"If That Arm Heals, It Ought To Be Broken Again" 2008 Jazz D Minor Bags Thread

really, really great piece on miles davis dissing oscar peterson, the blues in jazz, etc.

(at do the math)

That was awesome. Only thing is he doesn't mention "Song For My Father" or "Watermelon Man." Maybe he gets around to them in the footnotes, which I haven't read yet.

pretty interesting article, but way too effin' long. i like this quote from davis: "I don't know what they mean when they say 'swing hard' anyway." Doesn't that kind of sound like Xhuxk or Tom E talking?

No, because xhuxk would immediately supply one hundred exemplars of his own understanding of what the word is supposed to mean.

This article was especially interesting to me because I just read through the Ben Ratliff Coltrane book and this does a better job than BR does of, um, healing old wounds.

i recently picked up a nice vinyl copy of The Cannonball Adderly Quintet in San Francisco, I think it's his first thing after leaving the legendary Miles band w/Coltrane...from like 59...bros down with Nat.

Really nice stuff, very gospel and R&B influenced, almost a Ray Charles feel to some of the piano rhythm parts, but yeah I think it's a little poppy and breezy and got dissed for being so at the time, like he'd sold out the hardco-ah scene, but I think it's great, very fun and ingratiating w/o seeming corny.

Also got "Inception" by the McCoy Tyner Trio, his first deal as well, nice sealed copy of a late 80s Impluse! reissue, very nice stuff as well.

He learned that and runs it into the ground worse than Billy Taylor.
Ha, you got to hear a lot of both of these guys recently since, as noted above, sort of, Billy Taylor's bass player passed away shortly after OP.

Kind of a hilarious article here: http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=28260

I stayed in one of these resorts and it's not so bad (especially with kids), so dude is being kind of a drama queen. But his research into Mexico's hate/hate affair with jazz is pretty amazing, and I like how he is willing to tear new ones for lazy schmuck artists.

Is that the guy who has all the theory lessons on the web?

idk, how do i shot web?

If you have to ask, you'll never know.

No, the other guy is Marc Sabatella.

"d minor bags"!!

Charlie Mingus' death in Cuernavaca
I know that Dexter Gordon was down in Cuernavaca for a while, but I'm not sure what he was doing there.

"d minor bags"!!
Yeah, that was a really bad joke, sorry.

Haw, I liked it.

Next one I'm calling Jazz G7 Bags Thread, if I remember to.

Hm. Usually when I heard the word "fusion" that's when I reach for my Revolver, but this looks kind of interesting.

Manieri is really good -- and Tony Levin!

Yeah, exactly. Plus I've seen Donny McCaslin once or twice before in Latin Jazz contexts and he's good too.

Sounds like something I would have been psyched about in high school. God, so many sterile, chopsy albums with Steve Smith, Mike Stern, Victor Wooten, Dennis Chambers, ad infinitum.

That's why Donny McCaslin is the tie-in, he's from a younger generation with a little more of the Latin influence, hopefully keeping the whole thing from fusioning out of control.

Although maybe he'll just get caught up in the ball of con-fusion like everybody else.

Picked up Matthew Shipp's Nu-Bop today.

Basically sounds like dude had been listening to a bunch of Aphex Twin and wanted to play around with techno-jazz. It's pretty good, stays kinetic enough that it never veers into Smooth territory even though the 9 tracks are basically 9 variations on a theme. A bit repetitive, but I dig it.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080225/stillman

^ hilarious albert ayler story in http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080225/stillman

oops

basically "i got really high and listened to albert ayler and had great insights about western civilization" but it's fun

I love Nu Bop!

I just ordered the David S. Ware album from last year. Have high expectations.

I need to get back to seeing live jazz again. I've gotten lazy.

Haven't heard Nu-Bop in forever, but the bassline on the title track is sick.

I just ordered the new Nik Bartsch disc!

Went to 55 Bar to see Lew Soloff- it was his birthday so he had a few special guests play with him- many of whom the doorman charged a cover! Big guy walks up with a trumpet and says "I'm Jon Faddis, former director of the Jazz Orchestra at Lincoln Center" and the Dan-Hedaya-crossed-with-Stifler-looking doorman holds out his hand and says "And I'm Paul R4mirez, pleased to meet you, but you still gotta pay ten bucks." Other guest was Jerry Vivino (who I never realized was a different person from his brother Jimmy)

When they got started, John Faddis played "Happy Birthday" at him, then Lew called "Equinox", then they played "How High The Moon" followed by "My Funny Valentine" dedicated to his daughter. Sort of ended with "Night In Tunisia" but then they fooled around with a tango -"La Cumparsita"- I think, and then on some kind of "Hava Nagila" crossed with "St. James Infirmary," I don't think the band even knew what the tune was.

