― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:46 (eighteen years ago) link
passantino, trife, blount, buttez -- the place is chocka with characters. and i hardly know who jaymc is.
― enrique's pseudonym, Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost
― enrique's pseudonym, Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:52 (eighteen years ago) link
Eric, if Gentlemen Prefer Blondes is yr best Hawks so far, maybe Monkey Business. I prefer the wry testosterone fests myself (tho Angie Dickinson is the yeast of Rio Bravo).
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:05 (eighteen years ago) link
Zwan, if you read through to Cheshire's 1999 piece, he dates it all the way back to Jaws in 1975, but even then I think he's late by a decade or more.
This is also OTM re: lateness, though I still am unconvinced even by Cheshire that quite a lot of the "tv values" didn't exist in movies all along (not just mostly forgotten or hope-to-forget stuff, either).
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, I didn't really like Twentieth Century or Monkey Business much. (Only Angels is yet to be viewed and I have high hopes.) I accept the Hawks situation as my loss, as of yet.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― enrique's pseudonym, Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Still too busy trying to snare Vlada Petric in Bright Leaves.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:39 (eighteen years ago) link
it was just a joke, jesus is sad when people really do imitate Dark Shadows.
xpost what the hell are "DVD values" now? I'm going to claim it's "Pop Up Video Values" that are ruining movies and stick with that, see how many people I can convince.
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:40 (eighteen years ago) link
it's plain as day that there is no essence of the apparatus 'cinema' -- it's motion picture technology put to this or that purpose, and even the 90 minute feature form changes, has changed radically, and always has.
― enrique's pseudonym, Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link
x-post re: "DVD values"
― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― enrique, west wing fan, Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link
this literaly landed in my inbox from another list:
"April 13, 2006Re: ScatologyFrom: David Sterritt
Has anyone mentioned "La Grande bouffe," the 1973 Marco Ferreri film? Higher up the artistic scale is Godard's intricate "Numero Deux," which uses conspitation as a central metaphor and signals its multivalent concerns with same right from the title.
David Sterritt, Ph.D. Adjunct Professor of Language, Literature and Culture Maryland Institute College of Art Chairman, National Society of Film Critics Programming Associate, Makor/Steinhardt Center of the 92nd Street Y Special Correspondent, The Christian Science Monitor Professor Emeritus of Theater and Film, Long Island University"
― enrique's pseudonym, Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link
And yeah, the proles are dumber than they've ever been.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:50 (eighteen years ago) link
k. does that mean you'll cite actual examples?
― enrique's flabbergasted pseudonym, Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:51 (eighteen years ago) link
The Sopranos, Sex in the City, Six Feet Under, Queer as Folk...
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link
"every theme and plot point being presented explicitly (thru dialogue or action)"
cos without dialogue or action, you have something like an empty screen.
― enrique, interested, Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Poor, rural, uneducated Depression-era audiences to thread.
― phil d. (Phil D.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link
I work at a video store, and believe me they do. A LOT more than shows that are off the air.
― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost Wow!!
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link
this sounds like the best movie ever!
― sleep (sleep), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― phil d. (Phil D.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link
...
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link
I can't imagine just renting the show for the show itself. Weird.
― phil d. (Phil D.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― mike h. (mike h.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link
Now plz to continue blatantly ignoring everything I say and making snarky comments elsewhere, it silently entertains several people and quite frakly me at this point.
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Dr Morbius (wjwe...), April 13th, 2006.
oh! the pwnage!
how to come back, i just don't know...
― enrique's wounded pride, Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Is it really that weird? The only TV I watch is music videos (or stations I wish were playing music videos), so if I do bother to watch a show, it's through DVD. Admittedly I get to see them for free, but it's a lot more enjoyable than waiting once a week to catch a show with ads. People also get to see another episode immediately on the same disc. I assume it's more popular to watch shows on DVD than on TiVo.
x-post Family Guy is kind of the classic example (Though adult swim helped too)
― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― phil d. (Phil D.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Thursday, 13 April 2006 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link