Well, on the HAHA SILLY (ETHNICITY/RACIAL/NATIONAL IDENTITY) front, how come she gets waved under the bar while while chubby dancing Korean guy skips morosely at the back of the line?
― cherry (soda), Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
i don't really care about this very much, except as it made me sad that i couldn't innocently enjoy the funny chunky-man skipping about like a two-dollar dingus on new year's day
― cherry (soda), Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:48 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think his weight is a huge part of the video or its appeal either, you seem a bit fixated on it.
― boxall, Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link
haven't there been plenty of lol euro trash memes over the years? I agree w/ remy, could see some eastern european or turkish or indian person doing this exact same song w/ the exact same video.
― iatee, Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:52 (eleven years ago) link
there's nothing particularly asian about it, even the music sounds like it could be from anywhere. trashy music videos are global.
― iatee, Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:53 (eleven years ago) link
i find all this discussion strange, he's got a roundish head but you guys are talking about him like he's ceelo or something
― frogbs, Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:55 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not fixated on the weight, it's just that it's a funnier (and more noticable) component than the geographical component, for my money.
― cherry (soda), Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:55 (eleven years ago) link
(i remember listening to the streets in high school and certain friends could not stop giggling at the idea of a british rapper)
smh at this clown
http://www.stompandflow.com/images/slick-rick-bling.jpg
― ┐(´ー`)┌ (sic), Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:55 (eleven years ago) link
the point has already been made (and far be it from me to add to this shitstorm) but psy is not overweight
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:57 (eleven years ago) link
― iatee, Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:53 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
the point is that it slots really, really easily into preexisting ways in which asians are portrayed in american media
― barthes simpson, Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:59 (eleven years ago) link
hyper sexed dancers?
― iatee, Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:59 (eleven years ago) link
I think his charisma is way more of a factor in the appeal of the video than anything HAHA ASIAN. He's got a great swagger about him and pulls of some really hilarious dance moves while maintaining an amazing deadpan.
― Fetchboy, Thursday, 27 September 2012 01:59 (eleven years ago) link
lol the horsey dance = hyper sexed dance?
― barthes simpson, Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
dude checking out a girl's ass = basically the polar opposite of how Asian males portrayed in American culture
― iatee, Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:03 (eleven years ago) link
and that's exactly the part of the video that everybody's miming
― barthes simpson, Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:04 (eleven years ago) link
I can only speak for myself
― iatee, Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link
fetchboy otm. psy, the guest stars and the whole clip ooze charisma so broad that it neatly appeals to western audiences. there are certainly 12 or so people in the world who are LOOOL AZN but in general people are responding because it's amazing.
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:07 (eleven years ago) link
what is the polar opposite of a dude checking out a girl's ass?
a dude checking out a girl's vagina?a girl checking out a dude's ass?
― cherry (soda), Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:10 (eleven years ago) link
ass checking out dude, duh
― iatee, Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:10 (eleven years ago) link
ass bites man, now that's a story
― Liberian Girlkeeper (some dude), Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:11 (eleven years ago) link
bingo
i know of not one person who thinks this is funny because, y'know, asians
― frogbs, Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:11 (eleven years ago) link
well, they are on the opposite side of the world so maybe there's like a coreolis effect of ass-checking out and it goes backwards
― cherry (soda), Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:12 (eleven years ago) link
the brown eye blinks
― cherry (soda), Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link
have at least a decent number of people that showed gangnam style to their friends gone "hey dude check out this crazy asian music video" ? probably, yeah. that seems like de facto evidence for the argument that some of the popularity here is ultimately rooted in racist thinking. the video isn't racist, liking it isn't racist, but some of its popularity in the US is definitely due to some fascination with "the_east" and the fact that a chunky-guy might be less threatening when he's korean.
see also: bringing up gangnam style as a cool thing when you see your [asian] friend! how come you never told me about this, dude?? this is hilarious, watch it, you'll love it!!!
― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Thursday, 27 September 2012 02:21 (eleven years ago) link
The prejudices are so ingrained in US culture, i'm not sure any funny video with an Asian lead wouldn't be seen by at least some of the audience as a 'lol funny Asian' video in a similar way. At the same time, there has always been an element of suspicion surrounding genuine US / European fan engagement with Asian pop culture - J-Pop and K-pop fans have always been accused of fetishising the culture, and the people, in an unhealthy way which make it difficult to see how any crossover song could escape the issues this one brings up.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Thursday, 27 September 2012 07:53 (eleven years ago) link
I only knew a world where racist douchebags could enjoy pop music equally as the unprejudiced, BUT LO! For I have found this thread!
― ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Thursday, 27 September 2012 07:55 (eleven years ago) link
MTV Hits has taken to playing "Gangnam Style" back to back with a Wonder Girls video
― the definition of fuckshit bird (some dude), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
I think the point I was trying to make was misunderstood
I completely agree that a good chunk of the fascination with this video is a racist "lol look at the funny Asian" impulse; my point, which I think is being echoed by others, is that it isn't the only impulse and the song's apparent staying power seems to be tied to people enjoying the actual song as well.
The Rebecca Black comparison proves my point from the opposite direction; the reason why that kept going was the staggering ineptitude on every level of the song/video, from the music to the lyrics to the performance to the bizarre, disjointed video (notice that RB hasn't been able to recreate that impact with anything else she's done). It was a perfect storm of terrible and weird that kept people fascinated; there was more going on than just "oh it's a bad song/video", it was an EPICLY, STAGGERINGLY, MIND-MELTINGLY bad song/video. Likewise with Psy, beyond the "oh funny Asian dude in a video" reaction, the song is super catchy with hooks galore and fits very neatly into the current US pop sonic palette; I honestly don't think people would be as into this as a phenomenon had we not just had two years of LMFAO domination.
― set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
Heard this on the radio last night, clubby top 40-ish station, and divested of the video it was still plenty of fun. It's sort of funny how Psy's Korean totally fits on the radio as well as the average gibberish-spewing jock jam redux act.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
lots of people doing the dance at oktoberfest this year
― caek, Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
with a Wonder Girls video
goddammit "like money" is horrible
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
yes it is
― some dude, Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
feel fairly certain this will be the UK #1 on sunday
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link
and almost as certainly the US #1 the following wednesday
― some dude, Thursday, 27 September 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbYiRUMp42c
― Nickelback of folk (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 27 September 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
the rest of the album is... not great
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
the LMFAO parallels continue
― set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
It's already #1 in Canada.
― MarkoP, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
the only time i've ever seen it (this is a few weeks ago) was in a special edition tin in an asian music/dvd shop in the city. wondering whether i'll haphazardly walk into my local jb hi-fi and just be accosted by it.
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
i do find it kind of weird that PSY has like 5-6 albums out and nobody's ever talked about any of his other songs
― frogbs, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link
Speak for yourself. I totally preferred him before he sold out.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
quick, name a los del rio song besides "macarena"
― space dokken (Edward III), Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
are you guys done sucking the fun out of gangnam style yet
― space dokken (Edward III), Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
just curious
xxp that's different. first of all Los Del Rio wasn't the reason why that song was popular. secondly the Macarena was just a thing onto itself. nobody really knew who Los Del Rio was. you probably wouldn't have recognized them if you saw them on the street. PSY is on his way to becoming a celebrity here (at least on the level of, say, Ceelo Green). I dunno. I'd have thought someone would have combed their way through his other albums. I did have a listen to the first one and it's decent. Has Macho Man samples on it. Come on guys.
― frogbs, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
They should have PSY as a judge on next season of American Idol.
― o. nate, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
saw this guy last week, I was totally doing the psy ride-a-horsie move during his set
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDdWGUFSUv4
― space dokken (Edward III), Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
i do find it kind of weird that PSY has like 5-6 albums out and nobody's ever talked about any of his other songsI saw this video posted by a friend on Facebookhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmHdefsaL6I
― MarkoP, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
i would recognize Los Del Rio if i saw them on the street! they were sharply dressed ethnic men who appeared in a very popular music video!
― some dude, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
was walking past a college dorm this evening and glanced at a window: one college freshlady was gesticulating about and demonstrating the horsey dance to her pals
― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Friday, 28 September 2012 01:16 (eleven years ago) link