Poll: Which concert would you attend from the listings in the 8-29-77 Village Voice I found at my mom's house?

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Holy shit - I would HANDCUFF myself to a supporting pillar somewhere inside the Village Gate and stay there for a month!

OTM. If I had time machine I would go back and have sets at all these shows.

lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Lady, if you have to ask...

double bird strike (gabbneb), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Still weighing the NWave vs Jazz. Think I should vote for departed jazz guys, but Quine is gone too.

Don't know why jbr and others hated Bottom Line. The neutral red-checked tablecloth atmosphere turned out to be appropriate to accommodate the great variety of acts that appeared there.

lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

if I had time machine I would go back and have sets at all these shows.

change my vote to this

m coleman, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link

i chose Hell & Mars

Ashee Bolanalli (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Does the listing actually say "Charlie" Mingus?

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 29 January 2009 01:38 (fifteen years ago) link

anyway, weird time in nyc history. this was the same summer as the big blackout and son of sam. i was just a baby (in brooklyn) so none of this was really on my radar yet.

Same except I was a fetus in Manhattan. That said it would have to have been Talking Heads then Blondie for me.

Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Thursday, 29 January 2009 01:43 (fifteen years ago) link

George Jones

My second choice, not by a long way.

mose def (kenan), Thursday, 29 January 2009 01:47 (fifteen years ago) link

But I'd be worried that he would be too drunk to show.

mose def (kenan), Thursday, 29 January 2009 01:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Does the listing actually say "Charlie" Mingus?

Yup. I calls 'em like I sees 'em.

Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I left stuff out, too, in the interest of brevity. Now I regret it. McCoy Tyner. Charlie Rouse. Stumblebunny. What was I thinking?

Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Holy crap -- I think AC/DC were a "special guest" on that Marbles/Avenger bill at CBGB:

http://www.acdc-bootlegs.com/concerthistory/?gig=354

Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey Ned. This bud's for you, in the order of the list.

I grew up in the Bay Area so I saw the Dead a bunch of times, including NY's eve '73 @ Winterland (I think, or maybe '72) and subsequently in Jersey City, outdoors (don't ask) w/The Band just after the big Watkins Glen gig (we went to a big disco too, but no one would talk to me 'cause I saw stoned out of my mind, wearing aviator shades, with hair down to my ass). I saw probably anytime they played @ Winterland from '72-74.

Saw Mingus @ the Tyee Motor Lodge Tumwater Wa in about '77. He stopped the band in the middle of the set and tore Danny a new asshole for getting lost. Mingus made off with my housemate Michaels' girlfriend and we has to retrieve her from his room, so I've seen Mingus, pissed off and naked except for a towel on the middle of the night. Danny subsequently stole my friend Manny (who's band opened)'s tenor and they had to get a search warrant for his hotel room in Seattle the next day, to get it back.

My folks took me to see Mongo Santamaria @ the Checkmate Inn (owned by one of the guys in the Checkmates) in East Palo Alto when I was in Jr high. I took a date. We danced. It was a bar and I don't know how they let us in there. That would be in '68 or '69.

I saw the New Riders a few times, when Garcia was still in the band. The two times I remember were when Garcia had the flu and was high on cold medicine, very psychedelic solos with lots of echoplex, and the other supported by Miles (On the Corner band) @ Frost Ampitheater (Stanford U... outdoors in the daytime, I shot color slides which I still have). This gig is how I always win the "what's the weirdest double bill you ever saw" game.

I made my cousin take me to see the Newport Jazz Festival @ Madison Square Garden when I was about 12, so that'd be about '68: Cecil Taylor, Rahsaan Roland Kirk, Dizzy Gillespie. I remember Cecil, all fists and elbows, Roland Kirk with 3 horns in his mouth and banging his chair on the stage floor, and Dizzy seeming kind of passe, doing the Afro-Cuban thing. My cousin was bored silly. I guess I was kinda a weird kid.

My ex-roommate/ex-girlfriend took me to CB's to see T Heads supporting Television 2 nights in a row in the Summer of '76. We smoked a joint in the club, and I made eye contact with Lou Reed.

