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la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:14 (eleven years ago) link

first album both has more good songs and higher highs, though "adorn" might be his best song. new one is very good at what it aims to be, which is a breezy, pleasant 40-minute record, but it isn't the trip the first was

la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link

don't really think you're listening to it right if "breezy, pleasant" is what you're getting from it

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:34 (eleven years ago) link

maybe k3v downloaded a bad leak?

barthes simpson, Monday, 1 October 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link

doubt it but i was talking more about the songcraft than the sonics, admittedly, which haven't grabbed me one way or another

la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link

first album has ... higher highs, though "adorn" might be his best song.

this sentence contradicts itself?

i still think "sure thing" is his best song but the rest of kaleidoscope dream kills his first album, though i really might just shove "...all" after "arch & point", i'm so used to that coming next and it's probably the greatest ADC track that didn't get reused.

lex pretend, Monday, 1 October 2012 06:00 (eleven years ago) link

well i said "might" - in any event the first one has his like 2nd through 5th best songs

la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

Sorry if this was discussed hotheads but what the he'll happened to gravity?

Moreno, Monday, 1 October 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link

Hotheads = up thread. You all seem very chill

Moreno, Monday, 1 October 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

lol great typo

what happened like why isn't it on the album? i mean only 3 of the EP songs are on the album, 2 of which were radically changed, and "Gravity" was never a huge favorite.

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

i'm glad the album is mostly different?

heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

Just seemed like it would do well as a single imo.

Moreno, Monday, 1 October 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

i've listened to it about 5 times and my favorites aren't really changing from listen to listen like with the first, and i'm not really discovering new things buried in the songs to love,

totally opposite experience of this record

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

it looks like the Target deluxe edition contains "...All," "Gravity" and

and

and

::shudder::

http://www.youtube.com/v/pdiL01PRtWI&fs=1&hl=en

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

wow that hat is fucking terrible

instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

yeah my copy has those two songs.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

hat is hilarious

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

the combination of that outfit and i guess wiz's height makes miguel look like a midget in that photo

instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

ok he can't be gay because only Elton John would dress so terribly

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

miguel's a good dresser but that outfit is horrifying

instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

wiz makes miguel look short like miguel makes wiz look dignified

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

Gravity is a huge favorite of mine; I was gonna post that that & ...All got hosed, so this Target Deluxe Edition is welcome news.

alpha flighticles (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

miguel is tiny tho, he's maybe 5' 7"

instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not saying he's not usually short, i'm saying wiz is not usually dignified

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

"do you?" is the best song to sing along to

heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link

also, has anyone talked about the censored 'fuck's on "how many drinks?"? is this artistic decision, because the album has a parental advisory diclaimer, so why censor it still?

heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

I like the little laser noises at those moments, it's probably an artistic decision.

Either that or my leaked version is ripped off from a censored stream.

Matt DC, Monday, 1 October 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i mean i'm cool with it being artistic, cause those laser noises are dope, and it's a more effective by omission kinda thing then.

heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

i think my least favorite song on this is "where's the fun in forever" although it's still a good song

heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

haha so far there's no consensus

freelancer Sarah G*dfrey's interview with Miguel for the Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/miguel-creates-his-own-randb-path-on-kaleidoscope-dream/2012/10/01/36b1b4d4-09ba-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_story.html

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link

DO YOU LIKE HUGS?

Roland Pemberton, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

Has had a girlfriend for 7 years, supposedly.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

i couldn't get through much of that asinine 'interview'

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

i couldn't even start it

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

fuck those guys

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah it was horrible.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

Those guys are the scum of the earth.

longneck, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

Couldn't watch it either, but "Are you gay?" should be an off-limits question in all interviews

Evan R, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

(Even in the case of artists like Frank Ocean and—to a much, much lesser extent—Miguel, whose songwriting gives some reason to suspect they might be)

Evan R, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

"Are you gay?" asked by two choads who make gross Rihanna jokes is off limits

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

Couldn't watch it either, but "Are you gay?" should be an off-limits question in all interviews

― Evan R, Tuesday, October 2, 2012 5:52 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

i think a writer could ask this question because you can go off record or if the artist doesn't want to talk about it you can just pretend like you didn't ask it, but in a live setting like that it's pretty shitty

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

in a weird way i think it's kind of better for someone to be able to face down that question live on the air, compared to how gossip blogs constantly insinuate that kind of thing without asking the person directly, or even in print where they can massage the context of their answer with a bunch of "he said, as he shifted uncomfortably in his chair and quickly changed the subject" type stuff.

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

imo there's just a lot of sweet-voiced men singing love songs throughout the music industry, and they ain't all gay, but in R&B there's been such a strong undercurrent of hip hop bravado the last decade or two that anyone who doesn't carry themselves that way is under suspicion and it's kinda dumb.

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

That's true to a point. I can think of few situations in which "Are you gay?" asked live isn't designed to (a) elicit a squirm from the subject (b) be sensationalist at the expense of the subject.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

like, I guess Tavis Smiley can ask and be cool.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

"true to a point" = ship's penultimate post

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i'm not saying the on-air gotcha is better as a rule, just saying in some ways being that bald-faced about it is preferable to the alternative

jaz a make wardance (some dude), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link


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