We Become Panoramic - THE KATE BUSH RESULTS THREAD (ilm artist poll #24)

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if this poll happened a week ago i would've been mondo annoyed at running's placement. it always left me cold. but i happened to hear it on the radio while driving last night and i was like 'damn this owns doesnt it' so i guess it finally clicked. still think wuthering not being #1 is mild challops (i might've voted for gaffa tho)

Hungry4Ass, Friday, 31 August 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

Very belated thanks to IK for running this and for the beautiful rollout.

My ballot:
Tracks
01 The Sensual World
02 The Dreaming
03 Rocket's Tail
04 The Man with the Child in His Eyes
05 Sat in Your Lap
06 King of the Mountain
07 Army Dreamers
08 Leave It Open
09 The Infant Kiss
10 The Red Shoes
11 Get Out of My House
12 All the Love
13 Moments of Pleasure
14 Delius (Song of Summer)
15 Suspended in Gaffa
16 Nocturn
17 Deeper Understanding
18 Houdini
19 Them Heavy People (On Stage EP version)
20 Ken

Albums
01 The Dreaming
02 Aerial
03 The Sensual World

Jeff W, Monday, 3 September 2012 12:50 (eleven years ago) link

Many thanks to Ismael forSam great poll. A bit late to followup, but...

*5. Wuthering Heights
617 points, twenty-two votes, three no.1s
The Kick Inside (1978) (two votes for The Whole Story (1986))
debut performance*


In addition to the point above that it being #5 is a bit of a LOL, I did want to return to a point I made in the noms thread. While I respect folks who prefer the first version they heard of this, and myself generally can't be bothered with remakes no matter how "technically" or even "musically" superior they are, in the case of the 1986 New Vocal version, it's not even close.

On the original, the way she phrases "It's me/Cathy, I've come home" leaves her running out of breath by the time she reaches "I'm" (it's already an odd phrasing, putting the "I'm" in the line with "home" instead of "So cold" but the clipped way she sings it makes it even odder). But on the remake, her superior breath control allows her to extend the "ee's" of "me" and "Cathy" so that she can go straight into a hugely powerful "Co-o-o-ollld." That in turn allows her to use the line "Let me in-a-your window" as the climax of the chorus instead of the kind of tag it serves as in the original.

Not altogether unlike Sinatra ca. the Capitol recordings, the skill of her singing by this time was at its absolute peak. And on this, it allows her to fundamentally transform not just the feel of one of her best-known songs into something even more powerful and natural -- but the melody itself. It's amazing.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 3 September 2012 13:06 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, but a) the original sounds like a crazy person singing alien music whereas in '86 it just sounds like Kate Bush, b) there's a MIDIVerb or something on the '86 version that makes it sound as if she's singing in a bathroom instead of on a wild and windy moor, c) one needs to hear how untamed her voice was on those early singles to really appreciate the subsequent "soft focus" approach to her singing on "Lionheart" moving into the high drama of "Never For Ever".

nedless summer (Ówen P.), Monday, 3 September 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

I'm 100% in favour of remixing and revising and think more people should do it. Even when it creates crap, which it does, like 90% of the time, having a polished-up crap version only sharpens the ingenuity of the original

nedless summer (Ówen P.), Monday, 3 September 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

(Not calling '86 "Kick Inside" vocal takes crap, mind)

nedless summer (Ówen P.), Monday, 3 September 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

four years pass...

I love her. My revised list of her best.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 March 2017 01:57 (seven years ago) link

Great list, A+

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Thursday, 23 March 2017 02:10 (seven years ago) link

Yep, excellent list, Alfred.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 25 March 2017 12:50 (seven years ago) link

alfred you don't own the Kick Inside or Lionheart???

akm, Sunday, 26 March 2017 01:38 (seven years ago) link

I own TKI but not Lionheart, don't relish playing the former except as exceptional demos

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 March 2017 01:42 (seven years ago) link

Lionheart is worth picking up for a few choice songs (Kashka, coffee homeground, the title track).

akm, Sunday, 26 March 2017 03:00 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

The Kick Inside is awesome.

Her catalog is awesome.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 02:50 (five years ago) link

I like the love you showed for Aerial, but I don't think I will ever understand the gushing that the Dreaming receives. It's a weird dynamic; most casual fans don't rate it at all, but of the more serious fans that do rate it, the overwhelming majority seem to overrate the ever-loving hell out of it. It's a pretty good album, but considering the next two records she released after it, it's very mediocre in comparison.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 03:12 (five years ago) link

A Sky of Honey is the greatest thing ever

ufo, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 03:56 (five years ago) link

Trying to imagine a world in which The Dreaming sounds mediocre compared to The Sensual World.

Tim F, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 04:43 (five years ago) link

It's not a terribly sensual one, to be honest.

Tim F, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 04:43 (five years ago) link

Given how much of a favourite it is of Kate's, having been picked for the live shows, it's surprising how badly Lily did.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 08:12 (five years ago) link

didn't rank '50 Words for Snow'?

Nourry, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 09:31 (five years ago) link

Trying to imagine a world in which The Dreaming sounds mediocre compared to The Sensual World.

― Tim F, Tuesday, September 11, 2018 12:43 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm with you. Or any record of hers after HoL for that matter.

An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 12:38 (five years ago) link

A Sky of Honey is the greatest thing ever

― ufo, Monday, September 10, 2018 8:56 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 12:39 (five years ago) link

i won't hear any sensual world slander, idk how anyone can not get immediately enveloped in it, the way its textures sprout up & spread out like a landscape in the fog

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 12:47 (five years ago) link

to use the ready-made image lol

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 12:50 (five years ago) link

I like the love you showed for Aerial, but I don't think I will ever understand the gushing that the Dreaming receives. It's a weird dynamic; most casual fans don't rate it at all, but of the more serious fans that do rate it, the overwhelming majority seem to overrate the ever-loving hell out of it. It's a pretty good album, but considering the next two records she released after it, it's very mediocre in comparison.

― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, September 10, 2018 11:12 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this, except for Hounds of Love

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 14:56 (five years ago) link

tbh same

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 14:58 (five years ago) link

A Sky of Honey is the greatest thing ever

― ufo, Monday, September 10, 2018 8:56 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, September 11, 2018 1:39 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

Nourry, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link

I think The Sensual World is great but The Dreaming is monumental.

Tim F, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link


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