Lew has a great way of sort of starting with kind of lazy bleat and then getting louder and more forceful as he goes along. Lew and Jon had a little bit of a contest during "Tunisia," I think Jon kind of won, he was channeling Diz. I like that about jazz, that bigtime cats play the same corny tunes that Jordan played in Jazz 101 and they make it sound so good.

Took my dad (the jazz fan in the family who grew up in NY seeing shows at Bop City and such) Tuesday night out to 1,900 seat Strathmore in suburban Md./DC to see the 50th anniversary Monterey Jazz Festival on tour (54 United States shows; in Jersey tonight and tomorrow) with pianist Benny Green, James Moody, Terence Blanchard, bassist Derrick Hodge, drummer Kendrick Scott and singer Nnena Freelon...

Nice, well-balanced show---Moody's bad jokes, vocalese and nice blowing; trumpeter Blanchard's somber New Orleans cuts from his latest effort; a Coltrane number; fine young 20-somethings Hodge and Scott and pianist Green who looks like he's 18 but is older; Freelon closing with "Misty"

I have missed Blanchard on recent headlining gigs and this taste of his playing made me that much more eager to see him in a headline role sometime.

I got the whole set of those Jazz Icons DVDs last year, but never dug into 'em until now. Took home Art Blakey (Belgium, 1958, one month after Moanin' was recorded) and Thelonious Monk (Norway and Denmark, 1966). Watched the Blakey last night. Lee Morgan, Benny Golson, Bobby Timmons, Jymie Merritt, and Blakey, just tearing through "Moanin'" and "A Night In Tunisia" and four or five other pieces - 55 minutes all together. Fucking killer, killer stuff. I could listen to Lee Morgan all day every day for a year.

Nice. I've only been to the 55 Bar once, to see Ari Hoenig's band, but it was cool.

I saw the the Monterey tour when I was a freshman in college, and it was Nick Payton's quintet w/Cedar Walton, Randy Brecker, sax dude I can't remember the name of, etc..

I got that Nik Bartsch cd (Holon) and listened to the first two cuts on the way to work this morning. It's so sick...it's as much Steve Reich as anything relating to jazz (the closest parallels might be some M-Base shit or Vijay Ayer, but this is much more composed and cinematic than that), but who cares what you call it.

Picking apart the time signatures almost feels like doing a crossword puzzle or something.

Yeah, Ronin albums are scarily beautiful. Do you have the earlier ones? He switched to piano from Fender Rhodes on this new one.

No, I only have the new one and Stoa (which I think was all piano as well). The older tracks on his myspace sound great, less complicated and funkier.

Herbie Hancock is a friend of Listening Post, so we were delighted when he took Album of the Year honors at this year's Grammys even though 87.7 percent of this blog's readers think the awards don't matter, and the ceremony must, by its very nature, honor the John Mayers of the world over its Mark E. Smiths.

But apparently, lots of people base album buying decisions on the award. His win has proven a boon to sales, bumping River: The Joni Letters 967 percent to number 5 on the Billboard 200 chart -- Hancock's highest result ever in his long, storied career, which now includes 12 of the trophies.

Tomorrow night, Hancock will perform on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno.

"Tell that to your new leader- Leno!"

Sold 54,000 before Grammys and that same amount in the week after, and now more

I almost bought it...but I didn't.

