I do not buy that for one second. Or even a quarter of a second.
Your story has become tiresome. Not to mention predictable.
― awag, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
1: It's true - I found these boards last week. How many times do I need to say it? What kind of a closed forum is this?
2: The story is tiresome because you lot keep necessitating its repetition. Strange that it is so hard to accept.
3: The predicatability I can do nothing about.
― Roger Fascist, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Now I finally understand where all this anti-Rockist sentiment comes from, Mr. Ewing. You're actually incapable of loving Der Rock Und Roll, and YOU'RE JEALOUS OF THE REST OF US!! :)
When you come visit NYC and/or Philly, I promise to teach you The Ways Of Rock. Maura will help, I'm sure.
― Dave M., Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
I still like that new song but I honestly reckon "the ILM Mafia" ahem and their constant Primal Scream hatred will actually lessen my enjoyment of the new album, if I even buy it. It worked with Spiritualized Let It Come Down to the point where I can't tell if (a) I like it as a response to the dislike (b)I dislike it because of the criticism or (c)I dislike it (for my own reasons) but won't admit that to myself because it would be giving in to the criticism.
― Ronan, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
the reasons for you liking things are kind of superficial/cliched even...rock is a 'marketing' term designed by record companies to sell recs (oh yes, the m- word again). Genre words can give an idea abt instrumentation used but little else, it is very reductive.
the 'rock' word has gone through a lot since then, a lot of things have happened to that. I'd say the doors had a bit of 'psychedelia' in them too, the sound was kind of strange, for a start rock bands have a bass player and the doors didn't. Saying something is 'rock' (in this case anyway) just won't do.
I was kind of pissed off abt your comments on rock vs. rap thread as well...
― Julio Desouza, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
But the fact is that your routine, as it were, seems to be dredging up old threads about classic bands, spouting some ill-considered and dare I say juvenile rhetoric about how they are awesome, and working down from there. Maybe you should sit back for a few days and read some old threads, as well as archived FT articles to get a handle on the general tone of the discussion before you post another rant. We do tend to get fairly agressive with each other on these boards, but watching you and Ronan go at it has put me off almost as much as the grand old days of Doompatrol (use the search engine if you really want to know).
The only thing I think might count as 'trolling' is calling yourself "Roger Fascist".
― o. nate, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Julio: can I state that to say my reasons for liking things are "kind of superficial/cliched even" is horrendous claptrap. My reasons are fundamental (to me, though clearky not to you). About that rock verses rap thread... yeah, sorry about that. I thought it was quite funny though. As for the marketing tripe, you are assuming too much. Rock and Roll is not just a musical style to me, it is an ethos. Yet you are right - continued use of the word in generic terms is reductive. I think the soul comments are related to how an individual views music on a fundamental level. That's a long story though...
Dave: Thank you for the guidance. I have been happily adding to old threads, sure, because I take an (dis)interest in these things. However I think my humour seems to have drifted way out to the leftfield on these boards and my failure to appreciate how fundamentally seriously the regulars seem to take posts here has been very much to my detriment. Ah, it's my way to be dismissive but by the same token, I love a fight. I had a look at the other threads and forums but the classics or duds is to me the most interesting - it seems to arouse such distaste in people.
Ronan: You seem to have a very big problem with me old chap. Still, the feeling is reciprocal so it's alright - I think you don't know what you're talking about too. You are too keen to wade in with the personal attacks though, you should spend less time focussing on what you think I am and more on dealing with what I am actually saying.
I also don't have a problem with revisiting classic old threads on a regular basis - it sure beats scrabbling around for the last few C/Ds or all that POO nonsense.
Wasn't Roger Fascist a Viz character, or is that irrelevant?
― Zanny G, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
well, why don't you expand on it because i'd like to know. I want to get to what people's reasoning here.
''As for the marketing tripe, you are assuming too much''
It's a genre name that doesn't tell us abt the diversity within that...what's so wrong about this?
''About that rock verses rap thread... yeah, sorry about that. I thought it was quite funny though.''
I thought it was kind of misinformed and kinda 'funny'.
― Jeff W, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Thursday, 15 May 2003 00:37 (twenty years ago) link
― chaki (chaki), Thursday, 15 May 2003 00:54 (twenty years ago) link
I'm not even going to bother to explain why, because I'm feeling lazy and there's no point; today's doofus hipsters have already made their Jim hatred well known.
