I am beginning to become scared that Romney/Ryan will win. Can smart people please post here and say reassuring things to convince me that he won't?

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I think that's right. He's still over 270 even without Iowa and Colorado, too.

timellison, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know if it's because I am feeling sick this afternoon or just paranoid because of 538's latest post, but I've become a little panicked about this happening.

controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Friday, 12 October 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

it hasnt been a good week!

max, Friday, 12 October 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

That 538 post bears out the idea that state polls follow national. Inexplicable and grim.

http://teamaltman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/house_of_cards-apva-090324-266x300.jpg

clemenza, Friday, 12 October 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

press loves a nailbiter

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 October 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

Dems love a mittpocalypse

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 October 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

I prefer no drama, and no chance of a mitt win. But I am not a dem.

Aimless, Friday, 12 October 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

I prefer no election.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Friday, 12 October 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

I prefer the drummer

space dokken (Edward III), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

Can't believe this Libya stuff has legs. Horrible the embassy was attacked - my father in law was an ambassador- but are there Americans up in arms about this? Does Libya get cheers and boos on the trail?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 October 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

doubt anyone gives a fuck except Hannity et al

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 October 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

Wingnuts blatantly running a play from the Carter 2.0 playbook, trying to draw parallels between botched hostage rescue mission and Libya killings. That it's no longer 1980/1950/(insert pre-Abolition year of choice) seems to be a terrible and eternal source of dismay for these oxygen thieves.

ella fingerblast hurls forever (suzy), Friday, 12 October 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

Nate Silver (@fivethirtyeight)
10/12/12 6:42 PM
Real good day for Romney in the polls. Maybe his best yet. He's now up to almost 40% in our forecast. fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com

iatee, Friday, 12 October 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link

u not understand the point of ths thred

Gyrate For Physicet (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 October 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

wanted to make it more exciting

iatee, Friday, 12 October 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

kinda fascinated w/ how quickly and to what extent the polls have followed the New Media Narrative

max, Friday, 12 October 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

I feel similarly, like there's some kind of feedback loop in play here

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 October 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

i'm kinda shocked too. i don't really think of debates as real events, so it's hard to imagine a debate moving the dials so drastically. i have to reevaluate what an event is.

Mordy, Friday, 12 October 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

you obv can't remove media from the equation but there were tons of new media narratives that didn't budge the polls at all this campaign

iatee, Friday, 12 October 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

feel like poll respondents heard Obama lost something and are like "what? I'm not voting for a loser!"

people are stupid

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 October 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

even so I still expect Obama to win handily, there is no way Romney can sweep all the states he needs to.

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 October 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

i wonder if obama is kicking himself

Mordy, Friday, 12 October 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

eh i agree w/ silver that its lessa bout obama doing poorly than it is about romney solidifying support after a few bad months. and honestly the race was always going to tighten after that -- its just the rate at which its quickening!

max, Friday, 12 October 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it's like the GOP is rallying behind their guy both out of admiration that he did something right + desperation

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 October 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

I like my narrative that this is where romney shoulda been post-convention and this was basically convention take 2 w/r/t getting the normal 'ya prob not gonna vote for the democrats' ppl fully on board

iatee, Friday, 12 October 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link

No longer a chance Mitt will withdraw in favor of Mitch Daniels xp

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Friday, 12 October 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link

Max, otm. GOP voters have been whinging for ages about the candidate they ended up with and the fact that Mitt wasn't trounced gave them some fire in the belly. The Fox/RNC would have stoked their Obama hatred anyway so this is probably not much of a game changer.

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Friday, 12 October 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

its just the rate at which its quickening!

That's part of what's so discombobulating for me. There are a hundred ways this could have ended up exactly the same place it's at now--maybe tied, maybe one guy or the other a point up--and I wouldn't have batted an eye. It's the speed at which it's happened, the extreme reversal, and the fact that it was triggered by a debate performance that was merely listless.

clemenza, Friday, 12 October 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link

GOP smelled blood in the water with so many in the New Media conceding victory to Mitt. personally I didn't think Obama did that badly, I thought both were horribly boring.

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 October 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link

well if the race stays narrow for a few weeks it's going to come down to ground game, and OfA has quite the ground game, as one might recall.

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Friday, 12 October 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link

he didn't do badly at all, but mitt is the most competent debate candidate the gop has had in a longggg time + tricky shift to the center caught obama a little off guard w/r/t what he needed to be attacking mitt on

iatee, Friday, 12 October 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link

the gop won the 'lower the expectations' game by plotting this out 20 years in advance and making sure every candidate until now was barely literate

iatee, Friday, 12 October 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

lol

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 October 2012 23:23 (eleven years ago) link

Their butlers read to them.

50 Shades of Greil (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 12 October 2012 23:57 (eleven years ago) link

its funny that the gop base is getting so fired up over someone who has decided running as a republican was a surefire route to defeat

johnathan lee riche$ (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 13 October 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus

Raymond Cummings, Saturday, 13 October 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link

This fucking country

Raymond Cummings, Saturday, 13 October 2012 01:25 (eleven years ago) link

single issue voter, huh

Clay, Saturday, 13 October 2012 01:25 (eleven years ago) link

oh god oh god oh god please don't let that fucker romney win! HE HAS THE LEAD NOW! ARRRRGGGGHH!

remember when it was bush/gore and all those people were like "eh, democrat, republican, what's the difference?" and it turned out that yes, actually, there was a pretty big difference?

I am beginning to become scared that Romney/Ryan will win. Can smart people please post here and say reassuring things to convince me that he won't?I am beginning to become scared that Romney/Ryan will win. Can smart people please post here and say reassuring things to convince me that he won't?I am beginning to become scared that Romney/Ryan will win. Can smart people please post here and say reassuring things to convince me that he won't?I am beginning to become scared that Romney/Ryan will win. Can smart people please post here and say reassuring things to convince me that he won't?I am beginning to become scared that Romney/Ryan will win. Can smart people please post here and say reassuring things to convince me that he won't?

messiahwannabe, Saturday, 13 October 2012 02:18 (eleven years ago) link

put a sock in it

your face - u deserve to get it laughed in! (Hunt3r), Saturday, 13 October 2012 02:18 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvLeQbwuKys

some dude, Saturday, 13 October 2012 02:27 (eleven years ago) link

It's been clear for years that people hate, hate, hate, for no rational reason, Obama. But those are just the vocal haters. There's got to be a sizable number of people who hate him secretly who have just been waiting for an excuse to show their hand. Perhaps those are the same people who voted for him last time but do not plan on voting for him again.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 October 2012 03:30 (eleven years ago) link

Or maybe just Romney is rigging the polls?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 October 2012 03:30 (eleven years ago) link

Pretty surprised at the people on my FB who are hitting the "Like" on Romney and Ryan. I know these people and really wonder how the hell they think they will benefit from Romney/Ryan.

*tera, Saturday, 13 October 2012 03:33 (eleven years ago) link

You might be right about them but also facebook has been doing some funky stuff with the side ads, making it look like people "liked" things that maybe weren't what it said when they clicked it.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Saturday, 13 October 2012 03:42 (eleven years ago) link

clicking anything on Facebook clearly hazardous to yr health and friendships

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Saturday, 13 October 2012 03:43 (eleven years ago) link

Really???????? That is some sneakyassshit!

*tera, Saturday, 13 October 2012 04:23 (eleven years ago) link


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