Maybe Glenn can run some stats comparing, but I'd assume the Decibel list was closest to ours.
― the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link
rolling autogoon seems to nay say the idea, and given a bit of thought, I don't think it would be worth it this late, after so many lists, and people are warn out on 2008 lists etc.. Next year I will though.
Just check out that ABN record and the Guilty Simpson and you're set, really.
― a hoy hoy, Monday, 26 January 2009 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link
well they still said they would contribute a list, and im sure those who dont post on that thread would contribute too. That's what happened with this poll, a lot of the contributors werent rolling metal thread posters. Some were lurkers who i dont know on ilx. So this kind of email poll does get a decent turn out. 30 was more than I expected. A rap poll would get a lot more i reckon.You should give it a go, it will help get people discovering stuff they wouldnt always know about. As far as I can see only a few of the usual suspects will get in the ilx poll if P&J is anything to go by.I'd say have a go doing a rap poll!
― the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Ok, fuck it. Tomorrow I'll start it up.
― a hoy hoy, Monday, 26 January 2009 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Metal Edge has 29 things that are in our top 100. Decibel and Terrorizer each have 25. Kerrang has 5.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 26 January 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Interesting. Metal Edge has really changed since Phil took over as editor then. (As I said before Metal Edge isn't available in Smiths anymore despite it always having been until a year or so ago).
Not surprised at the lack of Kerrang stuff.
What about the top 50? How many are in that?
― the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Metal Edge has 29 things in common because nearly all the writers for that magazine post here.
― Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Monday, 26 January 2009 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, Phil didn't vote as he said he forgot, I know you write for it but who else? (and don't you all write for Decibel too?) I only know of one Terrorizer writer here (who voted). Does Stevie Chick still write for Kerrang? (not that he voted as far as i'm aware)
― the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Metal Edge, Decibel and Terrorizer each have a 21-allbum overlap with this poll's top 50. Terrorizer overlaps 15 with this poll's top 25, the other two 14.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 26 January 2009 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link
thanks for that Glenn!! Very interesting.Going to give this Cynic album a spin, it's on spotify. Quite handy! If you're on spotify then check out the albums from our poll that are on it(not licensed to usa/canada yet im afraid)
― the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Which ones are on it (if you already know it saves me doing 100 searches)?
― onimo, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I haven't looked. I just remembered Ned, I think it was saying, Cynic were a bit proggy. I'm surprised tho, no death metal at all. It's definitely prog metal with clean singing. Not what I expected at all.
― the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Torche arent on it
― the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Cheers, just found it, I'll give that a quick listen then see what else I can find. I did search for the other day and found a few of the artists but it was mostly older material.
― onimo, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost obv
I'll try make a playlist of what's on it but I dont expect many.
― the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link
It's definitely prog metal with clean singing.
There's some growly and distorted stuff on there as well (on the second track). Allmusic review mentions falsetto as well - may as well get the full set...
― onimo, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I can see this growing on me. Not sure about the futuristic vocal distortions though (when I say futuristic I mean what counted as futuristic in 1982).
― onimo, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link
If there are other Terrorizer writers here they are very much on the downlow. I wouldn't say my tastes in metal are that typical of the other writers and/or what gets covered in the mag, anyhoo
― I'm Throwing Small Arms Around Powys (DJ Mencap), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link
All I could find in the top 50http://open.spotify.com/user/pfunkboy/playlist/1KM6wdlCspiSE4YUk3i454
― the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link
ILXors who write for Metal Edge: me, Ned Raggett, Adrien Begrand, Jeff T., Jonathan Lundeen, Matt Cibula, and Scott Seward did when I first took over but then he kinda faded out. I wish he'd come back.
― unperson, Monday, 26 January 2009 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Thanks for the playlist pfunkboy I'll have a wee listen tomorrow if I get the chance.
