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had an amazing moment vibesing to adorn on the underground yesterday when i walked past a near-exact miguel doppelganger, this lil tiny stylish mexi-asiatic lookin dude rocking an impressive quiff wearing a leather jacket. sort of wanted to pick him up and throw him in the air in celebration

then a moment of terror thinking i can't believe i used to have an even bigger quiff than that wait how many of those guys do i ever see in life was that him????

r|t|c, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

had an amazing moment vibesing to adorn on the underground yesterday when i walked past a near-exact miguel doppelganger, this lil tiny stylish mexi-asiatic lookin dude rocking an impressive quiff wearing a leather jacket. sort of wanted to pick him up

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

mm, maybe for a garden gnome

is 'do you' the official next single then? sounded like a smash to me but i wondered if they'd edit out druuuugs and more importantly how exactly. anyone heard it in the wild?

r|t|c, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

It'll be fascinating watching "Do You" climb the R&B chart

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

i think it's always been planned as the follow up to "adorn" and i guess they're going through with that

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

i wondered if they'd edit out druuuugs and more importantly how exactly.

single version on spotify goes "do you like looooove"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

it reasons that's why they changed the name from "drugs" to "do you..."

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

OK, so it's a quite a weird track that way, right? I really like it a lot, but find myself thinking in pretty open-ended ways about the sentiment, and the way it's phrased.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

well it's a pun, it starts out with "do you like drugs" like a question and then at the end adds "i'm gonna do you like drugs tonight"

la goonies (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

so does he say "i'm gonna do you like love tonight"? need to listen to that single edit

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

if you look closely there's visible pussy in that photo (xpost)

― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, October 3, 2012 2:25 PM

ha, this took me a minute

alpine static, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:33 (eleven years ago) link

pussy is yours

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:42 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that's very good

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 October 2012 03:30 (eleven years ago) link

best new music

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 October 2012 05:09 (eleven years ago) link

Sweet, now I can talk about it!

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 4 October 2012 05:16 (eleven years ago) link

i think it's a pretty nice accomplishment, actually

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 October 2012 05:25 (eleven years ago) link

yeah its cool.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 4 October 2012 05:28 (eleven years ago) link

i sort of said this before but it's nice to see him rewarded for his reverse-crossover attempt while still being able to grow his core fanbase. a pretty rare feat.

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 October 2012 05:32 (eleven years ago) link

Indeed.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 4 October 2012 05:33 (eleven years ago) link

Good review.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 4 October 2012 06:01 (eleven years ago) link

What a remix!

MikoMcha, Thursday, 4 October 2012 11:58 (eleven years ago) link

like the review, don't like the ELEVEN frank ocean headlines underneath the review

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link

If the Gibbs tape is an 8.2, this is a 9.4 though.

longneck, Thursday, 4 October 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link

what review?

lex pretend, Thursday, 4 October 2012 13:14 (eleven years ago) link

p4k?

pandemic, Thursday, 4 October 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link

yes

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link

weird quote from that: 'a wonderfully considered album from an artist who was starting to seem a lot like a forgotten gem in the wake of mishandled promotion.'

wasn't Sure Thing a huge huge hit r&b chart hit? do they just mean 'indie people weren't listening until now' ?

Jamie_ATP, Thursday, 4 October 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

his first album could be considered a commercial triumph or totally under the radar depending on what lens you're viewing it through, but yeah that way of phrasing it was pretty false.

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that's what i mean, the lens of 'what people in brooklyn/portland are listening to' is pretty reductive

Jamie_ATP, Thursday, 4 October 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link

well it could also be viewed as unsuccessful through the lens of "doesn't sell as much/cross over to pop radio as much as Usher or Chris Brown"

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link

The demographics at his Howard Theatre show in DC seemed like 99% African-American (and mostly women) which is reflective of that prior inability to crossover to pop or indie

curmudgeon, Thursday, 4 October 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

are they not a pop audience?

Jamie_ATP, Thursday, 4 October 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

is this really the 2nd time this week on this board that i have to explain "pop as genre vs. pop as in 'popular'"

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

Except that isn't what he was saying.

Matt DC, Thursday, 4 October 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

i introduced the 'pop crossover' subject to the conversation, curmudgeon continued it understanding what i meant, and jamie responded to it seemingly not understanding what i meant.

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

Right. I think Jamie and Mat may have misunderstood me. I did not think I had to break down for anyone here the difference between industry marketing terms for genre and for radio formats, or to explain that yes r'n'b songs can be considered pop in the US when they reach the Billboard chart that is labeled "pop songs' or "hot 100". If Jamie and you want to complain to Billboard that they have an "r'n'b/rap" category (yes I think they put those 2 gneres together) separate from a "pop songs" one, and that ilx has a rolling R'n'b thread that is separate from a rolling pop songs thread.

Perhaps I should have also referred back to Some Dude's Village voice piece from awhile back regarding the declining number of r'n'b songs crossing over onto the pop radio hits format

curmudgeon, Thursday, 4 October 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link

miguel is kind of a perfect case study for that kind of thing too -- "sure thing" was billboard's #1 r&b chart song of last year, but #92 on the year-end hot 100

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

use me
wanna give you control
with the lights on
if I could just let go
forgive me
it's the very first time
that I'm nervous
can I trust you?
trust me
while I take this off
with the lights on
cuz it turns me on
if you're nervous
just let me show you
how to touch me
I can teach you

^^^^^^^^the realness from opposite ends in this chorus, the way he elides both. incredible

lex pretend, Friday, 5 October 2012 14:30 (eleven years ago) link

like a lesser song would have made that a duet but miguel makes them the same thing

lex pretend, Friday, 5 October 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

i moved down south pretty much exactly a year ago and 'sure thing' has been on the radio consistently the entire time

Jacques_Lamure, Friday, 5 October 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

Lex otm

zEUS and Roxanne (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 5 October 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

yes

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Friday, 5 October 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

this record is great, finally got around to it.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

The first five or six songs so is such an astonishing run of greatness.

Tim F, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

letterman tonight iirc

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

am i the only one who likes the title track? didn't see a lot of love for it.

i know a frank ocean comparison is probably boring/facile, but god listening to this highlights how restrained and lacking in variety that record was.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

The title track was the first I'm warmed to when I heard the full sequence.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

yeah same, replayed it 3/4 times.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

i'm still trying to figure out the comparison he makes in that song to piano keys

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link


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