oh man I love me some Cookie, esp Nan Goldin's photos of her
― gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 03:12 (8 months ago) Permalink
Only have seen Flamingos and the 5 from the 80s-90s (and I guess some painful minutes of A Dirty Shame). Voting for Polyester over Hairspray.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 03:13 (8 months ago) Permalink
tbh i'd be perfectly fine with him just writing books for the remainder of his life
I would be happy to see all working film critics replaced by just him.
― Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 03:24 (8 months ago) Permalink
ditto
― balls, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 03:27 (8 months ago) Permalink
stan vote for cry-baby
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 05:20 (8 months ago) Permalink
I think I'll watch them all in order now. I mean not this very minute but now generally and as a result of this thread.
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:11 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
watching them in random order would probably be more fun
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 05:40 (8 months ago) Permalink
serial mom
― Hungry4Ass, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 05:47 (8 months ago) Permalink
Probably Cry-Baby b/c I loved the music so much and thought Amy Locane looked perfect
― Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 05:58 (8 months ago) Permalink
If this was post pink flamingos my vote would be serial mom with no reservations.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 06:03 (8 months ago) Permalink
Polyester was my intro to the world of John Waters and i still think it stands up, also the Baltimore Foot Stomper makes me lol a lot
― syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 06:16 (8 months ago) Permalink
have always preferred FT to PF
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 06:19 (8 months ago) Permalink
The legacy of Hairspray is kind of a bummer, but that movie is really awesome. The production design is amazing.
― Walter Galt, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 08:38 (8 months ago) Permalink
Yes. And the bit where they leave the 'studio' and go downtown, and suddenly it looks like they went to somewhere real.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 09:18 (8 months ago) Permalink
Desperate Living is so incredible, but the bleakness is so overwhelming
super-fond of Cecil B.
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 13:13 (8 months ago) Permalink
Voted for "auto in-DUS-try".
― stURGEON & musKEY (how's life), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 13:23 (8 months ago) Permalink
― Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 13:40 (8 months ago) Permalink
An Oscar clip if I've ever seen one.
Desperate Living because:
Most of the dialogue consists of screamingMink Stole is the star of the showIt is his most disgusting film
― Moodles, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 13:55 (8 months ago) Permalink
"I don't want no white man looking at my Tampax!!"
― Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 14:03 (8 months ago) Permalink
I'm going with Desperate Living just ahead of Female Trouble-I think DL is funnier and more well sustained. And I would put them both well ahead of Pink Flamingos.
― MrDasher, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 14:07 (8 months ago) Permalink
― Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:03 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^^^^
― gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 14:17 (8 months ago) Permalink
u guys sure like your sassy 600-pound mamas
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 14:29 (8 months ago) Permalink
desperate living although female trouble is a close second, thouhg I will say I still would prefer a neuter version of each film
― Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 14:35 (8 months ago) Permalink
" Uh OH , here come the honkies already!" w/ Turkey Joe =- so many classic lines
― Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 14:37 (8 months ago) Permalink
"Desperate living" is the only film of his I haven't seen(and "Mondo trasho")
― E.I.E.I. (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 14:39 (8 months ago) Permalink
So ... A Dirty Shame then?
― Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 14:42 (8 months ago) Permalink
xp oh man you are in for a treat
"treat"
― gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 14:43 (8 months ago) Permalink
omg the Gator leaves for Detroit scene
Desperate Living is like the darkest funniest thing ever
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 15:03 (8 months ago) Permalink
Was torn among Mondo Trasho, Desperate Living and Female Trouble; Mondo wins because of Mink Stole's topless dance and this, the greatest scene in all cinema:
― Three Word Username, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 15:19 (8 months ago) Permalink
Cry-Baby is one of my favorite movies. So so many things to love. Rikki Lake, for one thing. "He likes his women bad, not cheap." And the way he escapes from prison, by way of the easily removed grate in the floor of his cell. It's so funny and so campy and so meta and so absurd. And also Iggy Pop.
― flavor blasted (kenan), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 15:25 (8 months ago) Permalink
re: CryBaby, my little girl riding on a duck from Enchanted Forest this weekend
(@0:37)
― stURGEON & musKEY (how's life), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 15:30 (8 months ago) Permalink
I don't know, I'm trippin.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 15:40 (8 months ago) Permalink
Definitely prefer Cry-Baby to Hairspray, among the John Waters movies most likely to be stocked at Wal-Mart.
― Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 15:41 (8 months ago) Permalink
wow, just realized a lot of childhood photos of me are from visits to the Enchanted Forest
― Sadly, 99.99 percent of sheeple will never wake up (I DIED), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 15:46 (8 months ago) Permalink
Divine's performance in Female Trouble makes me anxious.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 15:57 (8 months ago) Permalink
Pink Flamingos would not be obvious answer for me at all. Of the early, grossout stuff (which I honestly don't have the inclination to revisit anymore) I would rank Female Trouble > Desperate Living > Flamingos. I can barely remember Multiple Maniacs, but Mortville set and overall production design of Female Trouble are seared in my brain forever.
Of the more mainstream films, Hairspray and Cry Baby are a deadlocked tie for me; love them both, more than Polyester. And nothing from Serial Mom on really clicked for me.
