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Michael, the main answer is laziness and disorganisation, though also because my guitar amp makes it sound nicer than it sounds either dry or through my slightly crappy cheap fx unit. (Subtle, warm overdrive, reverb, and EQ; my fx pedal isn't that great for subtle warmth.)

Emil.y: so what're your other bands? Plug away, I'd be interested to hear... (You have a theremin! Nice. *envy*)

I don't know much about fx pedals, I have one multi-fx guitar pedal which is all right but not stunning and one old and knackered single- effect stompbox bought very cheap due to its knackeredness, so I don't know. FX pedals generally seem to cost 50-100 quid new and 20- 50 quid used (depending on condition) for single guitar effects and 70-300 new for multi-fx, I've no idea what's best even for guitar, let alone theremin, but there's a really good section on harmony- central.com with user reviews of pretty much every fx unit ever where they say what they think of the sound, whether it's built well and whether they've had any problems with it, how much it cost them, what kind of music they use it for, etc. I'd think that would be well worth a look, though it won't be much good unless you have a few specific brands/models you want to read up on. Here's the Effects front page, the bit I was talking about is the Effects Database, but I linked to the main page too because there's some other stuff which might be useful, eg circuit diagrams and links and so on.

I'm really hoping Kate will reply telling us about her Kaoss Pad, because elsewhere she said it was the most spacerock fx unit ever and I'm wondering exactly what's so good and so spacey about it. Kate to thread! Kate to thread!

― Rebecca, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Kaos pads are fun. They just effects processors you use with your fingers like a mouse on a powerbook. Kid 606, Mike Patton never play without em. I use one live as well.

― chaki, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

My lovely Emagic ES1 R having ability to do moog sounds! I R going Beep Beep!

― I R ADSR Envelope!, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I have a Kaoss Pad meself. Very very fun toy. I wish there was a more professional version of it, though. (Not that I could afford one right now, but..)

― Brian MacDonald, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

rebecca - you're contaminating it's synthy loveliness with the Evil of Guitars (via the amp). try looking on Ebay for a better effects unit. one of my friends seems to buy another decent one every month. his bedroom will soon be the best equipped studio in South London before long. alternatively do a search for guitar amp miking techniques - i've forgotten what little i knew. as for the laziness though, surely a mic and a guitar amp is more hassle, both to carry and to record? you have to have silence for a start, or are you recording with a band?

― michael, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

The synth only comes out when there's nobody else around to hear it or make noise near it, and no bands would have me! Er, not that I've asked or anything, but all the Types Who Might Be In Bands glower at me when I go to gigs, and I have no talent/skill/whatever so I would not be an asset to any band. I have a book which tells me about miking techniques for various instruments but it didn't help so I should indeed search the web and see if the book's wrong or if I'm just doing something else wrong. Oh, and the amp is less hassle but it would be complicated and tediously pointless to go into the various reasons why, all of which I could overcome if I stopped being lazy and spent half an hour rearranging stuff.

Any recommendations for effects units which won't contaminate anything with the, er, Evil of Guitars? I think I like the evil of guitars, mind you, but I like recommendations too. Kaoss Pads? Zoom RFXes? I drooled over the Zoom rackmount effects in the shop ages ago at someone else's recommendation and ever since that whenever I go in there one of the staff greets me and asks how my nonexistent recording is going and so on. Eek! It worries me when people who see hundreds of customers every day can remember the minutiae of my gear list and favourite music when they haven't seen me for months and I can't remember which assistant they are even though there are only 5 staff there.

Is there a webpage anywhere listing the Kaoss pad's different functions and what parameters are along which axis? Would quite like to know. But as Brian's post reminds me I have no money, will very soon have a great deal less than no money, and have more or less decided that due to a severe lack of talent (ever) and inspiration (recently; well, over the past two years, which is long enough to make me think it may never return) I should just give up on the whole thing anyway.

