbot got stockholm syndrome or something and started mauling the scientists. does that qualify?

it's p curious that in alien/monster stories it's generally only humans that have any politics

i guess the big trend of werewolf/vampire hidden society shit cuts against this

maybe this could be a sequel for "to serve man", detailing the burgeoning movement of vegetarian aliens, they listen to black metal, argue with the ones advocating for free range humans, etc

nothing to do w/ this movie (haven't seen) but, i'd love to see a movie about aliens that flips the usual comment on human militarism (do we try to talk to them or do we fight them) -- make the aliens factional in that way.

― there is no dana, only (goole), Friday, October 12, 2012 3:40 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not "aliens" per se but battlestar galactica had a ton of this

the newer one

oh right. i never wanted to soldier through that cos i kept hearing the final season was so terrible

Countdown to renting the DVD this weekend! Will be the third time watching it.

Totally understand and respect why people can't get over this film's misfires, but... the film I can't forgive myself for not walking out on this summer was that Batman movie -- for me, that is the definition of meaningless, uninspired, rote journeyman direction and autopilot acting. Give me unpredictable batshit insanity over competence any fucking day of the week.

& I agree with EdIII -- everything that's important about this film, the science fiction under the hood, strikes the right balance between consistent and mysterious

That would be great if Ridley could go back to the original Alien and reconstruct the scene of Ash going "I admire their purity", then cut to Ash watching xenomorph version of C-SPAN where Alien congress is debating the human question with half of the chairs absent and one particularly elderly Alien congressman visibly falling asleep and drooling from his second mouth, then Ash just closing his eyes and shaking his head.

I want another Alien film and the big reveal is that there's only one human on board

there was an alien comic where the android wasn't a humanoid but built in the shape of an alien so it could observe their behavior, but it was still basically the servant to the human scientists so they had scenes with this alienbot serving the science crew tea and wearing a baseball cap -- i think the alienbot got stockholm syndrome or something and started mauling the scientists. does that qualify?

this sounds amazing

everything that's important about this film, the science fiction under the hood, strikes the right balance between consistent and mysterious

― Milton Parker, Friday, October 12, 2012 5:00 PM (12 minutes ago)

plus there's some iconic imagery, the sequence w/ david and the starmap is something I really started digging, thinking about the implications of a robot experiencing wonder at the creation of the creators of his creator

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/arts/movies/2012/06/120607_MOVIES_PROMETHEUS.jpg.CROP.rectangle3-large.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/prometheus_ipad_3.png

Alien resurrection's band of Gauls does indeed disrupt the thematic and aesthetic unity of the series oh wait no, I read that wrong, turns out there's no such fkn thing.

the sequence w/ david and the starmap is something I really started digging, thinking about the implications of a robot experiencing wonder at the creation of the creators of his creator

pretty much. the first time I saw this, they'd already run the 'wonderous' musical theme into the ground so when they went for broke with it again during this sequence, it was John Williamsesque overload and I just clocked out and checked out the CGI. the second time through, the film really seemed to build to that scene and it emotionally worked me over. the CGI wasn't just beautiful anymore, it was meaningful.

at least as meaningful as the recovered aliens in Quatermass and the Pit anyway

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gQH4RWKsuzg/TYYfMjHym2I/AAAAAAAAAEw/JmffIFIJFXI/s1600/hob.jpg

I'm very excited about buying the Blu of this tonight. Can totally watch this thing over and over.

Wow, this thread really went in some goofy directions in this last couple hours. Would rather watch Alien Resurrection or renegade android xenomorph: the movie than this acceptable but totally lifeless blah junk any day... 'balls to the wall action movie??? There were no balls and no wall! Zzzzz

Er, zzzz. Basically, if you liked it, cool, but do you really think you are actually RIGHT?

The posters on this thread who liked this film are much less self-righteous about their opinions of it than the ones who are invested in having their dislike of it validated by 'reality'

i don't feel this movie was offensive or problematic enough to be graded on a right/wrong scale, but i do feel like there's some hidden reasons for liking this movie that haven't surfaced, because the reasons given so far don't seem to hold up when applied to other movies (e.g. alien v predator, etc...)

Ha dr c otm emphatically

and i really don't wake up in the morning trying to be a zinging dick-guy poster...I do sort of get the movie's supporters because here I am still talking about it after several months. It definitely sticks with you in certain ways, it's memorable, it's just that a lot of what sticks with me is disappointment and confusion, and a lot of what's in between the disappointing/confusing aspects is pretty but totally impossible to invest in, for me. What an unlikable cast, for one thing! Some serious attention to giving them some life and making the leading couple less whiny and shrill could have kept me in the frame for more of the running time...

I agree the cast didn't seem very invested in their characters, but original alien cast wasn't very likable either except for jonesy.

are you serious

"character" is what made alien great and what made aliens great and what makes basically every great movie great. i dont care if it's a talky drama or an outer space xenomorph movie. w/o it you have NOTHING.

original alien cast brought the characters to life for sure, but they didn't make them likable is alls i'm saying.

if you're telling me yaphet kotto and harry dean stanton's characters weren't likeable i might have to blow you out of the airlock

This movie does have a great character in David (imo) -- even if I don't agree that "character" is required for greatness.

kotto and stanton are likable to each other, but they're total dicks. you saw their whole "what i can't hear you, ripley" routine

agree that fassbender made david compelling but it's like no one else was even trying.

besides beyond some (correct) complaints about character motivation a great deal of the complaints seem to boil down to claims about intentionality--in which case who cares what was intended?

look, if you are trying to make a movie featuring an elite group of highly-trained scientists, and the scientists barely seem able to tie your shoes, there is just a fundamental problem with the movie. really, stop trying to drill down deeper than that.

honestly though, it's really gonna come down to a matter of opinion and taste. either you have the correct opinion and think this movie was a dirty dog turd, or you have the wrong opinion and like it. different strokes for different folks!