Teedra Moses

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It's an odd track both for being Lil Jon and not sounding like what you'd expect, and for coming right after the two most classicist slow jam tracks on the album. I like it, but more for Teedra's performance than the groove - when she says "I damn near slapped her face" and "I may never, may never, may never, may never, may never wanna deal with this again" - lovely moments! She has a great intuitive sense for how to phrase a vocal.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

Has anyone noticed the shoddy production that opens "You Better Tell Her?" It's on my promo copy and the MP3 that I downloaded to make sure my ears weren't crazy -- a sort of wooshing, poorly-burned-CD sound that creates really nasty polyrhythms. WTF? Otherwise, that track's my favorite on the record -- Lil Jon really knows how to treat the ladies.

― Rich (Rich), Monday, 8 November 2004 23:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yeah that's on my copy too but I assumed that it was the MP3 rip.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 8 November 2004 23:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

Mine as well

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 8 November 2004 23:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

I think "Be Your Girl" has the same piano sample as "One on One" by Nas and Large Professor. Its a great mournful piano trick.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 07:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

It's an odd choice for a single, for sure

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 07:18 (8 years ago) Permalink

I got this album a month ago for $7. I knew when I saw the gorgeous video for "Be Your Girl" that the album was gonna be just as hot. "Last Day" and "Be Your Girl" are pure ear candy.

― kevin says relax (daddy warbuxx), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 07:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

More thoughts here, though it's hard to top Matt who nailed it so damn perfectly on his article linked above.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 13 November 2004 10:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

(hey nice to see skykicking back up again tim)

― jones (actual), Saturday, 13 November 2004 18:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

I love the way the title track celebrates dancing and drinking and getting your party on while sounding a million miles from a song you'd dance, drink and get your party on to.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 15 November 2004 14:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

I still haven't marshalled my thoughts about this fucking amazing work into any semblance of order yet, but "Caution" needs to be mentioned, especially that wonderful image of 'red hot scowling'. Teedra's voice has this unbelievable clarity to it.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 10:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

I'm glad you like it Alex.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 10:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Teedra's voice has this unbelievable clarity to it."

Yeah this is spot on. It combines with her unusually vivid and visual lyrics to make her songs seem very filmic; and then Paul Poli's production is so frequently cinematic. My favourite line may still be the one that Matt quotes in his article from "Backstroke": "picture me in one of those two-seater things, top down so thoughts of you are in the breeze, and the wind, and the wind, and the wind is in my hair..."

But I also love the opening lines in "For A Lifetime": "you give and you give, but you never seem to get back in return/what you give, till your heart's a thirsty third-degree burns."

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 10:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

Something else which really stands out about the album is how sparse it sounds at first listen - really, it's just that stark, clear voice and a beat, and maybe one sample, pushed forward in the mix. But there are so many interesting things going on in the background! And this combines with your point about Teedra's lyrics - because the voice is so upfront (and because she avoids melisma, and makes a point of enunciating every word), the listener is forced to engage with exactly what she's saying.

All of this is in contrast to the sophisticated, slightly hazy, evening-dress-and-glass-of-wine image which Teedra projects. The effect is rather like Sade brought suddenly into really sharp focus.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 11:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

"And this combines with your point about Teedra's lyrics - because the voice is so upfront (and because she avoids melisma, and makes a point of enunciating every word), the listener is forced to engage with exactly what she's saying."

OTM. I knew you would like this album Alex. It engages the same pleasure receptors in my brains as are engaged by all the stuff we both like.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 12:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

Haha the Teedra Moses/Stina Nordenstam connection! (That's not even a joke, they both share a very... crystalline quality.)

It's why I bought it actually, the things you said you liked about it are the same things that are present in everything we both like.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 12:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Just listening to this now. Only up to track 4 so far. 'Backstroke' stands out a mile. What a wonderful track, sonically and emotionally.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 20 January 2005 19:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

same here alba. just caught on yesterday based on the albums poll. what an impressive album. usually the combined weight of 4 minute tracks wears my ears down, but not here...

― john'n'chicago, Thursday, 20 January 2005 20:02 (8 years ago) Permalink

I'm really glad you both like this!

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 20 January 2005 20:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

I love it. A fine album.

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 January 2005 20:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

i love the "daddy, i'm too cute to fight, you better get that bitch told tonight" line.

also, may i suggest rashaan patterson's After Hours, specifically "So Hot", which i've said elsewhere is the best thing i've heard so far this year.

― john'n'chicago, Thursday, 20 January 2005 22:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

Will do - thanks. (It's Rahsaan, not Rashaan, I've discovered)

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 20 January 2005 22:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

wow. i'm an idiot. i need to correct the thread i started about the guy.

also, i couldn't get teedra out of my head last night, esp. the title track.

― john'n'chiago, Friday, 21 January 2005 15:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

I think "Be Your Girl" has the same piano sample as "One on One" by Nas

saw the video on tv today and, yeah, it does. anyone know just where the sample's from though?

― jermaine, Saturday, 26 February 2005 13:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

Ahmad Jamal's The Awakening, apparently.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 26 February 2005 14:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

I might be interviewing Teedra tomorrow!

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 June 2005 09:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

Sweet!

― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Thursday, 2 June 2005 09:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

who for? i'd be interested to read it.

