Why does black people never want to rock?

My wife initially thought "Black Country Rock" was about black country-rock.

OFRA HAZA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whoa, this thread. o_O I didn't read much, but wtf. Just some trolling?

A lot of bullshit here, but this post actually makes a lot of sense.

no one's mentioned PHIL FUCKING LINNOT of Thin Lizzy. But the list of black rock musicians would be near endless... the real question is why isn't "rock" marketed to black people, and why the continual ghetto-ization of genres into "this music is for black people" and "this music is for white people" still exists. It's very blatant. Go to any record store - 99% of the black artists are in "r&b/hip hop" and 99% of the white artists are in "rock". Total bullshit - the division is an artificial one perpetuated by racist marketing.

Surely there's an element of racism in the marketing. I mean, why are Lionel Richie and Seal R&B/soul while George Michael and Hall & Oates are not?

Blue eyed SOUL. There's a clue in the name.

Imagine if Mark Hammill had a intense thang for soul music.
"Use the Funk, Luke! Feel the Funk Flowing Through You!"

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Blue eyed SOUL. There's a clue in the name.

It seems "blue eyed" is the clue that causes the shops to classify them as "rock & pop" rather than "soul/R&B"

Of course the lack of logic here is not race-related only. What is it that makes most record stores categorize the entire Jackson family as pop/rock, but hardly any other black acts other than Hendrix/Kravitz etc, for instance?

And the lack of logic when it comes to what is hard rock and what is not is even more laughable. One record store chain here classifies Flower Kings and Spock's Beard as hard rock/metal while Led Zeppelin are not.

Together we made it (you see we did it niggaz!)
We made it even though we had our backs up against the wall (c'mon)
Forever we waited {ha ha!}
And they told us we were never gonna get it
But we took it on the road (to the riches) on the road (to the ghetto)
On the rooooad (and the projects to this bangin instrumental)
On the road (ride with me) on the road (we come and get it)
On the rooooad (yeah, yeah, yeah!)

OFRA HAZA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

??? Ofra Haza is neither black nor rock.

i like that so many posters immediate reaction to the first post was "indies not rock"

no wait i dont like that at all

Yeah the embarrassment here wasn't only on the thread poster's hands. Between that and like, "wtf dude, Chuck Berry!" or whatever (when the question was directly regarding hiphop / indie rock) ILM's got a little slack to tend to. Only skimmed it, maybe there was more.

cue copy/paste of me being an idiot/loon someplace, I know it's happened.

black people never want to cause rock interferes with bluetooth http://i36.tinypic.com/6oood3.jpg

it's largely cultural.

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Expand on dat.

Why does whitey never on the moon?

I recently received the first Nona Hendryx album, which I kind of ordered by mistake (I thought it was "Nona" from 1983 that was rereleased, and didn't realize it was her debut until I had already ordered it).

The content surprised me though. Here is a black female soul singer who used to be in Labelle, recording a new wave-ish rock album as her solo debut. "Nona" would be more traditional soul music (and a great example of that), but this album is actually not at all bad, a fully fledge rock album, only sung with a soulful R&B voice.

you're on the wrong thread, but of course you would revive this

Nona Hendryx (produced by Tangerine Dream's Peter Bauman)'s "Skindiver". for fans of kate bush, peter gabriel or david sylvian

oh god, this thread.

omg the fine art of thread revive as self-parody

hey, i'm a black girl but i really do love rock music and i felt kinda bad about until I read some of things you wrote so thanks and I realaized that hey! music is music , if you like it you like it
― me, Tuesday, March 16, 2004 11:42 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark

This is the best post in the entire thread.

Quit reviving this shit, yo

Son House
Robert Johnson
Muddy Waters
Willie Dixon
John Lee Hooker
Howlin' Wolf
Elmore James
Ike Turner
Little Richard
Chuck Berry

equals invented rock & roll

I think maybe the question implied the word "anymore" at the end of it.

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Geir made a comment upthread about Hall & Oates and the like. I remember the early 80s where, depending on where you shopped, you could find so-called "blue-eyed soul" filed under soul / r & b.

Why doesn't white indie rock kids want to country music?

they did in the 90s

um yeah have you heard of this band, I think they're called Wilco

Palace Bros

Cass McCoombs

"y'allternative"

http://www.nodepression.com/

http://www.mariobalotelli.it/en

Alt-country, huh? Someone link me to where pitchfork reviewed a Garth Brooks or Randy Travis album.

I think there's an interesting cultural conundrum buried in here somewhere. Top 40 music in other genres has crossed over to the indie set, but not Top 40 country music. Why not?

oh you're asking THAT question. take it up with the rolling country thread and chuck eddy et al

drummer from ocean colour scene was black, iirc.

well, pitchfork didn't exist when i was at my whitest and indiest, thank christ...

um, but yeah basically speaking as someone who worshipped uncle tupelo and shit back then, we definitely started to verge over to regular country which i still love to this day as a result of starting with tupelo/jayhawks/palace bros, etc...

obv it started with like townes van zandt, guy clark, jimmy dale gilmore etc...then on to waylon and willie....but then pretty soon a lot of my friends and i were listening to george jones, dwight yoakam (at the height of his commericial popularity circa "this time"), and even dudes like gary allen, (some) alan jackson, randy travis, george strait, and tons of o.g. shit old time nashville stuff

a lot of dudes that were super alt country (way more than me) that i came up with now are just country dudes period, don't even like indie at all anymore

vampire weekend's next record is gonna be country

typo

seems like an indie alt country revival would kinda make sense, by way of the grateful dead and the byrds, lots of nu-psych bands will probably end up going up the country eventually

You know why they keep making CDs when the rest of the world has figured out how to steal/download mp3s? COUNTRY MUSIC.

Why does people want to keep reviving this thread?

i do it for the lulz

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There was like a four page feature on Jamey Johnson in Spin. Brad and Miranda had a little crossover love in 2009 too.

Indie kidz and major country are still def in the "dabbling" stages but the marriage certainly isn't unheard of

I keep forgetting Spin exists.

You know why they keep making CDs when the rest of the world has figured out how to steal/download mp3s? COUNTRY MUSIC.

You know.... there is this funny little (?) thing called prog. It is actually now at its most popular since the mid 70s. And it has never quite caught on in the case of digital downloads. Maybe because people feel like concept albums filled with 30 minute suites and ambitious album artwork is more tempting to buy on CD than on digital files......