Pink Floyd vs. Joy Division

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ilXor Last.fm group weekly chart for the week ending January 25, 2009

No. 1 Animal Collective

No. 2 Kanye West

No. 2 David Bowie

No. 4 Joy Division

No. 5 Radiohead

No. 6 The Beatles

No. 7 Fever Ray

No. 7 The Velvet Underground

No. 9 New Order

No. 10 Cut Copy

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No. 217 Pink Floyd

the maximum value that ZS obtains given its constraint is 8 (Z S), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 03:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

proven by science????

the maximum value that ZS obtains given its constraint is 8 (Z S), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 03:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

How'd I miss this one? Just as well, really, as I don't think I could pick one over the other. Today, though, Joy Division wins.

Alex in NYC, Monday, 3 August 2009 18:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

freakish tie

I love rainbow cookies (surm), Monday, 3 August 2009 18:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

i never believe the poll results on ILM. too many people with multiple accounts.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 3 August 2009 23:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

A tie? Oy vey.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 3 August 2009 23:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

think about it -- there are some striking similarities (besides the fact that they are four of my all-time favorite bands).

Yutte Hermsgervørdenbrøtbørda (Eisbaer), Friday, 21 January 2011 09:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

frankly, the comparison is really incomplete when you exclude New Order. because Floyd was quite a different band post-Syd (though with almost all of the same people), just like New Order was a very different band than New Order. and they BOTH discovered synths AND dance music ("another brick in the wall") AFTER ian/syd.

Yutte Hermsgervørdenbrøtbørda (Eisbaer), Friday, 21 January 2011 09:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Another Brick in the Wall" is not dance music. And that comp title (A Collection of Great Dance Songs) is, whaddya call it, ironical.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Friday, 21 January 2011 10:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

i was really trying to be funny ... but "another brick in the wall" IS set to a disco beat (or as close to one as these plodders could get).

i want to eat unicorn meat (Eisbaer), Friday, 21 January 2011 10:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

Number 57 on the Billboard club play/dance chart in 1980, too. According to Dave Gilmour, "It wasn’t my idea to do disco music, it was Bob’s. He said to me, ‘Go to a couple of clubs and listen to what’s happening with disco music,’ so I forced myself out and listened to loud, four-to-the-bar bass drums and stuff and thought, Gawd, awful! Then we went back and tried to turn one of the [song’s] parts into one to those so it would be catchy."

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Friday, 21 January 2011 10:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Big of Gilmour to admit to being a reactionary tool.

Magic Our Maurice! (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 January 2011 10:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

I like the idea of him sitting in camouflage in the corner of a nightclub taking notes, too.

Magic Our Maurice! (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 January 2011 10:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

Camo was more echo and the bunnymen tho.

Mark G, Friday, 21 January 2011 11:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

not liking disco music != being a reactionary tool xxp

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Friday, 21 January 2011 11:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

The only singer worse than Ian Curtis is the mopey dork from Tindersticks .

thirdalternative, Friday, 21 January 2011 18:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

I like that he was like "this sucks...I'd better write something just like it!"

akm, Friday, 21 January 2011 19:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

Floyd was quite a different band post-Syd

"Post-Syd" encompasses the period from, basically, right after "Piper" hit the streets! He was barely useful during the recording of "Saucerful."

nd they BOTH discovered synths AND dance music ("another brick in the wall") AFTER ian/syd.

Uh, synths weren't really available when Syd was a contributing member of the band, so this is hardly an insight.

you think you're cool, but you read ick (Phil D.), Friday, 21 January 2011 19:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

"run like hell" gots some of the disco beats up in it too. always wanted a full-on dance mix of it tbh.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Friday, 21 January 2011 19:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh anag I like you and enjoy your posts based on knowledge but in all honesty

not liking disco music = being a reactionary tool feels as close to a fact of nature as nature wanders

Magic Our Maurice! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 January 2011 00:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

PS the subtext here is "don't argue u reactionary racist" [better chattin' about stuff u enjoy than the rest of the ingrasable onionverse]

Magic Our Maurice! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 January 2011 00:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

wait are you saying I'm a reactionary racist

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

Dave Gilmour, then anybody who doesn't like disco, then anybody who wandered past when I was drunk.

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

dude I called AbitW & Run Like Hell disco-metal in some other thread and got heaps of scorn dumped on my noggin!

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's not scorn it's fear of rhythm

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

reactionary tools!

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

anyway, if I was calling you racist anagram it was very stupid of me and I'm very sorry. hard for me to decipher my own drunk posts, honestly. stand by my general assertion re. reactionariness of being anti-disco tho.

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

no worries NV, peace

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

Probably the two bands I've spent the most time with in my life, maybe my two favorite bands, which isn't to say that I don't think Pink Floyd put out a lot of terrible stuff. I've always thought parts of Unknown Pleasures had eerie similarities to some of the darker/heavier tracks on The Wall, which for what it's worth, is exactly the kind of Pink Floyd stuff I don't rate too highly. Not sonically similar so much as some of those heavy foreboding minor chords.

In any case, Run Like Hell is definitely disco, and Pink Floyd have never been known for having taste. One of the most interesting things about them to me is just how insular they kept themselves. They say it in interviews, that they really didn't listen to any other bands and I think that helped them create a singular style and some innovate music, but also some dated/cheesy/silly stuff.

dan selzer, Saturday, 5 February 2011 04:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

dude if Syd still had his marbles in '79, he totes wouldve been digging disco...

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 5 February 2011 22:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

He was bigging up Slade in his last interview proper.

Mark G, Monday, 7 February 2011 09:48 (3 years ago) Permalink


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