Agree 100% with John B. as to which records are best. Funny the way their career arced like that.
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 15 May 2003 02:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 15 May 2003 02:53 (twenty years ago) link
"And then...she tried the second bowl...and it was too cold...and then...she tried...the THIRD bowl...and then...she ate it all UPPPPPPPPPGGHHHH!!!!"
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 15 May 2003 02:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 15 May 2003 08:28 (twenty years ago) link
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 15 May 2003 10:26 (twenty years ago) link
hey diamond check out the other dors threads for more jim hataz type mentalism!
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 15 May 2003 10:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex K (Alex K), Thursday, 15 May 2003 11:42 (twenty years ago) link
But that doesn't make it any less true."
Tom is reading my mind here.
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 15 May 2003 11:45 (twenty years ago) link
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― M. Agony Von Bontee (M. Agony Von Bontee), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link
LA Woman is probably their best, either that or the debut.
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 01:06 (seventeen years ago) link
No way, you always get to choose sides with this. Much like fart jokes, you never outgrow it.
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:11 (seventeen years ago) link
Exactly.
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:38 (seventeen years ago) link
I do like "Touch Me" but are there any actual Doors on it apart from Jimbo?
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Orgy of Pragmatism (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link
top 5 musical frog imo
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 18:40 (two years ago) link
Crazy doesn't get a look in.
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 18:44 (two years ago) link
Frog Chorus in the wings, croaking in vain.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 18:47 (two years ago) link
mashup idea:
"(Peace) Froggy Went A-Courtin'"
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 18:49 (two years ago) link
LMAO
I like "Peace Frog" too. Even though there's only a few cuts from Morrison Hotel that I kept in my library ("Peace Frog" being one), it's actually an okay album. Not a great one, but mostly listenable.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 20:50 (two years ago) link
Love Indian Summer and The Spy off Morrison Hotel.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 20:52 (two years ago) link
I Can't See Your Face In My Mind
― J. Sam, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 21:42 (two years ago) link
“The Soft Parade” is the first disco song ever, specifically the “Peppermint miniskirts” bit. Loop that over and over again and you’ll be disco-dancing fool. CHANGE MY MIND.
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 9 December 2021 18:28 (two years ago) link
my issues with this band are widely documented on ILM, but i'm really enjoying listening to Weird Scenes Inside the Gold Mine, which i guess was a comp intended to speak to their jammier/proto-proggier side or something? like it has some of their big hits, but not their earlier, poppier hits besides, significantly, "Break On Through." and a lot more extended droney, arguably monotonous jams. so i think it paints a picture of the band that i can be on the same wavelength of. although lugubrious in places, and stops dead in its tracks for "You Need Meat" imho, it works better than their Greatest Hits that i dug out of my parents' collection as a teenager, which had those other songs like "Light My Fire" and "Love Me Two Times" and "People Are Strange." (i don't dislike them because they're poppier, to be clear, i've just never found them very exciting as 60s pop-rock songs!) "Hello I Love You" i think i like in my head, but it's really "Crush With Eyeliner" my brain is conjuring, mostly.
really was tempted to do another Honkin' on Bobo display name, with "Mister Mojo Risin'" ...but that's gotten so firmly attached to "Mister JoJo Rabbit" after seeing the posters for that movie at the subway entrance for six months.
― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Monday, 10 January 2022 02:13 (two years ago) link
"Weird Scenes" is a great comp and yeah it was specifically meant to highlight their more out/weirder stuff vs the stuff that was on "13".
You Need Meat is insanely bad, I'm pretty sure the only person who thought Ray should sing a song was Ray
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 10 January 2022 15:34 (two years ago) link
"Who Scared You" is a great b-side on that record, and would have been better than a lot of the songs that made it onto Soft Parade.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 03:01 (two years ago) link
oh wow this comp hits the spot
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 January 2022 04:04 (two years ago) link
I started wondering last night: what songs from the original six Doors albums have never been extracted for a compilation? By my count, there are only eight:
I Looked At YouMy Wild LoveYes The River KnowsThe Soft ParadeIndian SummerBeen Down So LongL'AmericaCrawling King Snake
Two or three good ones!
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 16:01 (two years ago) link