I am beginning to become scared that Romney/Ryan will win. Can smart people please post here and say reassuring things to convince me that he won't?

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jefferson!

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

dukakis was waaay out in front early before people got to know him

yes. The Elizabeth Drew book is good. Dukakis got less respect in the party as people realized what a donkey he was.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

the Dana Carvey/Jon Lovitz debate skits as Bush/Dukakis were great

http://www.hulu.com/watch/4117

cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

teddy roosevelt

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

tsongas was 92, kick started deficit hawk mania that led to perot getting in the race, didn't want to be santa claus. beyond that wasn't a huge factor, winning new hampshire was a shock but clinton's 'comeback' was as much the real story. i can remember a day or two after the nh primary letterman had tsongas on - but not to actually sit down and speak, he just had tsongas come in thru the side door, cracked a joke at his expense, and then had tsongas leave. that's how seriously tsongas was taken in 92. clinton's real comp was bob kerrey w/ jerry brown in the spoiler role. weak field generally, heavy hitters scared off by bush approval ratings at end of gulf war, http://snltranscripts.jt.org/91/91edebate.phtml . 88 was considered stronger field - no cuomo or bradley or nunn or kennedy but gephardt, gore, babbitt, jackson, a hobbled gary hart, joe biden briefly, james traficant hilariously. dukakis had strongest campaign team, ran smartest campaign (eg were responsible for alerting press to biden plagiarism), had very successful record as mass gov. fwiw gop field was also strong that year - beyond bush you also had dole and kemp and pat robertson for better or worse. richard ben cramer's book on 88 campaign is highly recommended.

balls, Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

Truman, TR don't count for finishing dead guy's term. Truman could've run for his own second term though.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

could've run and would've lost. vp as obv inheritor of party nod is a very recent phenom anyway right? seems like post-war emergance at the very least.

balls, Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it seems strange to me, that this has sprung up as conventional wisdom that the VP has "dibs" on the Presidency but it's never really panned out very well

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

Bush only winning one since Van Buren

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

truman toward the end was one of the most hated pres's ever -- bush just barely beat him in his last year or so.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

yeah ALOT republicans i know used the 'history will vindicate bush, like it did truman' talk immediately after he left office, nevermind they oppose the things truman did that 'vindicated' him or that the other half of the time they could bear to mention bush they say the reason bush was a failure was cuz he was actually a liberal.

balls, Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

haha yeah the 'bush isn't REALLY a conservative' thing was one of the weirder GOP-think developments of the last decade.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

hart was good but then he had a lil problem

Dukakis also had a "lil problem": he was 5'8".

Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Thursday, 20 September 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSLW3BG3TgE

balls, Thursday, 20 September 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

Truman's reputation started to recover in the next ten years. Meanwhile a majority of American still think Bush remains a joke.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

1988 was the year I started watching SNL.

I remember this:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xletq9_saturday-night-live-dukakis-after-dark_fun

http://snl.jt.org/caps/episode_sketches/1988-11-05-8.jpg

Matthew Modine ... Lloyd Bentsen
Dana Carvey ... Jimmy Carter
Nora Dunn ... Joan Baez
Cheryl Hardwick ... pianist
Phil Hartman ... Ted Kennedy
Jan Hooks ... Kitty Dukakis
Victoria Jackson ... Donna Rice
Jon Lovitz ... Michael Dukakis
Kevin Nealon ... LeRoy Neiman

Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

not really what that article says man

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 24 September 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

ok

Mordy, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

obama now at 81.9% on 538 - his highest point so far this election iirc? (previous high mark: 80.7% from convention bounce)

Mordy, Thursday, 27 September 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link

Sept. 26: Could 2012 Be Like 2008?
By NATE SILVER
There’s no point in putting it gently: Mitt Romney had one of his worst polling days of the year on Wednesday.

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

what do you have to add to NYTimes URLs to read articles for free again?

set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

delete evthg after "html"

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

or just click on an inbound link http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/27/sept-26-could-2012-be-like-2008

lag∞n, Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

oh god, i just now finally watched the joe scarborough "sweet jesus" thing, that is pretty fucking satisfying on some irrational and childish level, for me personally

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link

From Silver's blog post:

The “now-cast” estimates that Mr. Obama would have a 97.8 percent chance of winning an election held today. Further, it pegs his advantage at five and a half percentage points in the national popular vote.

lol @ Romney

set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

oh god, i just now finally watched the joe scarborough "sweet jesus" thing, that is pretty fucking satisfying on some irrational and childish level, for me personally

pls elaborate!

Trad., Arrrgh (stevie), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

what do you have to add to NYTimes URLs to read articles for free again?

― set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:15 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

add the javascript at this URL http://pastebin.com/QNyY4bdL as a bookmarklet, go to nytimes.com, click the bookmarklet. resets your article count by deleting all your nyt cookies.

caek, Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

how do you add the javascript as a bookmarklet?

Mordy, Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

create a bookmark and paste the Javascript as the destination

set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

Or drag the link onto yr bookmark bar.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

Sorry drag the script

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

will you guys be sad when the NYT is bankrupt

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

They released some statement about how they're getting more digital money/subscriptions than ever so no.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

xp I actually just use a subscription (not my own, but whatever.)

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

I'm a little concerned about this potential libyagate thing, some hay to be made there possibly?

space dokken (Edward III), Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

This was on tumblr with the caption "GOD YOU RUIN EVERYTHING"

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maihp4eKsl1qz80pso1_400.gif

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

Wait is that sped up? What the hell is he doing?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

JENGA DUDE

farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

five foot jenga my friend

― lag∞n, Wednesday, June 6, 2012 8:01 PM (3 months ago)

mookieproof, Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

it was kind of charming to see romney jr. prank call dad with one of those arnold schwarzenegger sound boards.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

lol youtube comment on the video: "This kind of symbolizes how he would run the country. He takes from the middle and adds to the top but when the top gets too heavy and there isn’t enough of the middle left to support the top, the entire thing collapses."

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

I KNOW what Jenga is, thank you very much. You'll be saying I don't know what clocks are next. I meant what the hell was his little dance.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

Clocks are big; machines are heavy.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

xxxpost

Mr. Roboto, looking for the battery compartment.

Old Lunch, Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link


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