― onimo, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link
No problem Onimo. I found the Gojira very boring.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Hey pfunk 100% serious- this time the jokes on me I guess
― gr8080, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Well Grady, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 08:37 (fifteen years ago) link
well i enjoyed the music more than your nerdy poll but still thanks dude <3
― gr8080, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:23 (fifteen years ago) link
for comparison purposes, the rock-a-rolla top 40:
1. Harvey Milk – Life…The Best Game in Town2. Earth – The Bees Made Honey in the Lion’s Skull3. Melvins – Nude with Boots4. Dub Trio – Another Sound is Dying5. Asva – What You Don’t know is Frontier6. Grails – Doomsdayer’s Holiday7. Secret Chiefs 3 – Xaphan: Book of Angel8. Kayo Dot – Blue Lambency Downward9. Mike Patton – A Perfect Place10. Racebanon – Acid or Blood11. Torche – Meanderthal12. Portishead – Third13. The Mars Volta – The Bedlam in Goliath14. Lustmord – [Other]15. Zach Hill – Astrological Straits16. Steve Von Till – A Grave is a Grim Horse17. Ascend – Ample Fire Within18. Akimbo – Jersey Shores19. Conifer – Corown Fire20. Bohren & Der Club of Gore – Dolores21. Meshuggah – Obzen22. Philip Jeck – Sano23. UFOmammut – Idolum24. Wildildlife – Six25. Moha! – One Way Ticket to Candyland26. Helms Alee – Night Terror27. Mogwai – The Hawk is Howling28. Krallice – Krallice29. Jarboe – Mahakali30. Hey Colossus – Happy Birthday31. Merzbow – Anicca32. Gnaw Their Tongues – An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood33. Lucky Dragons – Dream Island Laughing Language34. Jucifer – L’Autrichienne35. Mothlite – The Flax of Reverie36. Boris – Smile37. No Age – Nouns38. Black Sun – Paralyser39. Subtle – Exitingarm40. Prurient – And Still Waiting
― m the g, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:31 (fifteen years ago) link
does anyone else find it interesting that "metalheads" be enjoying Portishead so?
― Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:43 (fifteen years ago) link
It's not surprising. Esp as Geoff runs a doom/psych label.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:44 (fifteen years ago) link
I had to draw the line at nominating them here though. Marnie Stern getting votes annoyed the troo metal nerds enough as it was.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:45 (fifteen years ago) link
third is particularly heavy on the ominous. makes sense to me...
― m the g, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Also lots "metalheads" listen to other stuff than metal.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:53 (fifteen years ago) link
ILX RAP POLL 2008 NOMINATIONS & DISCUSSION THREAD
Plz nominate.
― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Nice one. Cant nominate but I look forward to checking out some stuff!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Krallice sound like Glenn Branca at times!
― Sundar, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link
you should check out the ocrilim album, if you haven't already. branca-ness abounds.
― m the g, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link
i guess i should check out some branca then, b/c i like the ocrilim.
― mte, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link
You should.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 06:30 (fifteen years ago) link
will do. any suggestions where to start?
― mte, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link
autogoons called off the rap poll.
ah well.
ok, so I listened to a couple of records and thought "Hmm.. this is OK. I'll guess I will make it to the end of my week of metal and maybe check out rolling metal once every couple of months instead of never". But now I am listening to the Harvey Milk and really fucking enjoying it. So now I am wondering if the other records were just canon fodder to ease me in, if this is a 1 off or if I may actually really start liking this genre i'd written off forever?
So, what should I listen to next if like the Harvey Milk and Genghis Tron, not so much the Gojira and... umm, I still have no idea what I think of the more droney stuff. Nice in idea but actually a bit boring? Nice background music?
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't like the Gojira disc either; too much breast-beating hardcore punk in the vocals.
the ones i've liked thus far, to one degree or another: theNachtmystium, Esoteric, Amon Amarth and Earth discs.
i didn't like the Torche very much (too remminicent of Helmet for my tastes bone-weary tastes), but i have the feeling you'd probably dig it. also, i found the Harvey Milk disc kinda annoying. go figure. next.
― Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Cheers. I downloaded it the same time I got the others, and I'm sure i'll listen to it before the week ends.
One thing I'm going to do - I'm not going to listen to records with tacky, horrible, 'shock' covers. It's not shocking, it's just a bit lame and just feels me with no desire at all to listen to their records. Is this common with any metal fans and will I be missing out on anything so amazing that I should go against such a statement?
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe too obvious, but if you liked the harvey milk, check out some melvins records. I really like the recent-ish (a) senile animal. two drummers, good times.
and check out the back catalogs! I like special wishes/dead mountain mouth better than the latest harvey milk/genghis tron records.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link
and it depends what you'd consider a "shock" cover. I don't recall anything too tasteless on this list, for example.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link
i think that question would best be directed at the fine folks on the rolling metal thread (Scott Seward in particular; i'm pretty sure he's the kind of fellow who appreciates the truly tasteless cover art of some extreme metal discs).
xxp
― Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Ha, I just skimmed the thread and... didn't this used to have more albums on it? I dunno, covers with really limp "oh, look at all this blood/guts/crap like that, we are soooo shocking" bullshit. It just seems like such a shitty schtick to have, especially considering most people have grown accustomed to such a high tolerance of gore and what not.
Cheers on the recommendations though.
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link
(I mean, I understand, and hell, maybe even appreciate the proper death metal "hey, this is our guitarist's actual brains all over the floor" covers the same way I love the geto boys cover where bushwick bill has just been shot - but most of it is just a bit silly and totally puts me off wanting to listen to their music.)
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link
it's a new thread (2009 edition). so there's really not that much to discuss/post jpg's of just yet. good for getting in on the ground floor, tho.
― Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link
again i say cheers. i have bookmarked that bitch for the future.
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link
next up - rolling country.
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link