― rebecca, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

i think Kaoss pad is more aimed at adding real time 'effects' for deejays or live performers, rather than being used as an 'effects unit' (i.e. subtle, sound improving processing like reverb). i've had a quick play on one, and it's fun but not necessarily the best choice for a synth, i wouldn't have thought. after all, the synth is already making the weird sound effects.

as for the Evil of Guitars, i am halfway between a soul boy and an Easy ListenXor (or something) and am therefore anti-Rock, anti-Punk AND anti-Indie bands

― michael, Tuesday, 11 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

But I don't want subtle, I want something that will disguise the fact that I can't play, can't write songs, and have no ideas in a big wall of neat whooshy noises. Yes, this is where I'm going wrong. Yes, this is why I've decided I should probably give up. Oh well.

― Rebecca, Tuesday, 11 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

why not buy a 4 track or similar? plug the synth in directly and record. a few tracks of it down, and it should sound great.

― michael, Tuesday, 11 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Rebecca: Well, most of the other bands haven't come out of their bedrooms yet, but my 60s garage group (The Standing On Tables) are hoping to get their arses in gear and go on the road reasonably soon. Likely won't happen as our line-up is undergoing a couple of problems, but we actually have enough songs to do it now. The other major one is an as yet untitled electronica duo (at the moment, anyway) with blokey of John Sims/Discordia.

Don't give up on yr own stuff, you sound like you know a lot more about doing it than I do. Ask steve.n, he knows I can't play to save my life.

My baby!

― emil.y, Tuesday, 11 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

see this maybe no one wanted to know weh ni posted it *sniff*.....story of my life.

― ambrose, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

that makes no sense, what the hell are you doing up at this hour anyway.

― Ed, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Note for our younger readers: throughout the 1970s, this is exactly what the Melody Maker read like.

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

6 years pass...

I love what this guy Benge has done with a 1975 Polymoog.

It's part of an album he's made tracing the history of synthesisers from 1968 to 1988. One track made with each of the 20 synths. It was meant to come out last year. Shame it didn't, as now that track sounds its in the trail of Portishead's The Rip.

Beautiful liner notes too

― Alba, Monday, 23 June 2008 22:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh, I didn't realise this was an ILE thread. Still.

― Alba, Monday, 23 June 2008 22:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

neat! i have a roland sh2000 - one of the synths in the tracks on his myspace there! i run it through a space echo, which is gooood

liner notes have great images/pictures wow

only moog i have used is a moog prodigy that is slightly off-kilter but rad anyway. it is not mine but at the jam space and belongs to a friend and so i can use it :D it is in fact the first synth i ever played! it was the synth that instigated the formation of our band whoa

― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 01:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

has alba been listening to RDB again? (he played, i think, the same track on his radio show, this past weekend, after being given a copy at Sonar)

― koogs, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 08:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

You found me out.

― Alba, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 21:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

Been fiddling with one of these (whole set minus the speakers): http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/sys100.shtml

Uni has a couple of them. Only way I'm going to get my hands on a an analogue synth - shit's been going for mad prices on eBay...

― S-, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 03:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

now i has moog

― 12plsrU (electricsound), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 23:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Now this is a Google doodle

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:21 (11 months ago) Permalink

ah yeah. look at me I'm a musician!

― kid steel (cajunsunday), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:51 (11 months ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

"Clearing out my garage loft yesterday, cut away some ivy creepers & found this. Original spec MiniMoog." - Gary Numan Official

― how's life, Monday, 17 September 2012 15:19 (8 months ago) Permalink

I sold my Korg Mono/Poly last year.
I gave my Yamaha SY-1 to a friend. It was originally given to me by a friend, so the circle is complete.

― Trip Maker, Monday, 17 September 2012 15:26 (8 months ago) Permalink

o_O
xp

― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 17 September 2012 15:27 (8 months ago) Permalink

we plant the moog, nature grows the moog...

― upset and upsetting (electricsound), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 00:48 (8 months ago) Permalink

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