The Police: Classic or Dud, Search and Destroy

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no, it's terrible - but I am awaiting the Police revival. I think they've missed their chance to be retro-cool, more likely they will one day be retro-kitsch, like lounge music from the 60s. certain people will think they're underrated geniuses, everyone else will wonder what the fuss is about

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 14 October 2005 01:41 (eighteen years ago) link

"Born in the Fifties" is awesome and hilarious if you read it as Sting (Born: 1951) trying to present his credentials as a Vital Punk Dude birthed in the closing seconds of 1959, as if he wasn't an ancient deputy headmaster or something.

For all that, the Police were classic!

Great Stewart Copeland interview here, wherein he admits that much of his awesome ride bell playing was overdubbed. Haha!

retort pouch (retort pouch), Friday, 14 October 2005 02:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh man, how fantastic is this?

retort pouch (retort pouch), Friday, 14 October 2005 02:21 (eighteen years ago) link

o.g version of "don't stand so close" to me and "voices inside my head" are two of my favorite songs ever. and yes, stewart copeland is magical.

buboclot, Friday, 14 October 2005 11:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Great Stewart Copeland interview here, wherein he admits that much of his awesome ride bell playing was overdubbed. Haha!

That ain't nothin' new. Copeland was never afraid to use studio technology to build drum tracks. "Every Breath You Take" was half live, half programmed - the kick & snare were Linn Drum, with Copeland overdubbing the high-hat & cymbals seperately.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh god. I can't STAND "Born In the Fifties". Not only is the song itself awful, but the way he SINGS it is just...not suited to his strengths as a vocalist at all. Pushes too hard.

Bimble The Nimble, Jumped Over A Thimble! (Bimble...), Saturday, 15 October 2005 02:42 (eighteen years ago) link

from the above Copeland interview,
Copeland has of late also probed The Police catalog with what he has dubbed "derangements." "They are Police tracks lobotomized to concoct new recordings," he explains. Mixing live and studio versions, instrumental tracks of an original with the vocals from a later version, the jam from mid-"Roxanne" with the lyrics to "So Lonely," and so on, these derangements are expected to be heard as bonus tracks on new reissues

auto mash-up !

blunt (blunt), Saturday, 15 October 2005 02:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I was *really* into Ghost in the Machine when I was a kid. The cover was awesome.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 15 October 2005 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link

It took me forever to realize that the cover art was meant to represent human faces. (Mind you I had the same reaction to the Glider EP.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 October 2005 03:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't understand how any one could possibly consider "Tea In The Sahara" to be worthy of the "destroy" tag. Since I first heard the song, it's been among my 3 favorite Police tracks. I like the chorus of "Born In The Fifties," and I've never once considered it to be bad, although I pretty much always skip it just because I'd rather get to the better songs.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 15 October 2005 04:07 (eighteen years ago) link

They dropped the bomb on us
While we made love on the BEACH
We were the class they couldn't TEACH
Cuz we knew BET-TAH

I thought that song was great when I was about 11, even though I had no idea what he was going on about. By the time I was old enough to realize how silly it was my fondness for it was firmly entrenched. Totally stupid, but not a bad hook. As fake as fake-punk got.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 15 October 2005 05:07 (eighteen years ago) link

the lyrical whatever is horrifyingly embarrassing but the police had a great overall sound, all those thin sharp totally un-analog recordings w/o being too baroque or over-orchestrated. come to think their records sound almost exactly like zz top from the same era but with the guitars played a little different.

geoff (gcannon), Saturday, 15 October 2005 05:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't understand how any one could possibly consider "Tea In The Sahara" to be worthy of the "destroy" tag.

Because it's a hopelessly pretentious sack of tepid, runny DUNG wherein Sting grabs an unsuspecting Paul Bowles novel by the sensitive bits, pours syrup all over it and then proceeds to bugger it inconsiderably, whilst coming up with some of the worst couplets of his already pock-marked career. It's AWFUL!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 15 October 2005 05:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm one of those who never took their lyrics too seriously I guess.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 15 October 2005 12:09 (eighteen years ago) link

wherein Sting grabs an unsuspecting Paul Bowles novel by the sensitive bits, pours syrup all over it and then proceeds to bugger it inconsiderably

Very interesting.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 15 October 2005 12:33 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Is doom nigh?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

We've all got our tickets!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, that Sting:

Then after performing the works of Elizabethan lute master John Dowland for US TV last weekend he was asked about the rumours.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

He grumpily retaliated by saying that the interviewer must be mixing him up with the fleetwood mac.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

But, will they play "I Burn for You"?

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 06:12 (seventeen years ago) link

COMPLETELY CLASSIC!

I'm listening to "Bring On The Night" right now and I'm kinda freaking out about it.

I also just listened to "Born In The 50's." My God.

"My mother cried
When president Kennedy died
She said it was the communists
But I knew better"

AGHHHHHHH!

Davey D (Dave Depper), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 07:24 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG! Sting says they'll do all lute versions of the Police songs on the reunion tour!