― The specifics are these, which is those principles I described (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 16:23 (8 months ago) Permalink
I wish I could find video or images, but the first time you see the rickety slum village of Mortville, the scene is amazingly similar (in my memory) to the Joads' arrival in a migrant worker camp in The Grapes of Wrath. I'm sure that was only my reading, though.
― The specifics are these, which is those principles I described (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 16:58 (8 months ago) Permalink
I really really love John Waters but Hairspray does seem like a pinnacle to me, the midway point between the guerilla gross-out low budget films and his latter more restrained efforts. probably his best ever cast too.
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 17:04 (8 months ago) Permalink
Hairspray and Cry-Baby are a hell of a lot more restrained than Serial Mom
― gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 17:29 (8 months ago) Permalink
But they're both very funny, it should be noted.
― flavor blasted (kenan), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 17:34 (8 months ago) Permalink
Anyone know of any plans to put these films out on blu-ray?
― Moodles, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 17:49 (8 months ago) Permalink
Not sure many of them "need" 1080p, tbh.
― Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 18:13 (8 months ago) Permalink
I watched "Back to the Future" on Blu-Ray last night, and it only made very clear how bad the makeup was. (Not that I think this is a make-or-break thing with a John Waters movie.)
― flavor blasted (kenan), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 18:17 (8 months ago) Permalink
The makeup was probably JUST FINE for 1985 theatrical exhibition and analog TV. Studio makeup was not meant to undergo Blu-Ray scrutiny, which is why I don't particularly want to watch BR discs if the film is from the pre-digital era.
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 18:37 (8 months ago) Permalink
Yah, but isn't celluloid an infinitesimal amount higher resolution than Blu-ray?
― Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 18:38 (8 months ago) Permalink
I mean, I watched Labyrinth on the big-screen again a few weeks back, and that paper-mache was way more obvious there than on DVD.
― Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 18:39 (8 months ago) Permalink
unfortunately the inherent flaws of pre-digital films are far less severe on my TV than the flaws of cheaply made DVDs
― Moodles, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 18:43 (8 months ago) Permalink
well, why are people only seeing Lemmon's makeup and eyeliner in The Apartment on BR?
― kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 18:50 (8 months ago) Permalink
Because they're watching Some Like It Hot by accident.
― Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 18:52 (8 months ago) Permalink
I'm sure you'll see a lot of stuff you weren't originally supposed to see like makeup, but I prefer that over seeing weird digital artifacts that were not in the original source at all
― Moodles, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 18:58 (8 months ago) Permalink
My compliment was inept either way, but I got some very definite feedback at the time about telling a girl she looked like Ricki Lake and which version of Ricki Lake she presumed me to mean. The makeouts diminished significantly.
― stURGEON & musKEY (how's life), Friday, 21 September 2012 12:01 (8 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, I'm fairly sure going "but, uh, fat Ricki is way cooler" would not really help anybody's cause. Oh well.
― emil.y, Friday, 21 September 2012 12:04 (8 months ago) Permalink
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Saturday, 22 September 2012 00:01 (8 months ago) Permalink
this guy is awesome but i wish i liked his movies more.― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:08 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:08 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark
^^^ this. i'd rather re-read his interview in butt magazine that watch these films. If serial mom is one of his best i'd loathe to see one of the lesser ones. that film is completely inept and unfunny.
― jed_, Saturday, 22 September 2012 00:13 (8 months ago) Permalink
tbh i would attend a JW-curated fashion show or photography exhibit over watching his films any day of the week, tho I still like him OK as a director.
― Broney, Pt. 1 (Pillbox), Saturday, 22 September 2012 01:03 (8 months ago) Permalink
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Sunday, 23 September 2012 00:01 (8 months ago) Permalink
good turnout!
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 23 September 2012 00:03 (8 months ago) Permalink
Surprised Cry-Baby had a pretty weak showing. Also, my late-period reclamation film is Cecil B. Demented, which nobody seemed to rep for as hard as Serial Mom, which I think is good, but not as good as CBD.
― emil.y, Sunday, 23 September 2012 00:39 (8 months ago) Permalink
i love cecil b demented and got a signed copy for my birthday (after my parents ran into him @ borders)
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Sunday, 23 September 2012 01:27 (8 months ago) Permalink
Will rep for basically every single one of his films of his except Hairspray (doesn't need my help) and A Dirty Shame (doesn't deserve it).
― Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Sunday, 23 September 2012 04:50 (8 months ago) Permalink
Don't watch this again if you haven't seen multiple maniacs because seeing this in context as the climactic scene is what makes it the best of all of his many great films who wants to die for art
― Milton Parker, Sunday, 23 September 2012 05:08 (8 months ago) Permalink
And by again I mean AGAIN
― Milton Parker, Sunday, 23 September 2012 05:11 (8 months ago) Permalink
Ha, I liked "A dirty shame", it was so tasteless and stupid and amazing. The closing scene when the trees start turning into genitals and the dancers on the street spell out "SEX" felt charming in this old-school version of risqué.
― whiter than... this? (Ówen P.), Sunday, 23 September 2012 13:04 (8 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, I was quite partial to A Dirty Shame too, though it suffers from the Tracy Ullman on a film screen problem...
― Pete, Sunday, 23 September 2012 15:45 (8 months ago) Permalink