2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

"recognition of shelter as a right according to the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights to which the U.S. is a signatory so that no one sleeps on U.S. streets"

wtf, McCain thinks you should sleep on the grass instead, it's softer

Dave Barry ran for president a couple of times too.
If only Colbert could have gotten on the ballot this year.

(that Obama inbox from http://www.theonion.com/content/news/obama_deletes_another_unread

"I usually get excited when I see that I have one unread message," Obama said. "I think that maybe it's something interesting or important, but then I see it's another MoveOn e-mail and my heart just sinks. It's like getting nothing."

Obama has deleted approximately 25 e-mails from MoveOn.org in the past two months. In addition, Obama's junk folder contains nearly 60 messages from various MoveOn employees and members whose e-mail addresses Obama has previously flagged as spam. Perhaps most telling of his recent frustrations, Obama's mail records confirm that, in April 2008, he replied to a MoveOn.org e-mail entitled "10 Things You Need to Know About John McCain" with the message "Shut up.")

speaking of which, have we covered Bob Barr suing to get Barack and John's names off the Texas ballot?

somewhere, yes

morbius, i don't have a link to you saying a thing like that, it's just a general impression you give to EVERYONE ON ILX that you dislike both candidates and don't see either having an advantage over the other. if this is an unfair representation, then you maybe should consider some things that you say more closely? your world-weary "dems and repubs are the same thing" attitude that you've very clearly had all over ilx for as long as you've been here arguing endlessly with the 'nebb is spilling over to your presidential attitudes, perhaps inadvertantly.

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also nader = suggest ban

perhaps inadvertantly we should take that suggest ban and shove it like a uterus

what is it with you and the uterus today

if you're voting for nader or mckinney because of gay rights you might as well write in paul lynde

http://www.lifeinmayberry.com/2003_10_31_BabySuperman01.jpg

Morbius should write-in George Saunders

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/2008/09/22/080922sh_shouts_saunders?currentPage=all

"Except for the considerable symbolic value of supporting the first African American nominee for president, the only reason any member of the left would vote for the Democrats is because they're up against the party of Abu Ghraib, the Iraq War, Pat Robertson, overt abortion bans, overt social control, and disastrous financial deregulation that McCain promises to introduce into health care, dismantling even the employer-based coverage most Americans rely on."

the only thing I will have for lunch today will be a salad, cheeseburger, fries, shake, cookies, and apple pie.

shove it like a uterus

Follow-up single to "Lollipop"?

Shorty wanna shove.

J. Biden
Who's your daddy?

lol @ monster ad too

Richard Cheney Fuck You Fuck You. <--- wins

i lmao'd @ Biden gchat status

Baby don't forget to pick up eggs on your way home from the Middle East

Have a nice election, y'all. I grow fatigued.

Morbius -- please, please, please, may I ban you from this thread? I just think it would be the right thing to do, but I won't unless you say I can.

...and a tasty way to do it

okay, my fave email is the one from 'Mom,' which is just perfect.

help a brother out and let him know if that bigfoot shit is for real

why would barack's dead mom be emailing him

starting to think that email jpg is a 'shop

"the Democratic-led Congress"

if I say this often enough maybe it'll actually make the 49+ GOP votes in the Senate go away

Richard Cheney Fuck You Fuck You. <--- wins

otm

why would barack's dead mom be emailing him

shh - it's 'comedy'

Barack's dead mom is not comedy, she's a helluva stump speech on health care

She was a tireless advocate for the estate tax.

"Comedy" : The genre that gives liberals the artistic license to say vicious things about conservatives that, if reversed, would be called "hate speech."

ok wtf are you on about

YESSSSSS

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YESSSSSS

― El Tomboto, Friday, September 19, 2008 2:41 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

It took about 50 of these, but I finally laughed at one.

Investigator: Palin probe to end before election

By MATT VOLZ – 2 hours ago

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — The Alaska lawmaker in charge of the abuse of power investigation of Sarah Palin promises the probe will be finished before the election, after all.