I saw Screaming Jay Hawkins @ Biddy Mulligan's in Chicago around '86, which held, dunno, 100 people? 200? He talked a lot about furburgers. I also saw Ra there around then. The band didn't fit on the stage.

I saw Richard Hell @ the Berkeley Square (I think) in '82 or '83 fronting some suburban rock band. The band was obnoxious, and not in a good way, whereas Hell was obnoxious, but not in a bad way. I think I saw Iggy there too, later...

Dunno what that leaves me with... I would have loved to see Larry Coryell, though maybe not with Alphonse Mouzon, but I was a fusion-head back then, so maybe. I probably wouldn't have been ready for Teenage Jesus & the Jerks yet in '77, not til a couple of years later. The older (today) me wishes to have seen Joao Gilberto (he still touring?), or maybe Mars. Mmmm Robert Quine... maybe I'll come back later and vote. Nice options to have though.

factcheckr, Thursday, 29 January 2009 04:27 (fifteen years ago) link

holy fuckin shit! that's it, i'm moving to new york in the late 70's.

messiahwannabe, Thursday, 29 January 2009 05:00 (fifteen years ago) link

compare with this coming friday:

Andy Friedman & the Other Failures
Antibalas Afrobeat Orchestra
Beat Circus
Blood
Steve Cardenas Quartet
Cold War Kids
Dysrhythmia+Tombs
Kings of Leon
Lykke Li+Wildbirds & Peacedrums
Lil' Dusty
The Pretenders
John Scofield
Slipknot
The Sword
The Thermals
Simone White
Maddy Wyatt's Sagebrush Valentine
Christine Ebersole
Joey Calderazzo Trio
Que Bajo?!
Rose Live Music

looks pretty eh to me, but perhaps i'm just not looking hard enough?

messiahwannabe, Thursday, 29 January 2009 05:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Antibalas rules that list

punk floyd (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 January 2009 05:20 (fifteen years ago) link

actually further digging through the VV website reveals Talib Kweli at S.O.B.'s, John Legend at madison square, Metallica at Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum, Nightmares on Wax at Music Hall of Williamsbur, Kevin Saunderson at Webster Hall, They Might Be Giants@ (le) poisson rouge, not to mention random stuff like Punk Rock Heavy Metal Karaoke at Fontana's,or 'Ashford & Simpson's Legendary Open Mic Night' at Sugar Bar so maybe no need to invest in a time machine just yet.

i wonder if parlaiment, kool and the gang and sabbath were all also playing 8-29-77 and the voice just didn't bother listing them at the top?

messiahwannabe, Thursday, 29 January 2009 06:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw John Legend a couple years back and he was absolutely great. I would definitely see him again if I wasn't so worried about his poor new material dragging him down.

punk floyd (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 January 2009 06:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Factcheckr I would like to live in your skull for a while.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 January 2009 06:24 (fifteen years ago) link

i saw john legend a couple of months ago and he bored me to death

double bird strike (gabbneb), Thursday, 29 January 2009 06:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Re "Charlie" Mingus: I was just curious about this. It's funny. I don't know if one of the 30 or so albums I own by him is credited this way.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 29 January 2009 07:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Saw Mingus @ the Tyee Motor Lodge Tumwater Wa in about '77. He stopped the band in the middle of the set and tore Danny a new asshole for getting lost. Mingus made off with my housemate Michaels' girlfriend and we has to retrieve her from his room, so I've seen Mingus, pissed off and naked except for a towel on the middle of the night. Danny subsequently stole my friend Manny (who's band opened)'s tenor and they had to get a search warrant for his hotel room in Seattle the next day, to get it back.

!!!

An impossible list to choose from. I'd love to have been able to see new wave in the 70s but Kirk or Mingus would've been pretty mindblowing too...

willem, Thursday, 29 January 2009 08:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Kirk died before the end of 1977.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 29 January 2009 08:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought I'd seen it before. East Coasting by Charlie Mingus. 1957, but I'm looking at a 2000 cd.