― stelfox, Thursday, 2 June 2005 09:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

Plan B

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 June 2005 09:46 (7 years ago) Permalink

I haven't done an interview in about a YEAR. I am actually a little nervous. About two weeks ago I had a daydream about interviewing Teedra, during which I came up with lots of interesting and awesome questions. Needless to say I can remember none of them now.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 June 2005 09:48 (7 years ago) Permalink

Take her shopping! That could help.

― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Thursday, 2 June 2005 09:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

I think I get vv limited time with her, I am not sure if this makes it worse or better (ans: worse)

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 June 2005 09:52 (7 years ago) Permalink

Ask her for a new album post haste. Tell her she and Kiley should team up and lay the smackdown on Whitney and Mariah. Ask her if she danced in the 'Dip It Low' vid and tell her she has fabulous taste in outfits.

― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Thursday, 2 June 2005 10:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

i love the be your girl single, but as for the rest of the album, it seemed pretty below-par. nice voice, just not that great songs. she sings what seems like the same melody song after song.

― ppp, Thursday, 2 June 2005 10:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

they're really slow burners. the title track is one of my favourite songs ever, I think.

the cover of the UK release of the album is diffeent to the import I bought, I worry that this means BONUS TRACKS.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 June 2005 10:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

It does. I used iTunes to merge the tracklistings, though I still don't think I've completed either edition.

― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Thursday, 2 June 2005 10:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

i don't understand why outta my head isn't a massive favourite here. it's a great track

― stelfox, Thursday, 2 June 2005 10:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

well, slow burners maybe, or maybe theyre just not that great, actually. they dont seem particularly well written, theyre just listenable i find cos she has a nice voice. im selling my cd on ebay. its like a lot of R&B albums, one or two great songs, the rest is filler. i was hoping for better from her.

― ppp, Thursday, 2 June 2005 10:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

the Outta My Head/Complex Simplicity/For A Lifetime triptych is the peak of the album for me, a really incredible triple emotional blow.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 June 2005 10:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

i'd absolutely agree there.
something about last day really gets to me, too, though.

― stelfox, Thursday, 2 June 2005 10:48 (7 years ago) Permalink

I love the way it unwinds so...gracefully. there's so much relief there, like she's realised what the key to life is and can relax now.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 June 2005 10:52 (7 years ago) Permalink

i cant believe you guys are rhapsodising over teedra and yet noone on ILM is talking about the new mariah album. now THAT album is tremendous.

― ppp, Thursday, 2 June 2005 10:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

I would really like to hear the nouvelle Mariah, I love the single and the title.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 June 2005 11:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

seriously, its SO brilliant. the best R&B album of the year in my opinion. shes really outdone herself. the bridge on the single its like that is sublime. you have to hear we belong together and circles.

― ppp, Thursday, 2 June 2005 11:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

I think the new Mariah is great but so is teedra! Hardly *Just* about the voice for me. "Backstroke" is my favorite track.

― deej., Thursday, 2 June 2005 12:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

Teedra is lovely, and very very small.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

Oh shit, did you ask her if she'll marry me?

― BARMS, Friday, 3 June 2005 13:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

she is very pretty. she looks lovely.

― ppp, Friday, 3 June 2005 13:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

PPP, listen to the section from "You Better Tell Her" through to "Last Day" again. I find the charge of weak songs quite surprising, esp. as if anything I'd probably consider "Be Your Girl" to be one of the weaker tracks on that score (relatively - this was my equal fave album from last year so all such distinctions are pretty pedantic).

Lex is OTM about the title track (occupies the same place in my heart), but yeah, I adore "Outta My Head" as well, and I like the way that on that portion of the album every song sounds like a massive switch-up after the previous one.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

I didn't I'm afraid Barima. We talked about the impossibility of finding decent jewellery in Camden (she was confused about this before I informed her that Camden is the hellhole of London), the last fight she got in, and she gave me a sneak preview of this song she's writing called 'The Whole World Is A Ghetto'. She's really sweet and very thoughtful, and she wore these amazing red-tinted shades throughout.

I kind of need better dictaphone skills, though.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 3 June 2005 13:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

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hahaha, ok, I'll back down from the Katy B bashing. I shouldn't try to troll too hard about an artist I clearly don't understand (and probably wasn't meant to understand) anyway.

― Evan R, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

miguel is amazing tho. please leave the playing yourselves to evan.

― TALiB KWELi SODMG (The Reverend), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

girl u know i love miguel, doesnt change the fact that what evan said about him was snoopgif-worthy

― r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, I would hate to see my precious miguel/grimes get caught in the crossfire because of my own impudence... snoop.gif me, but let the music go free

― Evan R, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

That Teairra Marí album is really nice; definitely going to order one of the $0.24 used copies of it from Amazon

― Evan R, Thursday, 5 April 2012 05:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

all im listening is teedra is the last days, she's so important in my life

― moullet, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

― r|t|c, Friday, 20 April 2012 11:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

that voice. she could sing me titchyschneider posts and i'd be in heaven

― r|t|c, Friday, 20 April 2012 11:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

IRL lols.

― Tim F, Friday, 20 April 2012 11:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

hahaha

― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Friday, 20 April 2012 16:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

but could she sing you dog latin posts

― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Friday, 20 April 2012 16:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

1) Teedra UK live dates in September!
2) Teedra and Katy B love-in on Twitter! <3 <3 <3 <3

― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 09:40 (11 months ago) Permalink

10 months pass...

in case you forgot Siik was the man

― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Monday, 8 April 2013 04:02 (1 month ago) Permalink

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