Alaska state Sen. Hollis French said Friday the investigator's report on the governor will be completed by Oct. 10, even though key witnesses won't testify.

None of the people ordered to testify Friday showed up. The McCain campaign, Palin and her allies have been working to delay the investigation until after the election. They say it's become a political fight.

Investigators are seeing whether Palin, the Republican vice presidential candidate, improperly fired her public safety commissioner after he wouldn't fire a state trooper who went through a nasty divorce from Palin's sister.

well that's a moronic attitude.

late to this, but I don't think it's moronic to say that, if a candidate doesn't care about the marginalized group within which one lives, or expresses that care in terms of "I'm going to help your enemies a little so they don't hate me," then that candidate isn't particularly worth supporting. I'm voting Obama no matter what. I will probably do some more work for him while I'm home, even. If I were gay, I wouldn't care, though, and I hardly think it's "moronic" for a gay man or woman to conclude that Obama's support will come in terms of verbal niceties only & exclusively; Obama will fund the shit out of people who hate gays while saying nice things about equality. I believe that in his heart he's on the side of good, but it's actions, not beliefs, that count. I know, I know - the realities of politics. But fuck the realities of politics when they actually have an affect on how you get to live your life.

tl;dr, if you're not gay maybe it'd be better not to tell gay men & women what they shouldn't care about.

but I mean, in fairness, I gotta say that according to me anybody who doesn't support gay marriage vocally & publicly is a total fucking asshole & I wish there were a Hell for them to roast in, so I'm not really the most realistic dude on the subject

except that Obama does publicly and vocally support gay marriage and that woman's complaints are a bunch of unfounded horseshit

Calling someone a moron /= they shouldn't care about something.

Does he? I thought he was still pussy-footing around civil unions.

Her complaints are still nonsense either way.

But fuck the realities of politics when they actually have an affect on how you get to live your life.

dude

btw J0hn do you have any evidence for this: "Obama will fund the shit out of people who hate gays while saying nice things about equality" because if you don't then you sound as crazy as the woman who wrote that article.

I can see why a hard-core left culture warrior would think Obama is less than great. He's not a hard-core left culture warrior. That doesn't make him a centrist necessarily, because the axes on which the culture war is presently waged aren't the only ones. Which is to say that Christians are still sorting out how to think about gay marriage. If you're unremittingly hostile to Christianity, then it's likely you won't find Obama's stance sympathetic. But he is not looking to marshall the forces of hate against you, either.

hey dudes check this out
http://yourscene.latimes.com/PHOTOS/LATM/1UserPhotos/369277E.jpg

Does he? I thought he was still pussy-footing around civil unions.

he's said he is cool with it personally and that the best way to achieve equal marriage rights for gays under the law is to let the states pursue civil unions and have the courts fight it out. There is a lengthy argument on some other thread between me and some other folks who had some (to me) fairly insane insistence that the specific word MARRIAGE be applied to gay couples in order to lend their unions culturally legitimate, regardless of whether the law guaranteed them all the same rights as married couples under the term "civil union" (ie, more fun on ILE with semantics). Personally I don't see a more realistic path to legally protecting gay marriage than the one Obama proposes, but I'm sure Morbz or J0hn or someone else here will complain that his stance doesn't go far enough and that he should be proposing a gay marriage constitutional amendment or something.

Aww man, neither "Cledus 'Snowman' Snow" or his trusty sidekick basset "Fred" have their own wiki entries.

er "render their unions" that should be

x-post

anyway my point is to insinuate that Obama is somehow down with homophobia and wants to keep gays in a second-class-citizen sorta arrangement is bullshit.

Obama wants to leave the issue to the states; so does John McCain, except that McCain won't even say the word "gay" aloud for fear of turning into Harvey Fierstein.

I could have SWORN we talked about this on another thread somewhere