I am beginning to become scared that Romney/Ryan will win. Can smart people please post here and say reassuring things to convince me that he won't?

I'm going to stfu before i go further in apologist mode, but damn the Republicans are doing a great job campaigning for Obama.

thats not a wholly accurate description of obama financial team fwiw

i mean im not sure how you blame academics for the financial collapse, im sure you could if you tried hard enough, but thats casting a p wide net

always confused w/ who adam bruneau is arguing w/

While politicians may be an unsavory lot on the whole, and while it may be true that any electable person who makes it to the Oval Office is likely to do some odious nonsense, I'm in no way prepared to support the notion that they're all just interchangeable sacks of shit and that it doesn't matter one way or another who you vote for because whoever's in charge is just as bad as the other guy who coulda been in charge, maaaaaan. If Bush II's presidency isn't the clearest sign that one person in particular can do more catastrophic damage in that office than another, I dunno what it could possibly take to convince you.

ftr, i'm not saying it's likely romney will govern the same as obama. i'm just saying that i can imagine a variety of scenarios where it's not significantly different. mind u, this assumes that romney will not feel beholden to his party and will govern differently than he has claimed he will. but that's not impossible being as how romney is an enormous liar. (and didn't govern like a tea partier in MA.)

Ho-lee shit. Was Mordy visited by an angel?

for sure the strangest thing about our conversations on ilx morbz is that despite having argued about political issues like a million times on here you still seem to have no clue about what i believe beyond your conviction that i'm the strawman obama groupie you think everyone on ilx is.

Mainly Geithner, Summers, and Bernanke.

Continuity for the markets.

bernanke has been horrible but he wasnt much of a player as far as ruining things in 08, giether and summers for sure have blood on their hands, tho its not like either of them was out there creating collateralized debt obligations or managing aig or w/e

Summers's role in the deregulation of derivatives contracts

On May 7, 1998, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) issued a Concept Release soliciting input from regulators, academics, and practitioners to determine "how best to maintain adequate regulatory safeguards without impairing the ability of the OTC (Over-the-counter) derivatives market to grow and the ability of U.S. entities to remain competitive in the global financial marketplace." On July 30, 1998, then-Deputy Secretary of the Treasury Summers testified before the U.S. Congress that "the parties to these kinds of contract are largely sophisticated financial institutions that would appear to be eminently capable of protecting themselves from fraud and counterparty insolvencies." Summers, like Greenspan and Rubin who also opposed the concept release, offered no proof that the contracts would not be misused by financial institutions. Instead, Summers stated that "to date there has been no clear evidence of a need for additional regulation of the institutional OTC derivatives market, and we would submit that proponents of such regulation must bear the burden of demonstrating that need." In 1999 Summers endorsed the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act which removed the separation between investment and commercial banks, saying "With this bill, the American financial system takes a major step forward towards the 21st Century."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Summers#Summers.27s_role_in_the_deregulation_of_derivatives_contracts

giether and summers for sure have blood on their hands

romney is dumb, weird part one million http://presspass.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/08/13750865-romney-clinton-helped-elevate-democratic-convention

I don't get this. What's the upside to the Clinton love-fest for the Republicans? Clinton's still ya know alive and currently campaigning for Obama...

they can't help themselves

romney praising a speech in which the guy said he was going to do horrible things to special needs children

It's going to end Medicare as we know it. And a lot of that money is also spent to help people with disabilities, including a lot of middle-class families whose kids have Down's syndrome or autism or other severe conditions.

And, honestly, just think about it. If that happens, I don't know what those families are going to do. So I know what I'm going to do: I'm going to do everything I can to see that it doesn't happen. We can't let it happen. We can't.

lots of elected dems started praising reagan 10-15 years after he left office
think its diminish your opponent by talking about how the other side used to have heavy hitters back in the day, now they have this chump

They also can't really run on "all Dems are bad" when the last really good times the country had were presided over by Clinton. By accepting that he was good, they aren't drawing themselves as complete opposites to someone generally agreed to have been successful, at least for the economy and thus for the average punter.

but he srsly gave props to a speech which basically laid out the case for why he is a horrible person

Yeah that's pretty stupid.

He's basically not very good at executing the ideas.

you still seem to have no clue about what i believe beyond your conviction that i'm the strawman obama groupie you think everyone on ilx is
― Mordy, Saturday, September 8, 2012 4:56 PM (4 hours ago)

Hear, hear. Having been caricatured on here as a gossipy political horserace junkie, even though I seem to pay attention to the same things most everyone else does (and conceding that there's some truth in that, as there is in most caricatures), I know what a drag that can be.

Romney joined Republican Virginia Senate candidate George Allen in serving hotdogs to fans under a tent at the Richmond International Raceway, and hundreds passed through asking for autographs and offering Romney words of support.

Romney struggled to connect with blue-collar fans of NASCAR at the Daytona 500 event in February when he said he had "some friends who are NASCAR team owners."

The comment opened the former private equity executive to criticism that he was out of touch with ordinary voters.

On Saturday, a driving rain delayed the Federated Auto Parts 400 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series race and sent most of the fans running for cover.

When asked who his favorite driver was, Romney responded: "There's a lot of drivers I like."

i think republicans think they're doing some sneaky 'divide and conquer' thing by talking about how much better Clinton clearly is than Obama as if, y'know, Clinton was capable of running again or as if him being on the outs with Obama again would effect anything

Ryan's slash and burn views on Medicare & will scare enough senior citizens to secure a win for Obama in FLA & the possibility of R/R picking up enough other swing states to compensate for that is highly unlikely.

er Medicare & Social Security

Lol at NASCAR anecdote

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/08/sept-8-conventions-may-put-obama-in-front-runners-position/

Mittens has to be sweating at this point. Countdown til some ill-starred "shakeup" of his campaign team/strategy...

fwiw clemenza, i find your horserace junkiedom endearing and only settled on those particular adjectives to describe u bc iirc u used them to describe yourself first

Fair enough. I do have a habit of trying to preempt potential criticsm by levelling it at myself first.

you are canadian after all

and a teacher

Obama up to 80.7% this morning on 538.

haha okay now that seems ridiculous to me

That's his "chance of winning," not his polling, note.

His polling is at 237.8%

I know it's his chance of winning, I just remain semi-skeptical that he's overcoming the kneejerk racist backlash by THAT wide a margin

like, mid-70s I could be more confident in

yeah that is insane

5% racism miscalculation

He's leading Ohio by 5. If he wins there his chance of winning is near 100%.

if obama win ohio or florida its over say good night

it's a tricky thing to calculate, racism

ppl often forget to carry the 2/5

lawl

http://dsdtglobal.com/images/nodding_head_1_.gif

if obama win ohio or florida its over say good night

imagining Madonna joining Obama on stage election night to duet on "Take a Bow."

You've just given me a reason to vote for Romney.

I'd probably wait a couple of days till that last jobs report registers in the polling. Obama definitely seems to be ahead; I still see it more like 65/35, but then I spent most of '08 waiting for the roof to cave in. There's still the debates, still the various September economic reports, and I bet one more unexpected development. Canada severed all diplomatic ties with Iran yesterday, and now Netanyahu has called us "The leaders of the Western World." (Take that, America!) So the we've-fallen-behind-Canada-as-a-world-power issue will obviously loom large.

I honestly think Obama's going to beat Romney like a tied-up goat in the debates.

I doubt debates will change anyone's mind.

Maybe they'll change Romney's mind? Certainly I think they'll hurt Ryan, which will affect Republican future.