dukakis was waaay out in front early before people got to know him
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
is there anyone who went straight from VP to two-term president?
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
adams
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
^super relevant
dukakis was waaay out in front early before
http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0309/images/life/dukakis.jpg
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:28 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
uh nm
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
Harry Truman, right?
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, I guess he was only elected (as prez) once.
jefferson!
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
yes. The Elizabeth Drew book is good. Dukakis got less respect in the party as people realized what a donkey he was.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
the Dana Carvey/Jon Lovitz debate skits as Bush/Dukakis were great
http://www.hulu.com/watch/4117
― cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
teddy roosevelt
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
tsongas was 92, kick started deficit hawk mania that led to perot getting in the race, didn't want to be santa claus. beyond that wasn't a huge factor, winning new hampshire was a shock but clinton's 'comeback' was as much the real story. i can remember a day or two after the nh primary letterman had tsongas on - but not to actually sit down and speak, he just had tsongas come in thru the side door, cracked a joke at his expense, and then had tsongas leave. that's how seriously tsongas was taken in 92. clinton's real comp was bob kerrey w/ jerry brown in the spoiler role. weak field generally, heavy hitters scared off by bush approval ratings at end of gulf war, http://snltranscripts.jt.org/91/91edebate.phtml . 88 was considered stronger field - no cuomo or bradley or nunn or kennedy but gephardt, gore, babbitt, jackson, a hobbled gary hart, joe biden briefly, james traficant hilariously. dukakis had strongest campaign team, ran smartest campaign (eg were responsible for alerting press to biden plagiarism), had very successful record as mass gov. fwiw gop field was also strong that year - beyond bush you also had dole and kemp and pat robertson for better or worse. richard ben cramer's book on 88 campaign is highly recommended.
― balls, Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
Truman, TR don't count for finishing dead guy's term. Truman could've run for his own second term though.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
could've run and would've lost. vp as obv inheritor of party nod is a very recent phenom anyway right? seems like post-war emergance at the very least.
― balls, Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it seems strange to me, that this has sprung up as conventional wisdom that the VP has "dibs" on the Presidency but it's never really panned out very well
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
Bush only winning one since Van Buren
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
truman toward the end was one of the most hated pres's ever -- bush just barely beat him in his last year or so.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
yeah ALOT republicans i know used the 'history will vindicate bush, like it did truman' talk immediately after he left office, nevermind they oppose the things truman did that 'vindicated' him or that the other half of the time they could bear to mention bush they say the reason bush was a failure was cuz he was actually a liberal.
― balls, Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
haha yeah the 'bush isn't REALLY a conservative' thing was one of the weirder GOP-think developments of the last decade.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
hart was good but then he had a lil problem
Dukakis also had a "lil problem": he was 5'8".
― Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Thursday, 20 September 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSLW3BG3TgE
― balls, Thursday, 20 September 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
Truman's reputation started to recover in the next ten years. Meanwhile a majority of American still think Bush remains a joke.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
1988 was the year I started watching SNL.
I remember this:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xletq9_saturday-night-live-dukakis-after-dark_fun
http://snl.jt.org/caps/episode_sketches/1988-11-05-8.jpg
Matthew Modine ... Lloyd BentsenDana Carvey ... Jimmy CarterNora Dunn ... Joan BaezCheryl Hardwick ... pianistPhil Hartman ... Ted KennedyJan Hooks ... Kitty DukakisVictoria Jackson ... Donna RiceJon Lovitz ... Michael DukakisKevin Nealon ... LeRoy Neiman
― Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/24/the-statistical-state-of-the-presidential-race/
game over man
― Mordy, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
not really what that article says man
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 24 September 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
ok
― Mordy, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
obama now at 81.9% on 538 - his highest point so far this election iirc? (previous high mark: 80.7% from convention bounce)
― Mordy, Thursday, 27 September 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link
Sept. 26: Could 2012 Be Like 2008?By NATE SILVERThere’s no point in putting it gently: Mitt Romney had one of his worst polling days of the year on Wednesday.
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link
what do you have to add to NYTimes URLs to read articles for free again?
― set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link
delete evthg after "html"
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
or just click on an inbound link http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/27/sept-26-could-2012-be-like-2008
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
oh god, i just now finally watched the joe scarborough "sweet jesus" thing, that is pretty fucking satisfying on some irrational and childish level, for me personally
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link
From Silver's blog post:
The “now-cast” estimates that Mr. Obama would have a 97.8 percent chance of winning an election held today. Further, it pegs his advantage at five and a half percentage points in the national popular vote.
lol @ Romney
― set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link
oh god, i just now finally watched the joe scarborough "sweet jesus" thing, that is pretty fucking satisfying on some irrational and childish level, for me personallypls elaborate!
― Trad., Arrrgh (stevie), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/26/joe-scarborough-romney-ryan-sweet-jesus_n_1915975.html?utm_hp_ref=media
― Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
― set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:15 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
add the javascript at this URL http://pastebin.com/QNyY4bdL as a bookmarklet, go to nytimes.com, click the bookmarklet. resets your article count by deleting all your nyt cookies.
― caek, Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
how do you add the javascript as a bookmarklet?
― Mordy, Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
create a bookmark and paste the Javascript as the destination
― set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
Or drag the link onto yr bookmark bar.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry drag the script
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
will you guys be sad when the NYT is bankrupt
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
They released some statement about how they're getting more digital money/subscriptions than ever so no.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
xp I actually just use a subscription (not my own, but whatever.)
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
I'm a little concerned about this potential libyagate thing, some hay to be made there possibly?
― space dokken (Edward III), Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/from-video-to-terrorist-attack-a-definitive-timeline-of-administration-statements-on-the-libya-attack/2012/09/26/86105782-0826-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_blog.html
― space dokken (Edward III), Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
This was on tumblr with the caption "GOD YOU RUIN EVERYTHING"
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maihp4eKsl1qz80pso1_400.gif
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
Wait is that sped up? What the hell is he doing?
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
JENGA DUDE
― farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
five foot jenga my friend
― lag∞n, Wednesday, June 6, 2012 8:01 PM (3 months ago)
― mookieproof, Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link