So far I would list my favoritest things I've heard like this:

1. Cuong Vu, Vu-Tet
2. Steven Bernstein, Diaspora Suite (Miles-ish space funk, but Jewisher)
3. Louie Bellson and Clark Terry, Louie and Clark Expedition 2 (big-band corny stuff but really good and kinda forward-looking -- Duke Ellington once said Bellson was the world's greatest musician and he was married to Pearl Bailey so that's good enough for me, jack)
4. Matana Roberts, The Chicago Project (only had it for a couple of days, moving up quickly)
5. Cowboys From Hell, Monster Rodeo (metal-jazz from Switzerland, covers of the "Halloween" theme and straight-up beat-jacks from "Eye of the Tiger", so amazing)
6. Jason Kao Hwang/Edge, Stories Before Within (Third Stream weirdness, kinda good while shoveling at midnight)
7. The Wrong Object, Stories From the Shed (Zappa Tribute Band goes jazz-legit LOL)
8. François Ingold Trio, Fat Free (v.nice)
9. Keith Marks, Foreign Funk (jazz flautist gets down with "Axel F"...but actually better than that sounds)
10. Joe Locke Quartet, Sticks and Strings (I'm a sucker for vibes)

okay my copy of Maceo Parker's Roots and Grooves just arrived and it is SHIT HOT Y'ALL. He's playing with the Cologne big band WDR; one disc of Ray Charles covers, one disc of good old Maceo funk stuff including an 18 minute "Pass the Peas." Dude can still play the holy hell out of that saxophone, it's like he hasn't aged a day. WOW BLAM ZING.

Mo' Roots & Southern Exposure are classics. Life on Planet Groove is a good time too, though I haven't heard it for years.

I keep almost buying Life on Planet Groove at Strictly Discs, they always have it there...but then something else catches my eye.

Meeting Maceo Parker and Fred Wesley while working as a snack-bar clerk in Newark Airport was one of the greatest things to happen to teenaged me.

'A Beginner's Guide to Coltrane on Impulse'

yeah I've been into Bernstein's Diaspora too. Saw this great footage from early '60s this week of Anita O'Day live in Japan, swinging--whatever that means--hard and looking cooler than anyone in history. Also found the Free Form Funky Freqs' Urban Mythology really far better than I would've guessed.

Have you guys heard about Andrew D'Angelo? He has brain cancer, no insurance...there's been a bunch of benefits, I was going to go to one in Chicago yesterday but didn't make it. He's blogging about it pretty extensively, which is kind of fascinating.

but, while i would like to better understand the latin roots in his music, i don't think its description should be so limited or defined

I thought that there was a long running jazz thread smehwhere but I can't seem to find it. Anyway I've been listening to jazz now for several years after ignoring it my entire life. I bought Wes Montgomery's Smokin' at the Half Note which is really fantastic and I can't say enough good things about it. The band he plays with, the Wyton Kelly Trio, is also (equally) great but Wynton Kelly only seems to have one album and from the cuts I've heard it's worth getting as well. Maybe some recommendations on some things Wynton has been involved with? Also any jazz stuff you might like post about.

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ok, I found this thread

wynton is great on the Miles Davis stuff, obviously, but also on a bunch of Hank Mobley Blue Note dates ...

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If you lose it again, just search for "jazz d"

yeah, Jordan gave me the Hank Mobley tip. Never heard him. Man, there's a lot of stuff out there.

I also picked up the Charlie Rouse Bossanova Bacchanal which is also good but the last song that was tacked on (a straight jazz tune not from the Bossanova sessions apparently) is a real stunner. I'm gathering he never did anything else as a bank leader besides that song which is a real shame.

band leader

just bought some records from a friend:

Mal Waldron (feat steve lacy) - Hard Talk --- fucking WOW

Lee Morgan - The Cooker

Art Pepper - Smack Up

Dexter Gordon - Dexter Calling

all really great stuff

The new Joshua Redman album, Compass is pretty damn good. Between this and 2007's Back East, he's on a sort of mini-roll. The new one features him as the sole horn, fronting bassists Larry Grenadier and Reuben Rogers and drummers Brian Blade and Gregory Hutchinson. A few tracks feature a straight saxophone trio (Grenadier/Blade or Rogers/Hutchinson), others feature both bass players and one of the drummers, and a couple feature all five musicians at once. Coming out on Nonesuch next month; at 13 tracks in 72 minutes, it's about five tracks and 25 minutes too long, but I can't honestly say which ones I'd cut, so: recommended.

that sounds good, i was wondering where gregory hutchinson's been at. i love him on christian mcbride's "a family affair" (awesome record).

Maybe somebody should start a new thread. I tried to find a title here but couldn't pick one: http://thebadplus.typepad.com/dothemath/2008/12/steve-lacy-on-monk.html

"if you don't want to play, tell a joke or dance" or "let's lift the bandstand!!"

You've got it!

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