I am beginning to become scared that Romney/Ryan will win. Can smart people please post here and say reassuring things to convince me that he won't?

xp lol

its true bush was a goober, but he had waay more on the ball than perry

Just shows how sad the GOP field was, because Mitt has never truly been "ready for prime time" either, but they went with him because at least he resembles a cardboard cutout of a standard republican presidential candidate

Yeah, I think he won't freak, he'll turn on the locked society smile and break the switch off

Rick Perry did not have ivy league credentials and thus was not in the same league with Dubya, who was a full member of Skull n' Bones.

W too they really groomed him for a long time and he had the A team behind him everything was well planned and thought out

Thing I'm most curious about is vp debate. No idea how this one will play out, much like we didn't know how the last one would, only this seems way different weirdness than last time's

rick just kinda jumped in there like hay whats up *shoots finger guns*

VP debate is going to be totally tepid unless Ryan challenges Biden to a pushup contest or something (btw anyone following the recent Ryan 6-8% bodyfat lie hilariousness? He's great!)

ha yes at 6% body fat yr body starts to consume itself in a desperate bid to stay alive

i woulda thought the vp debate is gonna be the republicans' best bet?, like given that the appeal of ryan is like STRAIGHT TALKIN NO SPENDIN ATTITUDE he just has to appear to chastise biden on account of spending &c. biden can be all "now hold on a second, jackrabbit", though, so who knows how it ends up, i guess w/biden winning vice-presidential reelection as the grandparent we love to hate.

http://taxfoundation.org:81/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/UserFiles/Image/Fiscal%20Facts/20100524-229-nonpayers-mapM.jpg

Perry is merely the product of a base that has learned nothing and will double down on demonstrably wrong-headedness every chance they get. This is representative of the rump of the existing Republican Party and it is telling that Romney can slag off non-payers of tax when the bastions of his numbers are basically the top ten States in not paying income tax.

vp debate

ryan will destroy biden with mountains of facts that later turn out to be total fabrications

at the beginning when ryan goes to shake his hand biden should put him in an affectionate headlock and give him a lil noogie just to set the tone

Wasn't Bruce Lee rumored to only have like 3% bodyfat at one point? Or am I off by a factor of 5 or so

heres all yr ryan body fat debunking infos http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/09/paul_ryan_claims_he_has_6_to_8_percent_body_fat_.html

yeah folks are all over the fact that this "47%" is made up of A LOT of Republicans.

the flip side of that is that the 53% is made up of A LOT of Dems. 52% of ppl making over 200k supported Obama in '08. nearly half of of those earning 50k - 200k did, too. i realize this isn't 2008, but goddam how dumb can these Erik Erickson 53% chumps be??

Next up:

11th - TN
12th - NC
13th - UT
14th - AZ
15th - KY

I think Obama won NC in '08, but every single other one of those States (except Florida? I don't remember) voted solidly for McCain/GOP.

Considering that nerve tissue requires fat to operate, 3% would probably lead to brain damage.

yeah folks are all over the fact that this "47%" is made up of A LOT of Republicans.

the flip side of that is that the 53% is made up of A LOT of Dems. 52% of ppl making over 200k supported Obama in '08. nearly half of of those earning 50k - 200k did, too. i realize this isn't 2008, but goddam how dumb can these Erik Erickson 53% chumps be??

― it's smdh time in America (will), Tuesday, September 18, 2012 2:29 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This (the first point) is being kind of overstated though -- Obama handily carries the vote of the non-income-tax-paying poor in a lot of those red states.

Obama handily carries the vote of the non-income-tax-paying poor in a lot of those red states.

Can you verify this?

The best push-back I've seen was some reader on Sullivan who basically said that Romney didn't mean he wouldn't govern in the name of all Americans but that his election strategy wasn't going to target this 47%. Which still begs the question, why not?

Non-unionized earners with only high school degrees are more likely to vote republican these days, and the south is a hotbed of non-union, god-fearing, low wage earners.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/18/1133341/-47-many-repubs-believe-this-stuff

Obama won 73% of the <$15K vote, 60% of the $15-30K vote etc.

David Corn also posted this "update" to his Atlantic piece:

Update: My colleague Derek Thompson picks up the baton from me and digs deeper into the demographics of the so-called 47 percent. One important note he makes is that it's often the lowest-income people in these red states who are most likely to vote Democratic -- it's just that the rest of the population is conservative enough to carry the states into the Republican column.

In 2008, Obama lost Georgia by 5 percentage points but he won 70% of voters who earned less than $30,000 -- which is precisely the demo most likely to owe no federal income tax. Obama lost Mississippi by 14 percentage points, but picked up 66% of voters who earned less than $30,000. As a general rule, Republicans win among richer voters -- both in the red states and the blue.

Of course, Romney's point remains completely fatuous

Huzzah:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/watch-full-secret-video-private-romney-fundraiser

http://themonkeycage.org/blog/2012/06/18/the-party-of-the-american-working-man-and-woman/

At anything less than 10 percent body fat, says Martin Rooney, a well-known trainer who works with NFL and MMA athletes, “a man with his shirt off is lean and shredded. Veins everywhere and really cut up. This is the model and bodybuilder look. So if he is saying he is 6 percent, he is shredded with a six-pack and should have no reason not to do photo shoots everywhere.”

Bodybuilder language is funny to me.

i'm mainly talking about the olds and the red-staters making 55k/yr who - thanks to EITC, mortgage deductions, etc - don't pay any federal income taxes. i don't have numbers on this, but these two demos describe sooo many ppl around here (MS, TN)

well to get nerdy, nobody making 55k is getting EITC

oops yeah, sub that with child tax credit

Garance Franke-Ruta ‏@thegarance
Romney on MoJo full video: "This president speaks loudly and carries a tiny stick."

Wouldn't be surprised if most of the video was just dick jokes.

Also, the bodyfat and physical feats bragging is is the utmost reinforcing how douchey the guy is; when you feel the need the start involving all the dudebro gym-douche bragging, the highest estimation you could ever possibly pray to reach is "disreputable schmuck".

Man, caterers are going to get shaken down at these events from now on.

Eh, gym bros ALWAYS estimate their BF way lower than it actually is. I don't think of that as a lie (though obviously douchey) - Ryan has probably always been told by his workout buddies/etc. that he's @ 6% brah. Athletes do it to - NFL players claiming 3% BF etc. (Dez Bryant did that), which is just absurdly unrealistic given the demands of their sport.

Whereas Charlie Christ is among the 47%.

I mean Chris Christie. Easy joke.

Oh come on in the context of all of his other physical prowess nonsense I'm not giving dude the benefit of the doubt on any of this.

did i get my memes messed up or did romney just say that americans are 47% body fat

plz plz an interviewer needs to pull some calipers and offer to measure ryans %

wheel out a dunk tank, "hop in"!

"if he floats..."

lol

Whereas Charlie Christ is among the 47%.

I mean Chris Christie. Easy joke.

LOL, Crist is among the 10 percent. Easy mistake.

Chris Christie is among the 47 % body fatters.

Gym bro annoyance just seems like an additional douchebaggery he adds onto everything else.

I mean, I'm a fat drunk, I take this shit personally.

ryan is cut and shredded like a good slaw

http://wearethe47percent.tumblr.com/

kinda feel bad for republicans on the romney campaign who have to defend him at this point, they sound like malfunctioning robots trying to stay on message

obama.. class warfare... dividing our country