I would see Richard Hell, for the Robert Quine especially.

the idea of Dictators, Michael Stanley Band and AC/DC on the same bill makes sense if you think low level major label hard rock signings playing together to help their careers with the hard rock fans and programmers. None of them ever amounted to anything unfortunately.

james k polk, Thursday, 29 January 2009 08:35 (fifteen years ago) link

voted foreigner

cozwn, Thursday, 29 January 2009 08:52 (fifteen years ago) link

cos I don't want to bump into all you douches at the blondie/screamin jay gig

cozwn, Thursday, 29 January 2009 08:54 (fifteen years ago) link

whoa, Stumblebunny?

Mark G, Thursday, 29 January 2009 10:05 (fifteen years ago) link

"No Show Jones." just for the fuck of it.

Keep The Dawgs Away (Ioannis), Thursday, 29 January 2009 11:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I think Mingus's widow rants about if you see records that say "Charlie" Mingus rather than Charles, it's a bootleg or something.

tylerw, Thursday, 29 January 2009 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link

hey, maybe it was a Bootleg Charlie Mingus show?

Maybe they were taping it for a future bootleg LP?

Mark G, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Richard Hell, that minx

warmsherry, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

LP 1 is himself going "(sigh) not again.."

Mark G, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought this Charles/Charlie controversy was the same as the "Louie"/"Louis" Armstrong controversy.
(xxpost ha)

lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Andrew/Andy Cole

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Walter/Wendy Carlos

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Richard Hell and Mars

dan selzer, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

From http://www.mingusmingusmingus.com/Mingus/unauthorized.html
"Other signs of unauthorized copies include misspelled song titles, Danny instead of Dannie Richmond, misspellings of Jaki Byard, Cliff instead of Clifford Jordan, and especially Charlie rather than Charles Mingus. Many live recordings are also bootlegs."
So ... yeah, funny that a concert so late in Mingus's life would still have him listed as Charlie.

tylerw, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Joey Calderazzo Trio

I've neither seen nor heard this guy, but he's gonna have a killer rhythm section with Jeff "Tain" Watts and Boris Kozlov, who plays, um, Mingus's lion's head bass in the Big Band.

lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Har, do you think in 30 years, there'll be people saying, "Dang, I would've loved to see that Kings of Leon show in '09!"

tylerw, Thursday, 29 January 2009 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link

George Jones, just to see if he showed up.

Matos W.K., Thursday, 29 January 2009 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link

(xpost)
Maybe. Who knows? Of course those people probably won't be posting on the Rolling 2039 Country thread.

lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 29 January 2009 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

My new calling shall be posting lists of gigs to annoy Ned. When I run out, I'll post stories my mom told me about going to the Apollo in '35. THAT's old school.

I voted for the Roy Buchanan gig... 50,000 English guitar players can't be wrong.

factcheckr, Friday, 30 January 2009 05:52 (fifteen years ago) link

"Har, do you think in 30 years, there'll be people saying, "Dang, I would've loved to see that Kings of Leon show in '09!""

honestly no, but talib, legend, metallica or the pretenders quite possibly

also there may be some obscure "radio broker" kinda stuff buried in the listings that i wouldn't know about if i didn't live there but will maybe blow up to talking heads/richard hell level fame one day...

messiahwannabe, Friday, 30 January 2009 06:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I would be at the front row of that Andy Gibb show.

Morley Timmons, Friday, 30 January 2009 06:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw Andy Gibb at Chicagofest, if not summer of 77 then sometime in the few years after. At one point he jumped through a hoop of fire. (Top THAT, factcheckr!)

I voted Talking Heads, with Mars and Mingus close behind.

dad a, Friday, 30 January 2009 06:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 31 January 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Can't touch that...

factcheckr, Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link

i couldnt decide on this if you paid me.

Joao Gilberto, Bottom Line
Mongo Santa Maria, Bottom Line
Charlie Mingus, Village Gate
Dizzy Gillespie, Village Gate
Rahsaan Roland Kirk, Village Gate
Talking Heads w/Laughing Dogs, CBGB
Blondie w/Screaming Jay Hawkins, CBGB
Richard Hell & the Voidoids w/Helen Wheels & Mars, Village Gate

those all sound like so much fun. i really don't think it's hard to say things were much better back then.

pipecock, Saturday, 31 January 2009 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link


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