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 07:25 (seventeen years ago) link

It begins.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Fear it.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Annie Lennox should join'em too.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

If there is a god, please let them start the show with 'Mother'.

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Sting vs. Miles

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

Just about the best mother fucking thing from 1983. Beware. I don't care if John D. jumps on my ass. I really don't care. I'll willingly take a beating for this record.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 10 August 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

There's a little black spot on the sun today.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 10 August 2008 02:15 (fifteen years ago) link

something i remember: sitting in 8th grade art class and telling john crichton (who wasn't a particular friend of mine, just the kid sitting next to me) that synchronicity was coming out the next day. he looked at me and said "so what?" i said something like the police were the best band in the world and he just kind of shook his head.

in retrospect i think it's the least of the police, but that's a relative measure and i'll defend most of it on one ground or another.

tipsy mothra, Sunday, 10 August 2008 02:42 (fifteen years ago) link

(but it's not the best thing from '83, even if i thought so then)

tipsy mothra, Sunday, 10 August 2008 02:43 (fifteen years ago) link

KING OF PAIN

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 10 August 2008 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Listen to the fucking BASS on that!

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 10 August 2008 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

"Synchronicity I" is pretty underrated.. and I still love "Oh My God" and "Tea In The Sahara."

billstevejim, Sunday, 10 August 2008 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link

and then there's 'mother'

mookieproof, Sunday, 10 August 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

yup..

"Mother" adds character. Police albums aren't complete without at least 1 huge WTF moment.

billstevejim, Sunday, 10 August 2008 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

And I like that "Mother" is in 7/8.

billstevejim, Sunday, 10 August 2008 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

many miles away
there's a shadow on the door
of a cottage on the shore
of a dark
scottish lake
many miles away

kamerad, Sunday, 10 August 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link

oh scottish monster please listen
don't devour me

mookieproof, Sunday, 10 August 2008 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I WILL LISTEN HARD TO YOUR TUITION

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 10 August 2008 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link

four years pass...

ska horseshit is horseshit

Poliopolice, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 01:16 (eleven years ago) link

four years pass...

I know they get no respect these days but I still feel - walking on the moon - if it comes on in public. I love the double snare hit near the end and the subsequent hi hat solo of sorts

calstars, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 20:22 (six years ago) link

Cool Copeland and Summers bits more than make up for even the band's worst moments.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link

even sting's depths in to wretched irrelevance and this photo

http://https%3A//pbs.twimg.com/media/BNnKXTeCIAAohZo.jpg

cannot destroy how good the Police are

akm, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link

bah https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNnKXTeCIAAohZo.jpg

akm, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link

The horror

calstars, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link

Sting in bringing the tantric lute jams SHOCKAH!

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link

Let "Tantric lute jams" never again be spoken of on ilx

calstars, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link

fuck tha Police

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 23:02 (six years ago) link

okay Stew making that his background is indeed very funny

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 03:30 (one month ago) link

Chances that he arranged that with the camera crew on purpose ? 75%?

calstars, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 03:46 (one month ago) link

You don't have to put on the red lute

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 03:55 (one month ago) link

got that Klark Kent compilation on again, you know what he's annoying but damn he writes really catchy songs. or maybe he just drums in a way that makes everything sound catchy. I mean "Too Kool to Kalypso" says it all - obnoxious vocals, obnoxious lyrics, obnoxious kazoo, but he's a force of nature on the kit and the song will be stuck in your head forever. also love that half this shit was clearly written for Sting

frogbs, Saturday, 16 March 2024 03:47 (one month ago) link

like c'mon he was wrong to reject this. imagine how good this would've been on Reggatta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIMitPazAgQ

frogbs, Saturday, 16 March 2024 03:53 (one month ago) link

If that picture of Sting with the Lute was Dimebag Darrell, it would be him with some crazy Dean lightning bolt guitar at a strip club with an exotic dancer on a riser next to a stripper pole in that pose.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Saturday, 16 March 2024 14:45 (one month ago) link

like c'mon he was wrong to reject this. imagine how good this would've been on Reggatta.

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This is too goofy. Serious Sting would not accept

calstars, Saturday, 16 March 2024 18:59 (one month ago) link

he can rewrite all the lyrics if he wants, the song itself such pure power pop

frogbs, Sunday, 17 March 2024 16:21 (one month ago) link

Exactly. Police don't do power pop.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 March 2024 16:53 (one month ago) link

On the first two albums they sorta did. Which I think is when these songs were written

frogbs, Sunday, 17 March 2024 16:56 (one month ago) link

Hmm, I still don't hear the power pop. Maybe "Born in the 50's", and if you squint sideways something like "Next to You" miiiiight fit, but you'd have to be pretty generous with what you consider power pop.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 March 2024 18:07 (one month ago) link

fuck, i’m like “fall out” is who-style powerpop, and i assumed it was on outlandos, but no.

i actually only knew it from an off-the-air recording i made from wlir in 82 of police playing live from like 79. last listened to in the 80s? that memorable? senility?

... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:26 (one month ago) link

Last three tracks on Reggatta are power poppish

frogbs, Sunday, 17 March 2024 22:28 (one month ago) link


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