1980'S ROCK POLL ALBUMS/TRACKS VOTING THREAD. (Voting closes September 20) (all welcome to vote inc Lurkers)

Will my fellow Dü fans get out in numbers?

Oh yeah and Daydream Nation and Double Nickels will be 1 & 2. Then the other 2.
The Fall fans might show up too.

Tracks I have no fucking idea

like so many albums of the early CD era, it's way too long, but the best tracks are fucking great

I like how "Alcohol" still ends up sounding like LSD.

I dragged my feet getting around to listening to the Butthole Surfers. I was just annoyed by the name and graphics at the time (not sure why I singled them out in particular since there were plenty of other bands I listened to with a similar image). Even when I heard tracks I liked, I didn't follow up; and then even after I saw them live and liked it (probably around 90/91), I still took my time. Then I listened to them a whole bunch in 92-93/4. (In some ways that's the point where I definitively cut down on listening to rock of any sort (not out of principle, just disinterest), so until pretty recently--mid-last-decade--they were the last rock band I got into in a big way.)

I don't think they get enough credit nowadays. When i got into music in the early 90s them and Husker Du and The Replacements were godlike.

Which probably meansthe poll will be a mix of bands who were important to people at the time and then bands who have survived/joined the 'canon' for young people to discover.

I never liked/got Husker Du except for their Eight Miles High (which is one of my favorite things ever) and their cover of "Ticket to Ride." I must not have known anyone into the Replacements, because I hardly remember hearing about them much at the time (while, on the other hand, knowing someone who had everything by Husker Du and Sonic Youth, and some others), though I like exactly one of their songs. So much of my listening was dictated by terrestrial radio at that point, so it could be hit and miss. (Maybe I was just always out of the room when certain bands were announced?)

Eight Miles High

Which WKDU in Philadelphia used to play every fifteen minutes, at that time.

I asked earlier about How about the Coil/Current 93/Nurse With Wound/Death In June/Young Gods/Swans/Foetus/Einsturzende Neubauten albums.

They were nominated by some so where's the discussion on them?
Do they not feel ROCK enough to you guys?

I guess Swans have been discussed. I'll rep for Young Gods any day of the week. They were my 1st ever gig (with Laika supporting)

nominations from the alleged non-rock division of the poll:

http://open.spotify.com/user/1234500846/playlist/1AzmE0WHNhtp78LpnPn3gQ

tracklist:

1) 8 Eyed Spy - Lazy in Love
2) Bad Brains - Don’t Need It
3) Band of Susans - Hope Against Hope
4) Band of Susans - No God
5) Bauhaus - Dark Entries
6) Birthday Party - Swampland
7) Bitch Magnet - Knucklehead
8) Black Flag - I’ve Got to Run
9) Black Flag - In My Head
10) Black Flag - My War
11) Black Flag - Out of This World
12) Black Flag - What I See
13) Cows - Sugar
14) Crash Course in Science - Cardboard Lamb
15) Crash Course in Science - Factory Forehead
16) Dead Kennedys - Holiday in Cambodia
17) Die Kreuzen - Man in the Trees
18) Einsturzende Neubauten - Tanz Debil
19) Feedtime - If You Can’t
20) Feedtime - More than Love
21) Feedtime - Pulling a Line
22) Feedtime - Rock ‘n Roll
23) Flipper - Ever
24) Glenn Branca - Lesson No. 1
25) Glenn Branca - Structure
26) Godflesh - Avalanche Master Song
27) Godflesh - Streetcleaner
28) Gore - Last Steps
29) Helmet - Rumble
30) Honor Role - Lives of the Saints #135 (Naked Wife)
31) Killing Joke - The Wait
32) Laughing Hyenas - Gabriel
33) Meat Puppets - In a Car
34) Minor Threat - Filler
35) Minor Threat - I Don’t Want to Hear It
36) Minor Threat - Seeing Red
37) Minutemen - Boy Dylan Wrote Propaganda Songs
38) Misfits - Earth A.D.
39) Misfits - She
40) Morbid Angel - Maze of Torment
41) Naked Raygun - I Don’t Know
42) Public Image Ltd. - Banging the Door
43) Public Image Ltd. - Flowers of Romance
44) Scraping Foetus off the Wheel - Clothes Hoist
45) Scraping Foetus off the Wheel - Pigswill
46) Scratch Acid - She Said
47) Slayer - Behind the Crooked Cross
48) Sonic Youth - Brother James
49) Sonic Youth - Death to Our Friends
50) Sonic Youth - Flower
51) Sonic Youth - Inhuman
52) SPK - Slogun
53) Suicidal Tendencies - Possessed
54) Swans - Half Life
55) Swans - Right Wrong
56) Swans - Thank You
57) The Flesh Eaters - Divine Horsemen (live)
58) Virgin Prunes - Come to Daddy
59) White Zombie - Ratmouth
60) X - The Hungry Wolf
61) Young Gods - Pas Mal
62) Zeni Geva - Blackout
63) Zeni Geva - War Pig

/shameless campaigning (the last time I'll post this, I promise)

Will be interesting to see what Meat Puppets album comes out on top.
Same with Big Black.

Janes Addiction could do well. No vote splitting to worry about.

(Of course I immediately jumped to stuff like this which was not particularly far from rock (and obviously partly influenced by it), really, though more rhythmically mind-blowing to me.)

What age are you?

Soon to be 47. :(

I listened to "Silver Rocket" and "100%" on headphones this morning. Right away, the drums and vocals sound clearer and crisper on "100%". Generally, higher frequency response seems better. Also, the individual parts are more clearly separated and spatialized.

I wonder if there's a mastering problem with the currently in-print versions of DN. The snare drum is really distorted.

Anyway, as I mentioned, Goo was done in part at the same studio with the same producer and I think parts of that are where they really nail that sound. Dirty has a wider frequency range, but the high frequency response sounds hyper-real to me - like if I heard those guitars in a room, they wouldn't sound like that. I'd be curious to know what the comparison is between the mid-range output on Goo and Dirty.

Will my fellow Dü fans get out in numbers?

ime Husker Du wins or dominates pretty much any ilx poll it's an option in. which has always bewildered me since growing up they seemed like the least interesting of the big SST bands (as well as the least popular among my friends)

I dunno, Double Nickels always beats them. It wins every poll it's in.

I wonder if there's a mastering problem with the currently in-print versions of DN. The snare drum is really distorted.

Maybe this is it! I especially noticed this on the drums. I've never heard the original vinyl.

well i didn't say HD will have the #1 album or song. but they'll prob have a shitload of high placements in both, definitely more than the Minutemen.

Listening more, I think Goo might even go too far. A track "Disappearer" feels at first like it has a nice amount of high-end output, but I end up thinking that the comfortable range of Daydream Nation is being stretched.

I keep thinking of the third Velvet Underground album. No one's going to wish for more high end on that - there's plenty. And yet, there's something really comfortable about the whole range of sound.

I only have DN on original vinyl. Not heard the remastered cd.

I keep thinking of the third Velvet Underground album. No one's going to wish for more high end on that - there's plenty. And yet, there's something really comfortable about the whole range of sound.

I agree that this album sounds great, better than either Daydream Nation or Goo.

(at least the CD of Daydream Nation)

the old cd or remaster?

The Geffen CD release, not the Blast First CD or the 2007 deluxe edition. It's the only one I've ever known.

Is the deluxe 2cd edition worth picking up?

Or indeed any of the reissues?

And does anyone want to talk about How about the Coil/Current 93/Nurse With Wound/Death In June/Young Gods/Swans/Foetus/Einsturzende Neubauten albums?

BTW I'm going to be doing the roll-out for the tracks results, so if I could be kept in the loop on whats going on in that dept. It would be very nice so I can get my a/v "materials" together as soon as clear trends develop.

Also, quick question -- would people rather have me post a youtube embed w/ the results or a link?

Its spotify links ,youtube links are fine in addition but no embeds

As far as I could tell when I was voting, only Current 93 got shortchanged in the album nominations dept. and that was probably my fault.

I'm kind of lollin' at the idea that basically every album Einsturzende Neubauten cut in the 80s was nominated... looking at the list it was kind of like: so this is what people love from the 80s... Blag Flag, Minor Threat, Husker Du, Sonic Youth and... Einsturzende Neubauten!!!

yeah but will they get votes? theres always one band gets loads of noms but only 1 vote

thanks viceroy btw thats a weight off my mind. Its a lot of work doing the rollouts with spotify/youtube links. Im not sure i coulda handled both rollouts

Well I doubt EN or DIJ will place, I don't know about the rest but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't show up and the only industrial in the results is Killing Joke and Ministry.

(you are very welcome, this hopefully will be fun and not that stressful!)

NIN will show up.

top 10 maybe

I forgot about that pretty little hate machine...

There's just some albums that wont get much chat but everyone knows will place very high.

seandalai how many ballots do we have?

I must remind everyone that if you voted for N.W.A. the vote will not be counted for them.

lol keep layin down the law tough guy

All NWA votes should actually be counted towards Warrant's final total.

haha that would really please the voters

first poll i've ever felt compelled to vote in. sheer torture narrowing it down to 50.

All NWA votes should actually be counted towards Warren G's final total.

stirmonster i feel your pain

It'll be tricky trying to rank the relative merits of Blind Idiot God and Journey.

how did you manage?

I don't know. I haven't done it yet!